BioShock's Andrew Ryan Tells Kids: "Say Nope to Dope"
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He spoke for me at least. This thread is about an artist's work, not your personal preference on illegal substances. I would suggest everyone just comment on the artwork. It keeps the thread on topic and gets around a lot of unnecessary arguing.Haydyn said:
So are you saying if there was a thread talking about artwork in which a puppy is shot in the face, but it is set in Dragon Age 2, you would suggest everybody just comment on the artwork?Sarge034 said:
I am commenting on the artwork. It involves DARE. The artist is portraying DARE as an orginization that reduced the number of teens who tried drugs, even though the opposite was true. I wouldn't be making these comments had he portrayed DARE as the failure it was, and I see no reason for my comments to not be valid in this thread.
Coincidentally I'm wearing a D.A.R.E. T-shirt right now 
Do they not explain what drugs are about in school these days? They have sex ed right, why not drug education? Lose the propaganda and tell them the truth about drugs.
Though honestly I've never really understood why people would do drugs for the most part.
Do they not explain what drugs are about in school these days? They have sex ed right, why not drug education? Lose the propaganda and tell them the truth about drugs.
Though honestly I've never really understood why people would do drugs for the most part.
Quite!Sir John the Net Knight said:
Maby Columbia will make for a better theme for this kind of propganda, but seing as it is set during 'The Great Binge' I doubt it.
Yea...not really liking these. Setting wise they don't make sense, and asthetic wise, I am dissapoint.
Yea yea, this is satire. It's just really cheaply done LAZY satire.
Yea yea, this is satire. It's just really cheaply done LAZY satire.
Very, very cool. I don't approve of the DARE program in real life but that's not the argument here; this is just an example of someone producing some (interesting) artwork by "splicing" (sorry, had to) the genre of Bioshock with post-Nancy-Regan "Just Say No!" campaigning in the late '80s together.
Come to think of it, Nancy Regan probably would have gotten along with Andrew Ryan...
Anyway, very cool.
Come to think of it, Nancy Regan probably would have gotten along with Andrew Ryan...
Anyway, very cool.
You DO know that Andrew Ryan ran a libertarian/objectivist paradise. There wasn't any law against, say, shooting up heroin, let alone smoking weed.Haydyn said:
These are *paraodys*
You really REALLY should play Bioshock.
First I would ask how those two things are related and then suggest we comment on the artwork.Haydyn said:
You do realize that only one poster references DARE right? So talk about the art as a set, don't just point out your personal opinion on one thing referenced in one of the pictures. Your views on DARE are your own, but that is not what this thread is about. This thread is about the art that parodies several anti-drug slogans in the US.
Good day sir/madam, I SAID GOOD DAY! (I will not reply to you again.)
Ugh... I fucking hate this war on drugs. Dear society, stop making out drugs to be this objectively evil concept that will turn your kids into junkies if they so much as touch it, not use mind you, just touch it! Do we really need to use fear to get our point across? I was bombarded with this type of propaganda all my life and you know what I did? I started drinking, smoking cigarettes and pot and have also tried LSD and MDMA and I don't see any bee hives growing on my hands (when I'm not on acid).
But perhaps by drugs they mean heavy shit, like Heroin or cocaine. I think the best way to prevent someone from using those substances is to tell him the truth about what problems will it bring to him, such as your body will be destroyed and you will start selling your possessions to just buy the next fix for the rest of your short life or that it will violently tear your nose apart and you will die (possibly while defending your mansion from the goons of another drug lord).
You know why drug related crime is so high (no pun intended)? I'll give you a small hint, but you must use your own brains to connect the pieces: "Prohibition". Yeah, remember that?
But perhaps by drugs they mean heavy shit, like Heroin or cocaine. I think the best way to prevent someone from using those substances is to tell him the truth about what problems will it bring to him, such as your body will be destroyed and you will start selling your possessions to just buy the next fix for the rest of your short life or that it will violently tear your nose apart and you will die (possibly while defending your mansion from the goons of another drug lord).
You know why drug related crime is so high (no pun intended)? I'll give you a small hint, but you must use your own brains to connect the pieces: "Prohibition". Yeah, remember that?
Dude, you know this was done as a joke, right? I mean, who the hell would believe that if you do this magical new drug called a "plasmid" (which no one has fucking ever heard of as a drug in the first place) your arms will turn into bee-hives.Russian_Assassin said:
Also, by your logic is gun violence so prevalent because they're illegal? Hell, no. It's because there are the exceptional stupid people that do stupid things and get caught for it. They then become the poster-child for that group of people and the public learns to hate them.
LOL about drugs. Seriously, humans will never learn. Blame the tools but don't blame the user for not having the intelligence to know what the tool does and what it is capable of. Christ, I'm depressed. Hey ya, Bill ol' buddy, mind cheering me up?
Thanks a bunch, Bill...
Thanks a bunch, Bill...
... You have absolutely no sense of humor, do you? These propaganda posters are clearly parody. How can you look at the ridiculous imagery and goofy wording and NOT come to that conclusion? You're like that insane feminist who's constantly fighting against the release of Duke Nukem.Haydyn said:
Chillax bro.
No, you missed my point a bit. Say there is someone who wants to stab a syringe full of smack into his eye. He can not buy it anywhere, so he has to go to a guy, whom we will call "Little Devil" (I don't know any good non-racist dealer names) to make that purchase. Say Little Devil has many customers like our main guy, but he wants more, so he goes into a neighborhood that is run by Big Devil and he doesn't like it when people sell smack on his streets, so the end result is a drug fueled war on the streets with many casualties.bl4ckh4wk64 said:
But what if our guy could legally purchase smack? Then Little and Big Devil would be out of business. Sure our guy would eventually die from drug abuse, but I don't see how smokers are any different. Drinking is legal. Does every single person on earth die from alcohol abuse? Smoking is legal. Does every person on earth die from lung cancer? Why should we be so prejudiced against other drugs then? You know what illegal substance causes a lot less harm than those two, is not addictive and you can not even take a lethal dose? Marijuana.
I know that many will disagree with me, either because they have researched facts that are way different than the ones I researched (which I will not characterize, because I may trigger a fiery debate) or because their social environments have hammered this idea in their heads that drugs are bad and they will get addicted to every narcotic there is out there if they as much as come close to the substance in question or a user.
For me it was because my brother became the one percent who went on to other, harder drugs. My mother's health got so bad from marijuana that she had a heart attack and beyond that her failing health has made it nigh impossible to leave the house as well as lose many of her jobs, but she still buys the crap. My father couldn't look after me or my brother as a child for he was too high and a danger to us all. It's highly addictive and I know that if I take it I'll end up just like them, because in my family it's what always happens. Not to mention that Marihuana is a psychological drug, not physical, which means you can get rid of the addiction fast but it will always have a hold on you and you'll never be able to escape it. Also creates long term depression especially within the withdrawal stage (like all drugs) and makes mental illness like schizophrenia and bipolar more prolific.Haydyn said:
Now, I don't know you, so I don't give a rats ass as to what you do to yourself, I just think the world would be a better place with out Weed... and Coffee and Nicotine. (Tobacco is a harmless, leaf that has no side-effects or benefits, it's not a danger to anyone, the crap they add to the tobacco addictive when making a cigar or cigarette is dangerous.)