BioWare "Considering" Calls for New Mass Effect 3 Ending

[Doug]

I'm fine with the ending I got, granted there's some questions unanswered for me, but it was good enough for my experience with it

Spoiler: speaking of the ending

I find it pretty silly of people saying that the "destroy the reapers" ending, which also kills the geth, is bad because they put so much effort into saving the geth only for them to be destroyed as well
it's not bad, it's the catch
you can save the galaxy from being exterminated but you will exterminate an entire race to do it

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I would agree with you, but the child-god thing does an extremely poor job of saying why it's necessary. In fact, -why- is it necessary? In fact, why can't you say to the child-god thing 'umm, hate to blow a bubble in your 'solution', but we managed to get the creators and the created to calm down and play nice with each other this cycle. I don't see you're logic as being proven'.

As for the Geth and EDI needing to die, why? How? Sure, he's bound to have some form of off switch for the Reapers for this very scenario, but how is he going to kill all Geth and EDI in a single go?

It's bad because the logic either isn't their at all, or is poorly described at best.

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dunno about EDI, a friend of mine did pretty much the same as I did, only that he chose other squad for the mission
he picked the destroy ending, and when the ship crash landed, EDI walked out of it, so yeah =P
also, you're right there, the holo-kid really is stupidly pointless
would've been redeemed if they, idk, put someone else instead of it, like an adult VI or some shit using Harbinger's voice
Harbinger's voice makes everything better

Spoiler

"Shepard, we are the Harbinger of your audit. We bring your financial rebalancing through destruction"

 

[Daystar Clarion]

I'm still a firm believer of the indoctrination theory.

If Bioware manage to pull off what I think they're pulling off, it will be awesome.

The trouble with the "indoctrination theory" is that it assumes that Bioware aren't the colossal retards they have shown themselves to be by first using then defending the ending that's in the game.

Well that's the whole point.

What better way to indoctrinate Shepard then making the player also believe that the ending is the 'true' ending.

 

[maninahat]

I'm not sure the Mona Lisa metaphor quite fits.
And Fappy had a point about not actually having paid for the painting.

Anyway. This is actually all I wanted. I'd like to see a new, better-written ending, but the fact that they're even just considering it based on feedback is completely satisfactory for me.

Even if he had paid for the painting, he doesn't actually get a say in how the painting should look. He isn't a major shareholder or a producer, and he didn't commission the painting or the game. So if he doesn't like the end product, tough. For his money, all he was entitled to was a Mass Effect game.

 

[Lunar Templar]

i would be impressed if all the whining to get to this point didn't seem so infantile,

congrats, trantruming 2 year olds, you got the toy .....

 

[maninahat]

I'm fine with the ending I got, granted there's some questions unanswered for me, but it was good enough for my experience with it

Spoiler: speaking of the ending

I find it pretty silly of people saying that the "destroy the reapers" ending, which also kills the geth, is bad because they put so much effort into saving the geth only for them to be destroyed as well
it's not bad, it's the catch
you can save the galaxy from being exterminated but you will exterminate an entire race to do it

Spoiler

I would agree with you, but the child-god thing does an extremely poor job of saying why it's necessary. In fact, -why- is it necessary? In fact, why can't you say to the child-god thing 'umm, hate to blow a bubble in your 'solution', but we managed to get the creators and the created to calm down and play nice with each other this cycle. I don't see you're logic as being proven'.

As for the Geth and EDI needing to die, why? How? Sure, he's bound to have some form of off switch for the Reapers for this very scenario, but how is he going to kill all Geth and EDI in a single go?

It's bad because the logic either isn't their at all, or is poorly described at best.

It might be a lousy defence, but I think Mass Effect has always been about finding silly excuses to throw dilemmas at you. They've never had any real logic behind the set up, its just mumbo jumbo used to set up the hard choices.

 

[goliath6711]

I am done.

I am officially and undeniably done with anything even remotely involved with this issue.

This is no longer something to be laughed at. This is no longer something to be pitied. This has officially crossed the line into lunatics trying to seize control of something they have absolutely no right or claim to. You're not some champion for the down-trotted. You're not some poor innocent mistreated consumer who is trying to fight back against the evil uncaring mega-corporation who's out to suck up as much money from their customers as possible. You're not some disgruntled fan who's merely expressing their displeasure at the ending of a series that you claim to love so much. You stopped being that the moment you thought it was a good idea to bring in the

FEDERAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TRADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

COMMISSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is even worse than this. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/3536-Going-Green-Part-II
At least DC was able to hold out against Hal's Emerald Attack Team (yeah, I'm still going to call them that) for 10 years. This doesn't look like it's going to last another 10 weeks. All I ask, Bioware, is that it not be mandatory so I can ignore it like the vile piece of pandering crap it is. Being able to completely ignore the stupider cases of clear and outright fan concessions is pretty much the only thing that saves this series for me.

If any of you out there don't understand why this demand for an ending change after the fact is such a colossal example of an spoiled brats throwing an over the top temper tantrum, then you're not going to understand and I'm not going to waste any more of my valuable time trying to make you understand.

I don't care how nonsensical the endings are. I don't care how many plot holes they create. I don't care how much or how I little they reflect your decisions. I don't care how ripped off you feel towards buying DLC that isn't mandatory to finish the single-player game (which is ironically what you're screaming for here essentially). I don't care if you don't get it. I don't care if you think that I don't get it. I don't care if you think I'm in EA and Bioware's pocket. I don't care if you think I'm just a blind fanboy. In fact, as far as Mass Effect goes, I'll wear that as a badge of honor. Because I when I encounter a particular issue I hate in a game that I otherwise like, I actually deal with it and refuse to let it ruin the entire game for me. For a long time I considered myself a Mass Effect fan that despises Mass Effect "fans".

