BioWare "Falsely Advertised" Mass Effect 3
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I'm by no means a fat masturbating loser, and I fucked my girlfriend last night, and this morning before heading to work, and I lived in Afghanistan and Iraq for 8 years while deployed in the while in the army as a ranger, and yes life in a lot of ways sucked ass, but I fail to see the relevance to how customers feel cheated towards an investment(paying money for a product expecting a certain experience is an investment) Yes things are worse elsewhere but if you want to bend over and take it up the ass from these corporate dicks after failing to deliver what they advertised that's your problem. If you don't like the fact that others are complaining about thier investment, then simply ignore it. Bitching about people Bitching is just fucken retarded.Batsamaritan said:
AnarchistAbe said:
Zeel? Is that you? I've missed you!AnarchistAbe said:
Casey Hudson and one writer created the ending themselves with no oversight. Those are the "writers" that I have an issue with.Kazedarkwind said:
I do feel pretty bad for the people who weren't involved with the ending who are catching flak over it.
Oh, and these made me giggle:
The Great JT said:
songnar said:
Is it too late to get Bioware for false advertisement of Dragon Age 2 as well? It was a hack-n-slash/beat-em-up marketed as a fantasy RPG epic after all.
and the fact that (upon further examination) it looks like shepard "wakes up" on earth....(concrete and such, not futureistic metal)Kopikatsu said:
THATs the thing that stands out
shepards tough..but he/she is hardly going to survise the citadel exploding and the re-entry
Thank you, Andy, for providing us with an article that has brought nothing new to the table. Oh no, you guys, turns out everyone who disagreed with Retake is wrong cause the BBB office in NORTHERN INDIANA said it's false advertising.
One woman feels the "outcome" is defined entirely by 5 minutes of a 90+ hr. series, and therefore this constitutes a breach of a broadly worded advertising campaign because ALL (If my eyes roll any harder while typing this word, my retinas might detach) complaints are the same.
She hasn't answered any of the counterpoints about the "promise that our decisions would affect the outcome and the experience." Mainly, that the state of the universe is EXACTLY dependent on everything the player does, and whether or not you feel the end result of said universe truly constitutes the ending is pretty determinant of which side of the fence you're on in this debate.
I say it's high time the mods start banning anyone who starts a thread with the words "Mass Effect" in them (even if it's for 1 or 2), and any article on ME3 gets a red light unless it's something shockingly new and relevant.
Fuck me, Diablo 3 needs to get here quick so we can ***** about something else.
One woman feels the "outcome" is defined entirely by 5 minutes of a 90+ hr. series, and therefore this constitutes a breach of a broadly worded advertising campaign because ALL (If my eyes roll any harder while typing this word, my retinas might detach) complaints are the same.
She hasn't answered any of the counterpoints about the "promise that our decisions would affect the outcome and the experience." Mainly, that the state of the universe is EXACTLY dependent on everything the player does, and whether or not you feel the end result of said universe truly constitutes the ending is pretty determinant of which side of the fence you're on in this debate.
I say it's high time the mods start banning anyone who starts a thread with the words "Mass Effect" in them (even if it's for 1 or 2), and any article on ME3 gets a red light unless it's something shockingly new and relevant.
Fuck me, Diablo 3 needs to get here quick so we can ***** about something else.
Let's look up what the word "outcome" means, shall we? Because it does mean "An end result; a consequence." Fancy that, the "end result" of all playthroughs being entirely detached from the individual player's decisions makes the "outcome" not "completely" dependent on the player's decisions.irishda said:
You mean the part where no matter what you do you get to choose between (at most) three endings, which are really just pallet-swaps of each other? Yep, that end result sure does depend on your decisions.irishda said:
"I don't want to hear about this stuff anymore, but I can't be bothered to not click on the links"irishda said:
Talk about entitled.
Darkmantle said:
THAT controversy was way more fucking stupid than the ending in my eyes.
"Ooo, they couldn't even be bothered to create a picture of a fucking alien whose fictional society, including their customs and biology, they made up from scratch without reworking an old photo. Shows how lazy they are..."
You have not been listening to the complaints much have you?AnarchistAbe said:
Or maybe you don't care, either way it is clear you do not know what you're talking about here.
