Yes sir Mr. David Vonderhaar sir! Do you think we should buy all the downloadable maps so that you can get more money too? Of course sir! Stupid of me to ask sir!
Black Ops II Designer Thinks Gamers "Should All Play Multiplayer"
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"PLAY MULTIPLAYER ONLY YOU BASTARDS!!! ALL THE TIME!!! NEVER ENDING ONLINE FESTGARBLEARBLEARGH!!!!!!!!"
I do play COD mulitplayer, I've even enjoyed it-but I also love single player. I will play BLOPS 2's multiplayer but don't think for a second that's the sole reason I'm getting it.
Captcha: "Create new things"-in a COD game? Ho ho!
I do play COD mulitplayer, I've even enjoyed it-but I also love single player. I will play BLOPS 2's multiplayer but don't think for a second that's the sole reason I'm getting it.
Captcha: "Create new things"-in a COD game? Ho ho!
Yup, it's that time again. Time for the CoD hate-train to leave the station, loaded with the same tired, incorrect complaints as last time, and the time before that.
Every CoD thread makes me glad you people don't play the game, because if I had to listen to your bullshit while trying to enjoy a game I like, or even for the 3 seconds before I mute you, I'd fucking hang myself.
Every CoD thread makes me glad you people don't play the game, because if I had to listen to your bullshit while trying to enjoy a game I like, or even for the 3 seconds before I mute you, I'd fucking hang myself.
At what point did the presence of bots in multiplayer (even local) fall out of favor? I remember some of the best times I ever had playing FPS games as a kid were on one of the James Bond games for Gamecube, Nightfire I think it was. Myself and a couple of friends would make a game with us and bots and just go to town for hours, when did this stop being a feature? This may just be nostalgia talking but that was freaking awesome!
As someone with some minor anxiety problems from interacting with people, multiplayer makes me uncomfortable and makes the game less fun for me to play. I hate that game creators seem to be forcing me to interact with total strangers when all I want to do is play a freaking game. So, shove off, ya prick.
There are no multiplayer chievos in COD (not counting Zombies). As far as I know there have never been any.Sniper Team 4 said:
Apart from that, I never did understand ppl. that bought Cod for its campaign. I also don't get why ppl. here are making such a fuss about the statement. The developers feel they worked hard on the online component and want ppl. to have fun with it. No reason to f them off or call for shotguns to the face. Jebus, overreact much?
I'll say this as someone who enjoyed both the multiplayer and single player aspects of Modern Warfare 3, and as a fan of Team Fortress 2.
It's not for everyone. People who don't get used to the mechanics or are fast enough get killed quickly, and people can get sick of it if they die enough times. The determined ones would grind for hours, but a lot of people will just through the Multiplayer portion aside and either go for the Single-Player game or another game entirely.
Plus, some people just want a decent story, and multiplayer doesn't present a story the same way as single player. Sure, you've got Left 4 Dead and Zombie mode in the Treyarch CoD games, but the fact that it's multiplayer imposes various restrictions on how to tell the story. It's not as cinematic and parts of it may have to be rushed; hindering the overall storyline.
Additionally, some people are happy with playing a game themselves, and you can't force them to do otherwise.
And I think the push for socially integrated games is detrimental to the genre as a whole. Look at the multiplayer-Sim City reboot coming out next year; while they let you play alone much of the game's economy is affected by all the players in the game. Plus, the imposing of multiplayer forced the Game Devs remove elements of the game that made the previous Sim City fun, i.e. terraforming, certain transportation options, and the ability to build large megacities.
Another example? Spec Ops: The Line. It's IMO one of the finest single-player stories since Bioshock, and while it wasn't perfect, it might've been better if the devs weren't forced to focus part of their efforts on the game's multiplayer portion, which even one of the Developers labeled as trash. There are games that only need a single-player mode and nothing more, and cramming a multiplayer mode into them will hinder more than help.
I'm not condemning multiplayer of course. I'm all for harmony between multiplayers and single-player games, and I think neither can possibly replace the other. To each to his own preferred style of play, and you can't force them to change their tastes.
To be fair, this is just one single line from a single person from Treyarch, so I think people are either rolling it into something exaggerated, or taking it out of context. Hopefully Vonderhaar will clarify his statements.
It's not for everyone. People who don't get used to the mechanics or are fast enough get killed quickly, and people can get sick of it if they die enough times. The determined ones would grind for hours, but a lot of people will just through the Multiplayer portion aside and either go for the Single-Player game or another game entirely.
Plus, some people just want a decent story, and multiplayer doesn't present a story the same way as single player. Sure, you've got Left 4 Dead and Zombie mode in the Treyarch CoD games, but the fact that it's multiplayer imposes various restrictions on how to tell the story. It's not as cinematic and parts of it may have to be rushed; hindering the overall storyline.
Additionally, some people are happy with playing a game themselves, and you can't force them to do otherwise.
And I think the push for socially integrated games is detrimental to the genre as a whole. Look at the multiplayer-Sim City reboot coming out next year; while they let you play alone much of the game's economy is affected by all the players in the game. Plus, the imposing of multiplayer forced the Game Devs remove elements of the game that made the previous Sim City fun, i.e. terraforming, certain transportation options, and the ability to build large megacities.
