BioWare Co-Founder: Consoles Are "The Past"

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Can't we all just get along!
Consoles = Just as good as PCs!
*reads through again probably*
WTF! Bioware is saying portable gaming is the future?
Hell just froze over.
These are the people who only ever made 1 portable game and that was to promote ME:2.
It was good, sure, but not somthing Bioware should be concentrating on.
is it me? Or has Bioware recently been saying all sorts of weird shit.
 

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Stabby Joe said:
I'm trying to remember the last story that DIDN'T revolve around a statement by Bioware. Don't get me wrong, I love the developer but I'm just noticing a lot of talk from there recently.
it usually happens whenever a big release is coming. remember all that talk about crysis 2 not so long ago and the bashing of every other popular game?

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Yeah, because what we really need right now is more iPhone games. Yep, there's your untapped reservoir of gold, right there. ¬¬
This line is just too perfect to even add something... xD
 

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JourneyThroughHell said:
If consoles are the past, what is the future? You can't just say such bold words and expect us to go "okay".
"We want to expand because, you look at what kids are playing on. Kids are playing on iPhones and iPads. The 3DS looks pretty amazing. All these platform options, we want to be touching on all those."
Looks to me as if he's saying that handheld gaming is the future. He has a point; isn't the DS by far the highest seller of the current gaming machines?

I disagree, though. There is a lot of money there, sure, but iPhones and the like are fads. Technologically impressive, very cool, but before too long the technology will be surpassed, the same as the Wii. There will always be a place for console gaming, much as there will always be a place for PC gaming. The market priority may shift, but there will always be those of us who'd rather sit at home and play consoles.
 
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I would launch a bloody war to prevent iPhone "games" from being focused on. I haven't played a fun handheld game since the GBA. I also hate small screens.

[small]And there's also that guilty pleasure of Cooking Mama, but I acknowledge the inanity of it freely, and am perfectly willing to sacrifice it.[/small]

Also, stop listening to the kids. Stop pandering to them and give them some fucking clay - that's all they'll need for entertainment if they're going to make developers focus on iPhone games.
 

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Never mind the question of whether or not consoles are doomed--these Bioware guys have been pretty damned chatty all of a sudden, huh? Hey, guys, how about you just get back to work on Mass Effect 3?
 

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Fallen-Angel Risen-Demon said:
Can't we all just get along!
Consoles = Just as good as PCs!
*reads through again probably*
WTF! Bioware is saying portable gaming is the future?
Hell just froze over.
These are the people who only ever made 1 portable game and that was to promote ME:2.
It was good, sure, but not somthing Bioware should be concentrating on.
is it me? Or has Bioware recently been saying all sorts of weird shit.
They also made Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood. I never played it, but apparently it redeemed Sonic.

Other than that, I can concur - with you - somewhat.

So long as they don't focus their entire endeavor on it and make consoles and PCs the poorer for it. I think it'd be an interesting way to increase revenue and thus be capable of supporting their own games for the most part which increases their creative freedom from publishers.
 

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And as one more interesting note, the title reads as:

BioWare Co-Founder: Consoles Are "The Past"
And NOT BioWare Co-Founder: Consoles Are "***In*** The Past"

Please think about this somewhat before replying.
 
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Wow, Bioware do like stirring up trouble recently don't they? Maybe they finally realised that for all their good games, they don't have some sort of massive controversy to keep them going, like Valve and the whole Half Life 3, or Bobby Kotick in general, so they make massive sweeping statements which are bound to be proven wrong, but makes everyone jump on their band wagon for a while.

They strike me recently as being almost as bad as anyone who claimed back in 1986 that 'PC Gaming is the past' they weren't technically wrong and they weren't technically right, but it generated controversy and whoever said it got media and fanboy attention.

Also, it is nice to hear that with their turning their focus away from their core demographic and instead trying to hit the casual gamer market, maybe now they'll finally stop making all those incredible console games with epic sweeping stories and instead develop Paggle 2: Return of the ball, and let other studios handle all those awful story and character driven epics with superb writing and an immersive atmosphere.

I mean, what with consoles and PCs now being the past, we must all just hate games with a good story, right? Give us more casual games Bioware, go on, that's really what we want.

Alright alright, I will add a serious note to this. He's wrong. He's wrong in almost every way and I really hope that no one at Bioware pays too much attention because now that they've established themselves as a powerhouse of good story-telling in games I would hate to see them fall prey to the easy money of the most evil corporation in the entire world.
 

