Bethesda VP: Developing For PC is a "Headache"
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Xbox 360 and PS3 pirated version of Skyrim were leaked about 6 days ago or so. There has yet to be a pirated version for the PC.Irridium said:
The entire idea that it is harder to pirate on consoles is like comparing lifting a feather and a dime. You have to pirate in different ways but it is relatively easy regardless of the platform.
Killzone 3 was leaked on PS3, and I believe that Bulletstorm leaked off the 360 a few days before the PC version.Waaghpowa said:
And you would be surprised how many people have bricked their systems trying to install new hardware because they didn't know the difference between a PCI-E and PCI slot...Waaghpowa said:
Working for DELL I once had a call where a customer bought new RAM for his laptop, found it was just a bit too big for the slot so he busted out a dremel and shaved it down to fit...
As easy as it is for people who know what their doing, I don't recommend uneducated users upgrading their hardware without a professional present to teach them how to do it correctly. Yes it is like building with LEGOs and yes most hardware only fits in certain slots but ignorance + upgrading = brick.
yeah if you want to play games online, offline it's free game and I could do it if I really wanted to.Kopikatsu said:
On subject.. Really just really?? They where making pc games far before console games don't blame bad programming on this. If amateur modders for fallout 3, oblivion can make patches and far better mods for the game than the creators then you know something is wrong.
For most developers I can see how the statement "developing for the PC is a pain in the ass" would be accurate. I think the piracy issue is a bit overblown in the minds of the publishers but yeah it's a problem and trying to psychically intuit what drivers the player has installed is probably a pain.
That said this seems weird coming from Bethesda. I mean their entire business model on the PC seems to be: release decent game and let the modders make it a really good game. Profit! Bethesda owes so much to the modding community that can only exist on PC that it seems weird to release this statement that seem to imply that there are only drawbacks to releasing games on a PC.
That said this seems weird coming from Bethesda. I mean their entire business model on the PC seems to be: release decent game and let the modders make it a really good game. Profit! Bethesda owes so much to the modding community that can only exist on PC that it seems weird to release this statement that seem to imply that there are only drawbacks to releasing games on a PC.
1. piracy is irrelevant. I know it makes executives panties all bunchy imagining a pile of money and imagining it would have been in their money pit but now it isn't. The reality is that people who pirate will do without rather than pay, the company isn't going to get their money. This dude has the right idea, focus on pleasing your customers, the ones you identify themselves by giving you money. And just maybe the occasional pirate will say "you know, they do a really good job making their customers happy, I think I would like to join that club"
2. there is no excuse for Rage, that was a failure by the QA department
3. since Morrowind every single Bethesda game has had a crap interface on the PC that had to be fixed by the community through mods, so yes the developers make the game run but the community are the ones who make it playable
2. there is no excuse for Rage, that was a failure by the QA department
3. since Morrowind every single Bethesda game has had a crap interface on the PC that had to be fixed by the community through mods, so yes the developers make the game run but the community are the ones who make it playable
That is just retarded. With the RAM situation like you presented, the different types of RAM are deliberately given different sized sockets to avoid people mis matching them. But on occasion you get someone too stupid to realize "Hmm, maybe it DOESN'T fit". But as far as the video card goes, as long as he has a PCIe slot, there shouldn't be that much issue as they're all generally the same.amaranth_dru said:
I think that's also a pathetic reason to say it's a headache though. Think of all the times when console gamers try to say "look how buggy this game is on the PS3, but Xbox is perfect", or vice versa. Are we catering to idiots saying stupid things on the internet, or are we catering to gamers who play the games?Jedihunter4 said:
PC piracy is a major headache? Fair enough, but didn't GeoHotz crack the PS3, with this very site providing coverage of the ensuing court battle? To my knowledge, I think the XBox also can be hacked. The DS has a major problem with hacking. It's not really that valid an argument if hackers can pirate on any platform.Andy Chalk said:
And for the SDK, we thank you, it's why we love you and it's why your games stand the test of time.
Actually, the console argument is very common, and happened in a huge way with Battlefield 3 to the point where the developer went "actually, we released screenshots from the wrong version for PS3, and here's the RIGHT version" just to make people think that PS3 wasn't getting shafted on the graphics.Jedihunter4 said:
Yeah, I had to tell the RAM guy he had voided his 5 year warranty by doing what he did and he was pissed off to no end. I felt no sympathy for him however and had to mute the call a number of times because I couldn't help but laugh at the situation.Waaghpowa said:
The whole PCI/PCI-E thing is just another of those situations I ran across working for DELL. I've been a system tech for about 20 years and it never ceases to amaze me the stupid things people do to their PC's when most of what they tried to do is easier than plugging in a blender. Technological ignorance is amazing... I even had a guy call about his power supply crapping out and I told him to leave it alone, that we were going to send a new one to him in 2 days but he insisted since he was a "master electrician" he could fix it himself and despite warning him repeatedly that opening a power supply is not just stupid but dangerous as hell he went ahead and did it anyway resulting in a major shock and a hospital visit. He tried to sue DELL later on for "not warning" him of the danger of messing with your PSU but since we record all our calls he had no case. Stupid stupid people.
All in all, upgrading computers is easy as hell but for some reason the statistics of "simple procedures" being beyond the lay-person is staggering.
I don't recall Skyrim being leaked, though it was released early in other countries like the Netherlands on Tuesday (which is when games are normally released). There were, however, reports of some MW3 copies being stolen before the release date.Irridium said: