BioWare Responds to Mass Effect 3 Day-One DLC on Disc
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Where the hell did that come from?The.Bard said:
Also, this makes sense, im still cool with it.
Tell me, are you allowed to drive a car without a license or drive in the HOV lane with only a single passenger simply because it is feasible to do so?
That's right. Shut up! Stop complaining that your $60 purchase is an unfinished product! Keep consuming! Keep buying things! Don't question our logic!The.Bard said:
How about this Bioware... How about I just hold off on buying the game until you get your act together and release 'Mass Effect 3: The Entire Fucking Game Edition'. Then you can have my money...
Actually, this comparison would be more accurate if the person was complaining that their car had a spot in the dash for a high-quality stereo system that they didn't pay for, saying "WHY WOULD YOU HAVE ROOM FOR A STEREO THERE IF I DIDN'T PAY FOR ONE, OBVIOUSLY IF THERE'S A SPOT FOR A STEREO I SHOULD GET A STEREO FOR FREE"Crono1973 said:
No no no, It is like if the quality stereo was already wired in .. nice speakers and all, but the little on/off switch wasn't on your dashboard.Zachery Gaskins said:
You have paid extra money for speakers and wires, development, design and installation time, but are not going to be able to use it unless you fork over 16,6% extra for the little nob. So no! Bad EA! Day-1-DLC proves that I get a less than 100% product.
Then ultimately it comes down to a matter of personal taste - do you feel that a stereo is an essential part of your car? If you do, then be prepared to 1) pay more for cars in general (i.e. $80 games), or 2) explain to a portion of the car-buying public why there's this unnecessary box in their car they didn't want yet were forced to buy.JeppeH said:
Because let's face it - people spent man-hours developing that DLC, and you can't ask them to not get paid for that effort simply because you don't believe in it. I understand your underlying distrust in EA / Bioware management, but as a software developer, every time the consumer public craps all over a game because of what is likely a business decision it makes me feel like the guys chin-deep in the game code are being disrespected for the work they do, which is entertaining people. They are artists, and artists just want to be allowed to eat / sleep / enjoy life the same way others do. Management won't see a drop in sales as a criticism on their business practices, they'll see it as a misjudging of consumer demand and make less/different games. That hurts us all.
True, if your only point is to file a general complaint and throw a hissy fit that you want the DLC for free, then yes, you may gripe freely. Preferably somewhere else, but if that's the plan, knowledge is not required.Crono1973 said:
Sadly, that isn't the case here. Many good, smart people, such as yourself, are taking pieces of information and tying them together into something you want to see. A piece of this was on the disc, THEREFORE they must have ripped it out. Accusations are being thrown around without facts to back them up. If THAT is what is being complained about, then yes, you need to know more than one tiny modicum of information on how game development works if you don't want to look foolish, such as by comparing completely optional dlc to a set of requisite brakes on a car.
Ah yes, that chart. I remember seeing it get bashed down for being so incredibly retarded. I mean, we all know if the team doesn't work on Day 1 DLC after the bulk of the game is finished, their asses will be fired faster than you can say Gaben. I mean, look at the masses of teams that got laid off before every single video game was released. It's a shame they didn't have the all knowing mind of EA to guide them through the only correct process of making a video game.
Plenty of companies manage to release a full game WITHOUT all the DLC bullshit.
The Witcher 2 was made by a small company, and they gave out loads of free DLC.
And yet Bioware, backed by EA's monolithic funding, is unable.
Bioware just feels entitled to extra money and manipulates idiots with half-truths and by trying to play the victim.
Please. PLEASE. Stop trying to defend them. Stop spouting their PR talk.
If you keep defending these greedy practices, they will never improve. They will keep pushing.
Stand against it, and do us all (yourself included) a giant favor.
The Witcher 2 was made by a small company, and they gave out loads of free DLC.
And yet Bioware, backed by EA's monolithic funding, is unable.
Bioware just feels entitled to extra money and manipulates idiots with half-truths and by trying to play the victim.
Please. PLEASE. Stop trying to defend them. Stop spouting their PR talk.
If you keep defending these greedy practices, they will never improve. They will keep pushing.
Stand against it, and do us all (yourself included) a giant favor.
once again this is degrading into people angrily stamping their feet. That chart does indeed sum up how the majority of game development works. Nothing is as clear cut as the fundamentalist view way too many gamers seem to operate on