BioShock's Andrew Ryan Tells Kids: "Say Nope to Dope"

[Professor James]

I felt like it ;(

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Dude how'd you do that

 

[Twilight_guy]

I'm kind of annoyed at the people who make a point of saying that people telling kids not to use drugs is bad here. This thread is not about your opinion on anti-drug policies in schools. Its about some awesome posters that go along with what is a cultural notion set in stone in the US.

I think there nice little works of art myself. Who could ever resist a "would you kindly say nope to dope" poster anyways?

That's like saying there's nothing wrong with Soviet propaganda posters just because they went "along with what was a cultural notion set in stone" in the USSR.

Maybe we should bring back all those Jim Crow posters about scary black people, there are plenty of people in the US who find that a quaint cultural notion.

Straw-man argument.
You're trying to disprove my argument by saying its about support these posters. My post is saying that their is a time and a place for those arguments and this thread and news story is not here for a debate its about admiring an artist's artwork. Having a big debate detracts from that point and thus is not related ti this story and is tangential to the point of the story.

 

[gibboss28]

Bwahahahahhaahahaaaa! DARE was a HUGE FAILURE! Kids who were in DARE ended up with lower self esteem, and MORE likely to try drugs. All those "drugs are bad becasue they ae bad" people and slogans make me wanna smoke a huge bowl. We should educate children on the dangers of dangerous drugs, but do it the right way. Don't have some goodie two shoes like GI Joe come and and say "The only drugs you should do are America and steroids."

Weed is entirely more safe than tobacco and alcohol. Hell, I'd rather raise a child in a world without caffiene than a world without weed. To condemn marijuana with things like meth is silly. 1 person out of 104 people who have smoked weed has tried cocaine. Gateway drug my ass.

I had a convo with a friend who has had a very proper upbringing. We were talking about marijuana. I was up on my soapbox giving the same spill I just gave you guys, only more polite. He couldn't really back up any claims why marijuana is bad, until eventually he just said he didn't feel comfortable talking about it. We have programmed it into people's heads that weed is just this horrible thing that shouldn't exist.

I now have 0 respect for Andrew Ryan, and for sure will never be picking up Bioshock.

Well done, you've confused me more than I already was.

 

[RvLeshrac]

I'm kind of annoyed at the people who make a point of saying that people telling kids not to use drugs is bad here. This thread is not about your opinion on anti-drug policies in schools. Its about some awesome posters that go along with what is a cultural notion set in stone in the US.

I think there nice little works of art myself. Who could ever resist a "would you kindly say nope to dope" poster anyways?

That's like saying there's nothing wrong with Soviet propaganda posters just because they went "along with what was a cultural notion set in stone" in the USSR.

Maybe we should bring back all those Jim Crow posters about scary black people, there are plenty of people in the US who find that a quaint cultural notion.

Straw-man argument.
You're trying to disprove my argument by saying its about support these posters. My post is saying that their is a time and a place for those arguments and this thread and news story is not here for a debate its about admiring an artist's artwork. Having a big debate detracts from that point and thus is not related ti this story and is tangential to the point of the story.

So, basically, you're saying that we should shut up until directly asked for our opinions. Yeah, that's worked well for society in the past.

Sorry, but the post is pro-DARE. The posters are pro-DARE. This is *EXACTLY* where you should have a discussion about DARE.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

I like my teen drug addicts like I like my women - COVERED IN BEES!

*ahem*

sorry.

Anyways...

I'd suggest that of the whole thing, "A man chooses, a slave gives into peer pressure" is by far the best, and a great message to convey at an early age without needing to even link it to drug use. You don't need to do drugs, cos the cool kids do, you also don't need Nike sneakers or an ipad, just because they have em. Sure, if you genuinely want one, go for it, but don't let the hordes push you into wanting stuff just to fit in.

What's the deal with giving massively expensive gadgets to young kids nowadays, without wishing to encourage bullying or crime, I reckon I could go down to the bus stop tomorrow at 3pm, and make about 5 grand in iphones, psps, and the like, just robbing the kids. Sure , give em a basic $20 phone, if you need to keep in touch, but damn, makes me wonder how hard the recession's hitting when half a busful of kids has an iphone.

Anyways. sorry, deviating rather from the main thread

 

[OldGus]

Nice posters. I disagree with their message though.

But still, nice posters.

Nope to do-

What the? NO! I will no-

Nope to dope.

ARGHHHH!

I had to say it too.
But notice how he didn't ask "Would you kindly type 'Nope to Dope'"

 

[BehattedWanderer]

Gotta love the meth campaign parody. It's not normal, but it might be awesome.