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SonicWaffle said:
JourneyThroughHell said:
If consoles are the past, what is the future? You can't just say such bold words and expect us to go "okay".
"We want to expand because, you look at what kids are playing on. Kids are playing on iPhones and iPads. The 3DS looks pretty amazing. All these platform options, we want to be touching on all those."
Looks to me as if he's saying that handheld gaming is the future. He has a point; isn't the DS by far the highest seller of the current gaming machines?
Highest selling is, by no means, better. Is Twilight the future standard of movies?
So, even if he thinks that, which is by no means wrong, he can at least refrain from insulting dedicated gamers.
 

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Let me put this boldly Greg Zeschuk.

Ssaying that consoles are a thing of the past is a stupid idiotic thing to say.

Its almost like saying " hey i don't like Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo i like apple instead yeah lets focus on apple that started off as a music player industry and what didn't start off as a gaming industry, thats the right way to focus our money on.

I can't begin to explain how much hate i have for Bioware and their retarded bullcrap flaunting statements around like they want attention.

And the focus on kids part yeah cheers bioware way to be supportive of other demographics in the market.. f*#"ing retards.
 

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Eventually, yes, we'll just have screens on any surface and mysterious cloud-enabled databoxes that stream whatever we want, whenever we want, available to the mass market with the same plug and play as present day consoles. Until then, there's still a market to be had for specialized gaming devices, and people want games to play them on.

I love my PC, my Mac, my 360 and my iPhone, and I've gamed on all of them, but one of them is vastly lacking in games that do more than fill ten minutes waiting in line. Is there a ton of money to be made selling casual games to casual gamers? Sure, that's what the Wii and mobile gaming is all about. But there's also a huge, hungry audience for top tier games that require serious hardware to run (and by that I mean PCs or current gen consoles with a decent AV setup).

I've seen people try to make the case that 'what kids want' is iPod gaming, or mobile gaming, which is rather funny, given all the kids I see playing these AAA titles that Bioware itself makes. What he's trying to say, in fairly vague language, is that they could be generating more profit from less risk off more, smaller and cheaper games for platforms that you don't have to spend ridiculous amounts of cash on. But that's like Mercedes coming out and saying that, you know, why aren't we making tons of cheap cars like Kia? Look at the profits!

And even that doesn't quite explain it all, since they're making the assumption that just because people do enjoy mobile gaming on tiny screens with limited functionality (again, compared to the top tier hardware), that they don't also enjoy the premium experience. Should Bioware make some awesome mobile game? Sure, go for it, but I don't see how that means 'consoles are in the past' any more than the arrival of cheap subcompacts meant the end of the luxury sedan, or the TV the end of the movie theater.
 

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iPhone games aren't true games, they're time-wasters. Come on Bioware, focus on making decent games rather than gimmicks.
 

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You guys are acting like BioWare just make blanket statements to the press to incite controversy, he was just making a speech at a developer's conference. He also didn't say "Consoles are a thing of the past", just that there is a strong future in these other platforms as well as console.

I happen to disagree on iphone/pads, their games are just awful. I have one game on my iphone I've had for a year now and that is Yahtzee. As long as BW and other developers continue creating quality games for consoles/PC I don't care what they do for the portable consoles.
 

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Meh looks like a standard "we'll diversify" statement. Not much to see here really, with the possible exception that Bioware seems to think they can make a bundle on casual gaming? At least the way I'm reading it; I don't see a Baldur's gate for iphone on the horizon.

Gift.
BTW I don't think the headline reflects the actual message.
 

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JourneyThroughHell said:
If consoles are the past, what is the future? You can't just say such bold words and expect us to go "okay".

Also, focusing entirely on "kids"? Not cool, Bioware, not cool.
Feel free to disagree with me, but it looks like Bioware is arguing for industry murder. I can't really see how they can say things like that with games like ToR and DA2 in development.
I'm with you on this one. What kind of kids wants Bioware games in his iPhone? I certainly don't. PC and Console gaming will always be the norm.
 

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At first I thought he was going to go on to suggest services line OnLive, but it seems he just wants to do away with home gaming completely and move into hand helds? Either he didn't put himself across clearly or this article is worded badly.
 

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Giftmacher said:
Meh looks like a standard "we'll diversify" statement. Not much to see here really, with the possible exception that Bioware seems to think they can make a bundle on casual gaming? At least the way I'm reading it; I don't see a Baldur's gate for iphone on the horizon.

Gift.
I don't see how a game like Baldur's Gate would work on an iPhone. It could definitely work on the iPad though. Still, the iPad costs more than the consoles so, fuck that.
 

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But... consoles are newer than PCs... and PCs still make money... and the iPhone isn't a gaming, well, anything.