Another example? Spec Ops: The Line. It's IMO one of the finest single-player stories since Bioshock, and while it wasn't perfect, it might've been better if the devs weren't forced to focus part of their efforts on the game's multiplayer portion, which even one of the Developers labeled as trash. There are games that only need a single-player mode and nothing more, and cramming a multiplayer mode into them will hinder more than help.
I'm not condemning multiplayer of course. I'm all for harmony between multiplayers and single-player games, and I think neither can possibly replace the other. To each to his own preferred style of play, and you can't force them to change their tastes.
To be fair, this is just one single line from a single person from Treyarch, so I think people are either rolling it into something exaggerated, or taking it out of context. Hopefully Vonderhaar will clarify his statements.
inb4: people not reading the article.
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on't knock it until you try it I enjoyed the multiplayer in the first couple modern warfare games and while not as much in the newer versions I think its worth at least playing till level 5 so you understand what everyone is talking about.
But good job Escapist you really put that quote in poor context.
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on't knock it until you try it I enjoyed the multiplayer in the first couple modern warfare games and while not as much in the newer versions I think its worth at least playing till level 5 so you understand what everyone is talking about.But good job Escapist you really put that quote in poor context.
Just more evidence that Activision and the CoD developers hate the player, only care about their money, and want to dictate what you do with the product you paid for. But don't worry sir, I'm not buying your game at all so you don't need to worry about me missing out on your shitty multiplayer. But feel free to hang out with all the racist, sexist, foul-mouth pre-teens that your series has brought in to online gaming.
As many people have said, get better people in your multiplayer. I see a drastic difference between the Counter Strike multiplayer and the CoD Multiplayer.
CoD's Multiplayer when you die: LOL, ******, YOU CANT PLAY THIS GAME YOU NOOB!
Counter Strike's Multiplayer when you die: You just have to get used to the kickback, it takes a while to get used to the kickback. Keep going.
CoD's Multiplayer when you die: LOL, ******, YOU CANT PLAY THIS GAME YOU NOOB!
Counter Strike's Multiplayer when you die: You just have to get used to the kickback, it takes a while to get used to the kickback. Keep going.
CD Projekt Red?Gearhead mk2 said:
On Topic: I guess I can kind of see where he is coming from. Here they spend two years making the game and some gamers(like myself) only play the single player and never play the multiplayer. At the same time though he needs to understand that not everyone likes multiplayer.
This is actually pretty creepy.
COD's multiplayer is very bizarre. It activates the reptilian part of the brain due to it's vicious "Kill-Die-Respawn" pattern. It's very fast-paced, incredibly chaotic, etc. The world wouldn't be healthy if "every gamer played COD multiplayer". Addictive, very low vibration/frequency activity. Like Counterstrike, but worse.
I think people need to ask themselves why it's even possible for it to "bug the shit out of" the designers. I mean really.
COD's multiplayer is very bizarre. It activates the reptilian part of the brain due to it's vicious "Kill-Die-Respawn" pattern. It's very fast-paced, incredibly chaotic, etc. The world wouldn't be healthy if "every gamer played COD multiplayer". Addictive, very low vibration/frequency activity. Like Counterstrike, but worse.
I think people need to ask themselves why it's even possible for it to "bug the shit out of" the designers. I mean really.
Another misleading title Escapist? Becoming more and more like Kotaku every day it seems.
I wonder...are the articles getting more sensationalist titles because the comments are more retarded? Or are the comments more retarded because the titles are sensationalist? Perhaps it's some sort of vicious cycle where one cannot exist without the other.
I wonder...are the articles getting more sensationalist titles because the comments are more retarded? Or are the comments more retarded because the titles are sensationalist? Perhaps it's some sort of vicious cycle where one cannot exist without the other.
It's incredible how much out of context news can get. I think everyone should read the original interview and see if they can even find the passage quoted here. I took me quite a while.
Yes he said that as part of a reason to include a training mode, he also talked about a bunch of other things. I wonder how Escapist writers would react if they were quoted in the same way.
It bugs the shit out of me when news outlets twist words like that.
Yes he said that as part of a reason to include a training mode, he also talked about a bunch of other things. I wonder how Escapist writers would react if they were quoted in the same way.
It bugs the shit out of me when news outlets twist words like that.
have to say the kill streaks are what killed it for me. it got to the point where people aren't even using guns anymore, its predator missiles, gun drones, helicopters that paint the enemies red for you and nukes that auto-win the match that everyone is now using. plus the games drag on forever especially if everyone employs the camp for kills strategy, the only worse online mode to me is gears of war where its even slower!
i've fallen back on online competitive gaming and now play either Transformers or Space Marine as the combat is fast and furious.
what happened to all the fast pace games, even UT2007 had gotten slower. there seems to be no arcade shooters anymore.
i've fallen back on online competitive gaming and now play either Transformers or Space Marine as the combat is fast and furious.
what happened to all the fast pace games, even UT2007 had gotten slower. there seems to be no arcade shooters anymore.