1. Having had sex fairly recently, I can say that it has little relevance on my disappointment with the Mass Effect 3 debacle. I'm not sure where you got the idea that sex was somehow involved in the disappointment here, but I think you might need to take a look at an anatomy textbook, since the penis is in no way involved in playing most video games.Batsamaritan said:
2. Yes, there are people worse off than anyone who was disappointed in Mass Effect 3. So what? Are you saying that you never complain about anything in the world, or try to make it better, on the basis that it's not as bad as other people have it?
You never ask for a raise, because you make more than some other people, right? You never ask for time off, because some people don't get any time off.
Right?
I'm still a fan. Ten awful minutes cannot ruin 120 (increased a ton by multiple playthroughs, which brings the total to more like 1200) hours of greatness in the series. It's impossible. Hell, I still say it's my favorite game series.zumbledum said:well past tense maybeDustyDrB said:think there an endangered species now
You mean kind of like how in your life the sole outcome is that you will be dead no matter what choices you've made in life? And yet your existence will be defined by the state of your life as it was when it ended and not just the fact that no matter what you do you don't even GET to choose your ending. Gee, sounds like everyone's life is exactly the same since we only get ONE ending ourselves: dead.Seldon2639 said:
Hey, you're right. Lemme start a thread about something else. Oh, wait, now it's buried under a massive pile of Mass Effect threads. How sad.
I can't believe I'm actually reading this argument. The game parallels real-life so that it makes it okay?irishda said:
And that means it's going to be instantly ignored by the other people who don't want to talk about Mass Effect?irishda said:
Hopefully you've noticed I've highlighted the important parts. Although I should really clarify so let me add on to thatLovely Mixture said:
In other words, if you replace "your life" with "the game's story", you'll see a reason why not all of us feel that an A,B,C ending means all of your decisions throughout the game are meaningless.
"Stephens' proclamation carries no legal weight but it'll probably make a lot of aggrieved fans feel a little better about the whole thing"
Let me be perfectly clear: NOTHING will make most of these "fans" feel better. The ones who weren't frothing at the mouth and spewing vitriol and death threats? They'll probably be fine with the DLC. But the others? The ones that were? They don't WANT to "feel better," they want to thrash, rage, whine and have their voices heard as though they were making valid points. They're the ones complaining about the FREE multiplayer DLC, they're the ones who would've complained EXACTLY as loud if there HAD been the boilerplate, straightforward ending they claim to want. They would have claimed that Bioware was just caving into EA pressure to homogenize the experience and make it as palatable to as many people as possible. NOTHING will make these people happy, and I hope Bioware realizes that.
Let me be perfectly clear: NOTHING will make most of these "fans" feel better. The ones who weren't frothing at the mouth and spewing vitriol and death threats? They'll probably be fine with the DLC. But the others? The ones that were? They don't WANT to "feel better," they want to thrash, rage, whine and have their voices heard as though they were making valid points. They're the ones complaining about the FREE multiplayer DLC, they're the ones who would've complained EXACTLY as loud if there HAD been the boilerplate, straightforward ending they claim to want. They would have claimed that Bioware was just caving into EA pressure to homogenize the experience and make it as palatable to as many people as possible. NOTHING will make these people happy, and I hope Bioware realizes that.
I think the reason people are upset is because games are always marketing all these different options and choices, people have simply had enough of being told things and not getting them. Mass Effect is just the unlucky flashpoint that cops all this rage and hate.AnarchistAbe said:
Honestly I think they (along with every other company that pulls this crap) is deserving of the piles being dumped on them. You keep pissing on peoples good natures and they will snap eventually.
Personally I think its great people are complaining, it shows people wont just accept shoddy craftsmanship. Game companies now need to lift their game if they want people to buy their product. As it is with every company and industry, I dont know why game companies think they are above all this, especially as it is becoming more popular and mainstream.
I get where you're coming from though, this could cause game companies to close up and play safe. If they do then good, it will give other studios an oppertunity to rise and become great developers.
Disagree with the entitlement thing though, if someone advertises something and you dont get it (and this is hardly an isolated incident) then it is your duty as a consumer to complain, cant have progress without a few bruised ego's unfortunately :/