And even that's dwarfed by the half a million Americans he helped kill through his shitacular Covid response.
Biden DOJ Has Begun RAIDING Opposition Journalists, Accused Of Leaking Project Veritas Legal Memos
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Oh, man. I hope you dont find out about Vietman. Or Korea. Or Haiti. Multiple times. Or Cuba. Or the School of the Americas. Or the alliance invasion of Russia a hundred years ago today. Remember when they lied to get the US into Gulf War 1? Or lying to getting the US into WW1?
If there is a war or a coup, just know that the US government is using the media to start some shit. It's been happening since at least the Boston Tea Party. Don't get into wars, because 99% of the time, it's just the government tricking you into it. Just thank Christ that today the US government doesn't have the same hold on the media like they did in the 60s where they good get away with assassinations
It also makes you wonder about media reports on things like Uyghurs being put into detention camps. Maybe its just the US media making crap up for the US government. Or whatever is happening in Syria right now. Sudan. Haiti
So, they're (p.v) implicated in illegal activity? So seems kind of normal fbi behaviour then.
Also no evidence of 'opposition journalists' being raided ala the OP claim, just FBI following evidence of criminal activity. Fuck Project Veritas, I hope they get locked up and destroyed.
And maybe covid is a hoax , and vaccines are really population control, and climate change is just a new taxation scam.
What are you talking about? More people have died under Biden's watch from covid than Trump and Biden has had vaccines available his whole presidency. There just isn't much to do against covid once you let it in the country as widespread as it was when action was finally taken. Fauci was on NYC news on February 29th 2020 telling New Yorkers that everything is fine and you can go about your lives as normal all while the virus was spreading extremely quickly. The best play was to shut all travel to the US in January but no president (D or R) would've done that and the US is just too open to have locked all travel down before the virus got in realistically. When the top virus expert, Fauci, is saying everything is perfectly fine as late as February 29th, you think Hilary (if she won) would've done anything earlier than Trump?
21 million cases up to end of 2020 under Trump. About 27 million more so far under Biden. 350 000 deaths under Trump, about 430 000 under Biden to date.
So yeah, that's more, but given the death to case ratio it's not a massive difference. Trump absolutely bears responsibility for letting it gaining hold in the first place. And the majority of deaths are the stubbornly unvaccinated.
There's like 2 remote islands in the world where it never gained much of a hold. 3 if you count the one that has never had contact with civilisation and is literally illegal to go to. I don't think the USA really stood much of a chance of stopping it getting in.
True, but proper preparation, planning and precautions would have helped diminish the escalation. Ending the pandemic preparation program, or doing stuff like this...
Four ways Trump has meddled in pandemic science
How the US president and his administration have silenced scientists and meddled in their reports, with disastrous consequences.
www.nature.com
Thank you, I think this is closer to my point about media. When Alex Jones gets it wrong, I'd think that 1000 times less material than if Walter Kronkite does (and did).
Write what you will about, say, Jimmy Dore (and have done so) while the legacy media was going off about Syria, claiming Assad had killed another 60 people with poison gas just as the US was wrapping up and leaving, he was saying 1) Even if true, do you go to war and kill a million foreigners because of it and 2) it did not appear (and I don't think it was) true while my recollection is that virtually the entire legacy media was pushing the narrative and not calling out those that claimed a previous Assad poison gas attack that was later shown to be likely untrue.
As for Trump, he was the 1st POTUS in a long time to not start a new war. He did do more bombing in existing wars. Was that just to help the industrial complex? Did he just drop more bombs but kill fewer people than Obama? I do not know.
I sadly do agree he was not anti-war but "conditionally" anti war in a way I don't support (if we took Iraq, we should have made it profitable by taking their oil sort of thing.) I'd write, don't get into forever wars that have nothing to do with us to begin with.
To be fair though, Facebook, Fox News, OAN, and Newsmax probably helped out a lot on that front, too.
This claim is an infamous piece of misinformation. For the first like 90% of Obama's presidency, drone strikes related to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were just not reported publicly at all. The accountability rules were changed shortly before Obama left office, so the total attributed to Obama is dramatically less than reality.
That being said, I see little reason to believe either had much direct impact on the rate of drone strikes, and just deferred to the military on their usage.
Trump dropped those rules basically as soon as he came into office, we're comparing like to like
Trump admin ups drone strikes, tolerates higher civilian casualties
The administration is giving the military more autonomy to target and kill al Qaeda and ISIS militants in Yemen, Somalia, Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan.
No, you're comparing unknown to unknown.Trump dropped those rules basically as soon as he came into office, we're comparing like to like
Trump admin ups drone strikes, tolerates higher civilian casualties
The administration is giving the military more autonomy to target and kill al Qaeda and ISIS militants in Yemen, Somalia, Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan.www.nbcnews.com
I really doubt Tstorm is wrong here. In most "democracies" the people we should be really worried about are the ones we don't vote for. How much the sitting president is actively ordering the drone strikes as opposed to just signing off on whatever the military wants done.
Personally I think Trump was a particularly vile president in almost every way except how he did his job. America is a bad country run by terrorists.
US covid deaths to Jan 31st (Trump): ~470,000
US covid deaths to date: ~780,000
Therefore covid deaths under Biden = 780,000-470,000 = 310,000.
So, that's plainly not true.
Ah, the eternal bullshit get-out of "but what if X was in charge" to excuse incompetence.
I think likely Clinton would have taken in seriously and have got going on planning a halfway (or better) useful national covid response. Rather than what Trump did, which was twiddle his thumbs and hope everything turned out okay whilst telling everyone it was just the 'flu. And then having to run round in circles flapping desperately for months trying to look like his administration was doing something, before just abandoning all pretence at usefulness and instead undermining individual states initiatives to control covid.
It would likely have been bad instead of worse. Both parties were and are beholden to liberal property rights and maintaining the threat of various miseries to compel work, so they'd already forsaken the tools at their disposal to organize the best response.