Biggest plothole in gaming?
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See, I get the feeling that Toad is acting as some sort of ninja assassin trying to save the princess on his own. What happens is, he breaks into these enemy castles, bypassing all defenses, and starts looking for the princess. Yet, he can't find her. Then, to figure out where she is, he lies in wait for Bowser to sleep so he can ask the villain at knife-point where the princess is. Instead, this Mario klutz comes along every-time, Bowser escapes death in his lava proof submarine after the 'battle' with Mario, and it takes all Toad has not to kill Mario on the spot as he explains that the princess is in another castle.LittleChone said:Toad.
How the hell did he get in all those castles in the first place?!?!?!?
That could just be me though.
How is it I can carry hundreds of pokeballs at any given time, but only 6 pokemon?StellarViking said:
The problem with the Flood was they literally flooded you with immense numbers. They couldn't possibly kill all of them fast enough and any dead body that hasn't decayed to the point of being a skeleton became a viable host. So that is why the Forerunners built the Halo Array. Now, how humans and the Covenant survived the initial activation of the Halos I will never know. And also, Spartans are like the Green Berets and Spetsnaz on steroids, and not to mention that Master Chief is supposed to be the best one, so he could kill millions of them, but everyone else would be SCREWED!Ninjat_126 said:
OT: I would say Dragon Age 2 had some bad ones.
Anders needs your help to blow up the Chantry, but he somehow manages it even though you might not help him.
Why does Carver join the Templars even if you are friends with him? Why does Bethany turn so cold even though YOU SAVE HER LIFE if she becomes a Grey Warden?
I go to Orsino (Mage leader) to help the Mages fight back against Meredith and he tells me to follow his students that sneak out at night. I go under the MAGE'S ORDERS and walk in on Templars and Mages working together to oust Meredith, and they claim that I am there under Meredith's orders to stop them EVEN THOUGH I DENOUNCED MEREDITH IN PUBLIC and they attacked, forcing me to kill all of them. Then I go the second meeting place and again, they attack except for the one Templar that I helped before. He then comes up to me and asks why I would work for Meredith.
I explain to him that I work for Orsino to HELP THE MAGES JUST LIKE I SAID IN PUBLIC!!! He points me to their hideout where they kidnapped my brother to prevent me from interfering with their plans, again, despite me calling out Meredith IN PUBLIC!
Whatever, I go to the hideout to get my brother and tell them that I came to help their cause. I get there and what do I find? The Templar that I helped in aiding some apostates escape the Circle and those same apostates, and he comes up to me and says, "You're a reasonable man, surely you can see Meredith is wrong? Why do you choose to help her?" Which, at this point I explain, yet again, that I OPPOSE MEREDITH AND WANT TO HELP THE MAGES!!! Then the Mages I helped before kill the Templar that helped them and want me dead because I killed their leader WHEN HE ATTACKED ME FIRST WITH NO QUESTIONS ASKED! And for some reason, they use Blood Magic to kill the Templar in charge there, and the rest of the Templars are on the Blood Mage's side and everyone is trying to kill me.
I kill everyone except for the one reasonable one and he frees my brother, who is now finally accepting my help and appreciating me saving him for the billionth time and for making him a Grey Warden instead of dying from the Blight. At least one plot hole is resolved... by making one the size of the Grand Canyon.
I explain to him that I work for Orsino to HELP THE MAGES JUST LIKE I SAID IN PUBLIC!!! He points me to their hideout where they kidnapped my brother to prevent me from interfering with their plans, again, despite me calling out Meredith IN PUBLIC!
Whatever, I go to the hideout to get my brother and tell them that I came to help their cause. I get there and what do I find? The Templar that I helped in aiding some apostates escape the Circle and those same apostates, and he comes up to me and says, "You're a reasonable man, surely you can see Meredith is wrong? Why do you choose to help her?" Which, at this point I explain, yet again, that I OPPOSE MEREDITH AND WANT TO HELP THE MAGES!!! Then the Mages I helped before kill the Templar that helped them and want me dead because I killed their leader WHEN HE ATTACKED ME FIRST WITH NO QUESTIONS ASKED! And for some reason, they use Blood Magic to kill the Templar in charge there, and the rest of the Templars are on the Blood Mage's side and everyone is trying to kill me.
I kill everyone except for the one reasonable one and he frees my brother, who is now finally accepting my help and appreciating me saving him for the billionth time and for making him a Grey Warden instead of dying from the Blight. At least one plot hole is resolved... by making one the size of the Grand Canyon.
The biggest plothole in gaming?
The fact that piracy, Used and Rental markets are all choking the life out of one of the worlds most profitable industries.
Ok, being serious? Theres been several instances of "they had a whole big section of the game devoted to this one story arch and then they trailed off and never came back and explained what happened" moments in gaming history, but it has seemed to me, that when those instances come up, the offending game really wasnt that memorable in the first place.
The fact that piracy, Used and Rental markets are all choking the life out of one of the worlds most profitable industries.
