Bethesda: Skyrim DLCs "Closer to Expansion Packs"

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Frostbite3789 said:
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If we take them at their word, it's kind of surprising to me they decided to go this route. And yet, not caring about this at all. Skyrim itself is anything but quality over quantity.
Consider the DLC for Oblivion and Morrowind, Tribunal and Bloodmoon were very large, and Shivering Isles remains the best dlc available for any game I've played. This isn't out of turn.

They better include some horse armour for old times' sake.
Why do people insist on calling Shivering Isles DLC?

It saw saw disc-based releases. It costed about $30. Which is the standard price for an expansion pack. Shivering Isles wasn't some DLC revelation, it was an x-pack. An x-pack that was on par in terms of content and price with every other xpack that has been released.
It was content, you bought it with M$ points, then downloaded it.
 

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Baneat said:
Frostbite3789 said:
Baneat said:
Hammeroj said:
If we take them at their word, it's kind of surprising to me they decided to go this route. And yet, not caring about this at all. Skyrim itself is anything but quality over quantity.
Consider the DLC for Oblivion and Morrowind, Tribunal and Bloodmoon were very large, and Shivering Isles remains the best dlc available for any game I've played. This isn't out of turn.

They better include some horse armour for old times' sake.
Why do people insist on calling Shivering Isles DLC?

It saw saw disc-based releases. It costed about $30. Which is the standard price for an expansion pack. Shivering Isles wasn't some DLC revelation, it was an x-pack. An x-pack that was on par in terms of content and price with every other xpack that has been released.
It was content, you bought it with M$ points, then downloaded it.
I mean, on the very box [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shiveringislesbox.jpg] for it, it calls itself an xpack. So yeah...I think I win.
 

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Frostbite3789 said:
Baneat said:
Frostbite3789 said:
Baneat said:
Hammeroj said:
If we take them at their word, it's kind of surprising to me they decided to go this route. And yet, not caring about this at all. Skyrim itself is anything but quality over quantity.
Consider the DLC for Oblivion and Morrowind, Tribunal and Bloodmoon were very large, and Shivering Isles remains the best dlc available for any game I've played. This isn't out of turn.

They better include some horse armour for old times' sake.
Why do people insist on calling Shivering Isles DLC?

It saw saw disc-based releases. It costed about $30. Which is the standard price for an expansion pack. Shivering Isles wasn't some DLC revelation, it was an x-pack. An x-pack that was on par in terms of content and price with every other xpack that has been released.
It was content, you bought it with M$ points, then downloaded it.
I mean, on the very box [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Shiveringislesbox.jpg] for it, it calls itself an xpack. So yeah...I think I win.
Why can't DLC be an expansion pack? It's a pretty broad term.
 

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I don't think Skyrim needs any DLC or "expansions" anyways. The game is huge and immersive, and the mods (now put in plain sight on Steam) act to add those little touches like interface changes.

Then again, a couple of expansions every year would work to remind people about Skyrim. I like to go back to old games every once in a while, like a yearly playthrough of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.
 

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I just hope that whatever they come out with, it'll be able to hold my attention. Level 45 is fun and all, but I still have absolutely no desire to finish the main quest, and trudging through caves can only stay interesting for the first fifty or so.
 

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Boy, PS3 really gets screwed with Skyrim. Took until now to sort out the shitty framerate issues, and then Xbox gets exclusive DLC/Expansions first! Pc users of course have the modding community and are already playing with DLC ;)
 

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Xbox exclusive. Because god forbid that Microsoft has to win users by, you know, designing a console that people actually want to use more than their PC or PS3. That's only, oh, I don't know, the theoretical foundation of our entire economy.

But instead of actually making something better - with mod support, for a start - companies just edge the consumer into paying the price while they try to pull exclusivity left right and centre. It's just like the arguments against DRM, except there isn't even the piracy excuse here. It's unhealthy and anti-competitive. But why bother to compete when you can just try to screw over the other guy's customers as much as possible? Looking at you too, Origin.

Hmmm... Imad. :D
 

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I actually kind of hope, if they go big on this project, that they actually expand to a few of the other countries in Tamriel. Like the Black Marsh, and revisiting Morrowind. If they can be classified as expansions it wouldn't be too hard to imagine something that grand of a scale. I mean if they are comparing their last batch of DLCs for games like Fallout, then it will hopefully be massive.
 

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Woodsey said:
Make expansion packs, and call them expansion packs. It still irks me that people refer to The Shivering Isles as DLC.
If I download it, and it adds content, is that not DLC? Your splitting hairs, not all DLC is fap pack A and Lazy skin pack B, even though it still quantifies as DLC.

Anyway, I'm just nitpicking.

OP: I hope some of that GameJam shit get's added FOR FREE. Some new effects and functions would be nice and could hold us over until the DLC releases (or GoTY editions).
 