 

[subject_87]

Ahh, yes, painting the world in black and white. That's always a fantastic thing to inflict upon our children. "All drugs are bad, and there is NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE TO THIS WAY OF THINKING. Clearly, anyone providing any scientific research which indicates the contrary is lying to you."

Erm, I think you might be reading a bit much into it; while you may have a point, I'm pretty sure these were meant to just be amusing little satires and in-jokes. Save that for another thread.

 

[tobi the good boy]

I'm gonna be honest I'm usually very against drugs ... But I dont think i could pass up on shooting bees at people

 

[Twilight_guy]

I'm kind of annoyed at the people who make a point of saying that people telling kids not to use drugs is bad here. This thread is not about your opinion on anti-drug policies in schools. Its about some awesome posters that go along with what is a cultural notion set in stone in the US.

I think there nice little works of art myself. Who could ever resist a "would you kindly say nope to dope" poster anyways?

That's like saying there's nothing wrong with Soviet propaganda posters just because they went "along with what was a cultural notion set in stone" in the USSR.

Maybe we should bring back all those Jim Crow posters about scary black people, there are plenty of people in the US who find that a quaint cultural notion.

Straw-man argument.
You're trying to disprove my argument by saying its about support these posters. My post is saying that their is a time and a place for those arguments and this thread and news story is not here for a debate its about admiring an artist's artwork. Having a big debate detracts from that point and thus is not related ti this story and is tangential to the point of the story.

So, basically, you're saying that we should shut up until directly asked for our opinions. Yeah, that's worked well for society in the past.

Sorry, but the post is pro-DARE. The posters are pro-DARE. This is *EXACTLY* where you should have a discussion about DARE.

Actually, I saw them more as satire. The posters express the exact opposite of Ryan's philosophy. Objectivism would say do whatever the hell you want with your body and these posters project the opposite image, do whatever the hell I tell you with your body. They can be easily interpreted as ironic whit and anti-DARE.

 

[Kelethor]

Heh, cute :3

 

[joshuaayt]

I thought the little sister looked cuter in the "after" shot.

Nice posters- I've been needing a new desktop background.

 

[Haydyn]

I now have 0 respect for Andrew Ryan, and for sure will never be picking up Bioshock.

And with this one line I'm now unsure if the entire post was a pro-marijuana screed or the cleverest anti-marijuana post in existence.

I now have 0 respect for Andrew Ryan, and for sure will never be picking up Bioshock.

I don't know if you're joking or not but if you aren't you should realize that 2K (the people who created bioshock) didn't make this.

Bwahahahahhaahahaaaa! DARE was a HUGE FAILURE! Kids who were in DARE ended up with lower self esteem, and MORE likely to try drugs. All those "drugs are bad becasue they ae bad" people and slogans make me wanna smoke a huge bowl. We should educate children on the dangers of dangerous drugs, but do it the right way. Don't have some goodie two shoes like GI Joe come and and say "The only drugs you should do are America and steroids."

Weed is entirely more safe than tobacco and alcohol. Hell, I'd rather raise a child in a world without caffiene than a world without weed. To condemn marijuana with things like meth is silly. 1 person out of 104 people who have smoked weed has tried cocaine. Gateway drug my ass.

I had a convo with a friend who has had a very proper upbringing. We were talking about marijuana. I was up on my soapbox giving the same spill I just gave you guys, only more polite. He couldn't really back up any claims why marijuana is bad, until eventually he just said he didn't feel comfortable talking about it. We have programmed it into people's heads that weed is just this horrible thing that shouldn't exist.

I now have 0 respect for Andrew Ryan, and for sure will never be picking up Bioshock.

Quit with all the preaching,You sound like a douche everyone has heard this before and cannabis effects everyone slightly differently.
And i hope that last part is a joke.

Bwahahahahhaahahaaaa! DARE was a HUGE FAILURE! Kids who were in DARE ended up with lower self esteem, and MORE likely to try drugs. All those "drugs are bad becasue they ae bad" people and slogans make me wanna smoke a huge bowl. We should educate children on the dangers of dangerous drugs, but do it the right way. Don't have some goodie two shoes like GI Joe come and and say "The only drugs you should do are America and steroids."

Weed is entirely more safe than tobacco and alcohol. Hell, I'd rather raise a child in a world without caffiene than a world without weed. To condemn marijuana with things like meth is silly. 1 person out of 104 people who have smoked weed has tried cocaine. Gateway drug my ass.