So agree with me, disagree with me, I don't care. Just don't hold your breath waiting for a response. I'm seriously considering going over to the Bioware forums (since that's the epicenter of all this nonsense) and opening an account there just to more or less copy this (with some edits here and there for their forums). Oh, and for all of those who are gearing up to explain just how wrong I am, let me reiterate something that you clearly didn't catch the first time.

I. Don't. Care.

 

[krellen]

If you go see a movie, and don't like the ending, [.. d]o they give you your money back?

At most theatres? Yes, if you ask.

And Blu-Rays/Tapes/DVDs are imminently returnable.

The whole reason there's an outcry over this is that, unlike any other consumer product in the world, somehow video games have become unreturnable.

 

[Dalek Caan]

I just want to kill the Reapers and for my Shepard and Tali to be together to live out their lives on Rannoch. Happy endings are good endings.

 

[xchurchx]

I'm still a firm believer of the indoctrination theory.

If Bioware manage to pull off what I think they're pulling off, it will be awesome.

I think it would be silly for them not to run with it honestly. Most the work is done for them.

Of course, if they do run with it, prepare for a new firestorm of ME3 threads, this time with people gloating and calling all the haters of the original ending and/or indoctrination theory 'indoctrinated'. I'm all for them running with it, but I don't look forward to the Gaming Discussion forum being jammed up by ME3 threads for another month if this comes to pass.

And to think they could have avoided this all had they made 3 different endings and not 1 ending that is 95% the same and tweaked slightly 3 times. Weren't they originally bragging about having 16 different endings based on your actions, or did i just make that up?

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

I dont want no shitty added on fan pandering ending. I wont buy it or view it. Why would anyone want that?

 

[WanderingFool]

... but you don't paint a new smile on the Mona Lisa just because the original's a bit flat.

Except the guy that painted the Mona Lisa isnt around for us to complain about the flat smile.

Anyways, If they do add a new ending, I would prefer it to just be a simple refusal of the three choices. Something like whats here [http://arkis.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-3-Alternate-Endings-SPOILERS-289902125?moodonly=1]. Make all that crap we had to do in all three games mean something. That would probably be the most downloaded DLC pack in Bioware/EA history.

 

[DragonStorm247]

I thought everyone was overreacting. Then I saw the ending. The choices are sort of interesting on paper, but they are executed so poorly. One general cutscene that tries to blanket all the outcomes just isn't acceptable. I also would have liked to see Charm/Intimidate options available based on your Paragon/Renegade, decisions, and EMS. I also wanted a chance of failure, for the cycle to continue.

And did anyone else hate that child/catalyst/AI as much as I did. I so wish we could converse with Harbinger instead.

 

[Angnor]

You know, isn't not being happy with how the canon story works out what fan-fiction is for?

 

[IamGamer41]

Oh I am sure EA will be happy to sell you a alternative ending DLC pack...

For only ££££ you too can have a happy ending, and so can Sheppard *big toothy grin*.

Meh, I want royalties if someone uses that line in an advert.

If this happened.I would gladly buy it,play it,get closure and never buy another Bioware game again.As it stands now I have no need to replay thought ME3 or buy any of its DLC.

 

[viranimus]

Good lord.

This is getting out of control. Ive not even been able to play the thing yet and ive tried to avoid doing so until may when I will have the time to dedicate to it. But Bioware dont you dare cave to this pressure. It does not matter if the ending is truly the worst ending of any game anywhere, its what you created. Stand behind it, or else the court of public opinion will ruin every game we play and make the narrative in gaming as bland and regurgitated as everything on television for the last half century.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

I'm still a firm believer of the indoctrination theory.

If Bioware manage to pull off what I think they're pulling off, it will be awesome.

They already pulled it off. They have yours and everyone elses money. Thats it. Thats the plan.

What you thought it was about the art? It was never about the art, never about sheppard.

It was about the money.

God damn it, it was always about the money!!!!

 

[thelonewolf266]

I'm still a firm believer of the indoctrination theory.

If Bioware manage to pull off what I think they're pulling off, it will be awesome.

Agreed I think it would honestly change it from the worst ending ever to one of the most intelligent ways of ending a series I have ever seen.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

I'm still a firm believer of the indoctrination theory.

If Bioware manage to pull off what I think they're pulling off, it will be awesome.

They already pulled it off. They have yours and everyone elses money. Thats it. Thats the plan.

What you thought it was about the art? It was never about the art, never about sheppard.

It was about the money.

God damn it, it was always about the money!!!!

Hyperbole is fun, no?

We'll have to see what Bioware has up their sleeves.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

I'm still a firm believer of the indoctrination theory.

If Bioware manage to pull off what I think they're pulling off, it will be awesome.

Agreed I think it would honestly change it form the worst ending ever to one of the most intelligent ways of ending a series I have ever seen.

Only if they follow through with it though, and only if it's free.

Anything less will be seen as lazy storytelling/a blatant cash grab.

 

[thelonewolf266]

I'm still a firm believer of the indoctrination theory.

If Bioware manage to pull off what I think they're pulling off, it will be awesome.

Agreed I think it would honestly change it form the worst ending ever to one of the most intelligent ways of ending a series I have ever seen.

Only if they follow through with it though, and only if it's free.

Anything less will be seen as lazy storytelling/a blatant cash grab.

True.Also no matter what they do that shameless plug for DLC at the end of the game is always going to seem a bit cheap.