Ok, being serious? Theres been several instances of "they had a whole big section of the game devoted to this one story arch and then they trailed off and never came back and explained what happened" moments in gaming history, but it has seemed to me, that when those instances come up, the offending game really wasnt that memorable in the first place.
About the civil war. Simply put, Loghains a dick and a mad one at that. So the PC has two choices, either let the mad dick do things his way (not too profitable, considering he sacrificed the most elite troops at his disposal for political reasons) or fight the mad dick (in which case the civil war happens).thethingthatlurks said:
The elves pretty much have to live in the forest to avoid coming under the heel of human rule and being put in a ghetto. You could obviously argue that it's still better than being killed off or turned into werewolves, but it's obvious from your interactions with them that the Dalish elves are insufferably proud. The werewolves don't just wipe out the elves because they want them to suffer for what's been done to them and as such try to drag it out for as long as possible. It is entirely possible for the PC to say "Fuck it, those elf guys sounds like dicks. We should kill them all and then you can fight for me since you're awesome".
The Dwarves don't much care about the blight because as you know they have to deal with the Darkspawn every day and they lost most of their civilisation to them. It is therefore rather hard for them to be sympathetic to the humans when they have to deal with the Darkspawn once. It's not their problem and it's only the Grey Warden treaties that oblige them to fight. Those treaties have to be acknowledged by a king which is where the trouble starts because the dwarves have to do everything officially and 'properly'.
As for the whole mage tower thing... well that just seems to be a problem because it's very hard to have an idea of the time span between the origin story and you returning to the mage's tower, since at no point is it indicated how long it actually takes to travel anywhere.
I don't get why everyone is claiming that the Reapers don't make sense, it's pretty well-established that they come after organic life after it's developed for several millenia so that they can steal their advances in technology and thus become more advanced themselves.
Probably 'cause they're like the Covenant in Halo - As in, they don't adapt to environments, they just mimic things already in the environment, which is why they all use Forerunner tech instead of making their own shit.
Probably 'cause they're like the Covenant in Halo - As in, they don't adapt to environments, they just mimic things already in the environment, which is why they all use Forerunner tech instead of making their own shit.
The Plagas I think just left their host inrepairably damaged, and it doesn't appear the villegers can bring it out on will, only as a last resort defence mechanism in the case an infected's head is blasted off.LobsterFeng said:
The lack of guns isn't that unrealistic. Remember, in Europe their are much, much more restrictive gun laws then here in the US (except Norway and Swizterland). The villagers are very simple peasents, and it might be argued that the castle guys were a presudo religious order and guns might be against their "religion." Of course that doesn't explain why the soldiers on the last island were still using crossbows, considering that the special ones in that area are carrying MINI-GUNS for christ sake.
The culture of the Fallout world never got out of the 50s or so. All of the "old" music in the game is the "new releases" of the culture. Additionally, Fallout loves it some references. Why write some old style music when you can just use the good old stuff?Bento Box said:
Like most creatures in mario,LittleChone said:Toad.
How the hell did he get in all those castles in the first place?!?!?!?
There's a lot of them that look the same, and one that is named after his species. Another such example is Yoshie.
But really, who names their kid like that? What if your parents named you "Human"?
I get the impression that somewhere halfway through KH: CoM's development they decided to steer away from the "chosen one" cliche and veer towards the "jedi knights" cliche.Doomcat said:
I still like the plot either way, and depending on how the 3ds game goes, see potential in the "jedi knights" order of keybearers thing.
heh... my friends were cooping the mario game and on the last level, the one playing mario died but the one playing luigi beat the game! and yet... mario got the girl and flew off in a balloon... wth? they just abandoned luigi? the hero? not sure if that's a plot hole, but it's certainly something weird. (ps, hope that's not a spoiler... cause um... it's basically the ending of every mario game)Mr. Omega said:
Don't feel too bad for Luigi. He's dating royalty too, and she hasn't been kidnapped in YEARS!Coffinshaker said:
Alright, i'm willing to accept that, but...they went through all the setup for the chosen one thing and then noone acts suprised when someone else shows up with a keyblade, their all like "oh hai, help with nobodies plox?" I'd really prefer continuity over a sudden story change with no reasoning behind it...Innegativeion said:
I mean, even if it was a total BS thing i'd probably take that better then simply changing it and hoping the players don't notice.
In the ending of the first game,Doomcat said:
Mickey has his own keyblade, so the existance of multiple blades is set up in the first game. Also, Riku's keyblade in KH2 is a true keyblade, unlike the one he wielded in the first game.
I also just remembered KH1 constantly eluded to past keybearers "causing either wonder or ruin" across the various worlds, but then that plot point was kind of dropped in the shitter until the psp game.
If you've followed the KH plot so far, I think they're finally bringing that plot point full circle in KH3 (whenever it comes out).
If you've followed the KH plot so far, I think they're finally bringing that plot point full circle in KH3 (whenever it comes out).