I had a convo with a friend who has had a very proper upbringing. We were talking about marijuana. I was up on my soapbox giving the same spill I just gave you guys, only more polite. He couldn't really back up any claims why marijuana is bad, until eventually he just said he didn't feel comfortable talking about it. We have programmed it into people's heads that weed is just this horrible thing that shouldn't exist.

I now have 0 respect for Andrew Ryan, and for sure will never be picking up Bioshock.

Well done, you've confused me more than I already was.

Well, my my. I got more than I bargained for on this one, haha.

For starters I am pro marijuana. Sometimes I fight fire with fire. When going up against DARE, I choose to also be narrow minded and smug. I did get carried away, I'm not denying that.

When it comes to Andrew Ryan, yes, that was a joke. From what I've heard about him, he's just some "Drugs are bad, m'kay?" guy who is bringing his own political opinion into a game that, from everything I know about Bioshock, has never explored the anti drug agenda. On a personal level, I don't really care for Bioshock. I never had any interest in getting it before or after I saw this thread. I just wanted to shoot some doucheyness back at Andrew.

I do have a very strong opinion on marijuana, and I am offended it has gotten the rep it has due to hidden agendas and greed, as well as the banning of marijuana being linked HEAVILY to racism. So whether you dislike me or my opinion, don't let it reflect negatively towards your own opinion about marijuana. I am by all means an extremist, it would seem.

 

[samaugsch]

I now have 0 respect for Andrew Ryan, and for sure will never be picking up Bioshock.

I don't know if you're joking or not but if you aren't you should realize that 2K (the people who created bioshock) didn't make this.

2k didn't make Bioshock (though they did make Bioshock 2). IrrationalGames did.

 

[rainbowunicorns]

Please see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture_%28BioShock%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire

The idea that anti-drug posters would exist in Rapture is ridiculous. Did the artist entirely miss the point of Rapture's society?

 

[Devil's Due]

For starters I am pro marijuana.

No one wants to hear about drug users / supporters / or those against it, nor is this thread the place about "I am a pro / anti (insert illegal thing here, depending on country)." This is about BioShock, the artists work, and D.A.R.E. If you want to go around sprouting love for substances that alter your body, go make another thread with it in mind, preferably in the Religion and Politic forums.

As for the thread, I support the "A man chooses, a slave gives in to peer pressure." This can be applied to more than drugs, but to any other pressure such as underage sex, buying some brand because everyone wears it, smoking, or anything else that someone would not normally choose to do themselves except by being pressured into it.

 

[Haydyn]

For starters I am pro marijuana.

No one wants to hear about drug users / supporters / or those against it, nor is this thread the place about "I am a pro / anti (insert illegal thing here, depending on country)." This is about BioShock, the artists work, and D.A.R.E. If you want to go around sprouting love for substances that alter your body, go make another thread with it in mind, preferably in the Religion and Politic forums.

As for the thread, I support the "A man chooses, a slave gives in to peer pressure." This can be applied to more than drugs, but to any other pressure such as underage sex, buying some brand because everyone wears it, smoking, or anything else that someone would not normally choose to do themselves except by being pressured into it.

There was questioning if I was pro marijuana or performing satire as an anti marijuana advocate. I answered the question. Did you stop and think that nobody wants to hear you ranting and raving? I'd call you a hypocrite, but my rant had legit motivation. Your rant was just anger towards me. Don't let it bother you, man. We both have very similar feelings toward peer pressure, so we more than likely agree on more than we disagree.

As for why I was talking about marijuana, it's because DARE was brought up. I don't care whether somebody supports or doesn't support marijuana use. Let me go on record by stating nobody should be proud of what DARE acomplished. If soembody wants teens to stay away from drugs, then they have beef with DARE because DARE increased the amount of teens who did drugs. Even if somebody is pro marijuana use, they have beef with DARE because they weakened teens against peer pressure. The only people who should be happy with DARE are drug dealers, because DARE increased the amount of teens who gave in and tried drugs. DARE backfired.

I don't see how the average person could support DARE. Not only is the illigalization of marijuana questionable, but DARE DIDN"T WORK! You have gone on reocrd as being against peer pressure. Well then I would like to believe you have a problem with DARE for increasing the power of peer pressure.

If you have a problem with me talking about something that does relate to the topic, then that's your problem. I don't have a problem with you, but rather your choice to attack me.

Edit: That, and saying "No one wants to hear about drug users / supporters / or those against it" is asinine. I didn't know you spoke for everybody as a whole.