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I want an alternate start DLC that lets me start as a Thalmor spy, and let's me play the game from their point of view. There will probably end up being a mod for that anyway, but unlike most modders, Bethesda can add in voice acting to make the experience a bit more seamless.
 

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Here's to hoping for more dragons. One's that are actually terrifying like three dragons working together to make Dragonborn BBQ.
 

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Holy shit
Back in my day expansion pack meant more than adding some more content to your Sims lives.
If Bethesda follow through with this then it looks like they move up in my esteem charts from monarch to full fledged gods.
But if they fuck us off with something like Knights of the Nine? God help us.
Anything less than Shivering Isle, would be criminal.
 

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Ragsnstitches said:
Woodsey said:
Make expansion packs, and call them expansion packs. It still irks me that people refer to The Shivering Isles as DLC.
If I download it, and it adds content, is that not DLC? Your splitting hairs, not all DLC is fap pack A and Lazy skin pack B, even though it still quantifies as DLC.

Anyway, I'm just nitpicking.
DLC already implies something bitesized (or a "fucking rip-off", as I like to call it), so expansion packs should be distinguished.

There's no point strictly adhering to the literal phrase if there's a distinction worth making. Skyrim itself is content that I have downloaded, that doesn't make it DLC.
 

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Still need to buy this game, but this news pleases me. Not only will Steam have mod support for fan made DLC, but Bethesda will keep running the game long after release. I love it.

Wolfram01 said:
Boy, PS3 really gets screwed with Skyrim. Took until now to sort out the shitty framerate issues, and then Xbox gets exclusive DLC/Expansions first! Pc users of course have the modding community and are already playing with DLC ;)
Xbox did pay Bethesda to release any and all DLC on their platform first, and PC users always get mods. Bad luck old chum.
 

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Woodsey said:
Ragsnstitches said:
Woodsey said:
Make expansion packs, and call them expansion packs. It still irks me that people refer to The Shivering Isles as DLC.
If I download it, and it adds content, is that not DLC? Your splitting hairs, not all DLC is fap pack A and Lazy skin pack B, even though it still quantifies as DLC.

Anyway, I'm just nitpicking.
DLC already implies something bitesized (or a "fucking rip-off", as I like to call it), so expansion packs should be distinguished.

There's no point strictly adhering to the literal phrase if there's a distinction worth making. Skyrim itself is content that I have downloaded, that doesn't make it DLC.
If you've decided to define DLC this way, then you've sort of defined the terms that let you be right on your own. Pretty much; DLC is only dlc if it's small (I'm going to induce here: bad or poor value based on the content of the full game/price)

That's pulled from nowhere. If bethesda plans to include dlc that are as large as expansions and call it dlc, why are they wrong? I define dlc as additional game content that you can recieve online that extends the game. I don't really think a high-res texture pack should count, nor do I really think that skins or horse armour should count either. But I'm making a case here, dlc is whatever we've decided it to mean in our own heads.
 

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Baneat said:
Woodsey said:
Ragsnstitches said:
Woodsey said:
Make expansion packs, and call them expansion packs. It still irks me that people refer to The Shivering Isles as DLC.
If I download it, and it adds content, is that not DLC? Your splitting hairs, not all DLC is fap pack A and Lazy skin pack B, even though it still quantifies as DLC.

Anyway, I'm just nitpicking.
DLC already implies something bitesized (or a "fucking rip-off", as I like to call it), so expansion packs should be distinguished.

There's no point strictly adhering to the literal phrase if there's a distinction worth making. Skyrim itself is content that I have downloaded, that doesn't make it DLC.
If you've decided to define DLC this way, then you've sort of defined the terms that let you be right on your own. Pretty much; DLC is only dlc if it's small (I'm going to induce here: bad or poor value based on the content of the full game/price)

That's pulled from nowhere. If bethesda plans to include dlc that are as large as expansions and call it dlc, why are they wrong? I define dlc as additional game content that you can recieve online that extends the game. I don't really think a high-res texture pack should count, nor do I really think that skins or horse armour should count either. But I'm making a case here, dlc is whatever we've decided it to mean in our own heads.
I've characterised it as being noticeably smaller than expansion packs because I believe that's what most people would think of it as.

What springs forth in your mind when someone says "DLC": an additional 25-30 hours of content, or 2-3 hours (or less)?
 

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Woodsey said:
What springs forth in your mind when someone says "DLC": an additional 25-30 hours of content, or 2-3 hours (or less)?
Did they say what game it was for?
 

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Mezmer said:
I just hope they do at least two REAL expansion packs this time. I'm sorry, Knights of the Nine was not, and never will be an expansion. It was shit.
They've already stated months ago that they will take Oblivion as an example on how not to do it.