Black Ops II Designer Thinks Gamers "Should All Play Multiplayer"

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FeralDynasty

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At what point did the presence of bots in multiplayer (even local) fall out of favor? I remember some of the best times I ever had playing FPS games as a kid were on one of the James Bond games for Gamecube, Nightfire I think it was. Myself and a couple of friends would make a game with us and bots and just go to town for hours, when did this stop being a feature? This may just be nostalgia talking but that was freaking awesome!
 

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As someone with some minor anxiety problems from interacting with people, multiplayer makes me uncomfortable and makes the game less fun for me to play. I hate that game creators seem to be forcing me to interact with total strangers when all I want to do is play a freaking game. So, shove off, ya prick.
 

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Sniper Team 4 said:
And it bugs the shit out of me that you included a multiplayer trophy that says I have to get to level 50. So we can't all have what we want, can we? I'll play your multiplayer, but not because I want to. Because I have to. You had it right in Black Ops: one or two trophies for multiplayer that were easy to obtain. Then, if the player decided they liked it, they could keep playing of their own free will. Now, with the trophy that says you must Prestige once, I'm forced to play it all the way to the end. And if sniping someone still takes two to three shots like it did in Black Ops, I'm not going to enjoy it.
There are no multiplayer chievos in COD (not counting Zombies). As far as I know there have never been any.

Apart from that, I never did understand ppl. that bought Cod for its campaign. I also don't get why ppl. here are making such a fuss about the statement. The developers feel they worked hard on the online component and want ppl. to have fun with it. No reason to f them off or call for shotguns to the face. Jebus, overreact much?
 

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inb4: people not reading the article.
I have arrived to late...

OT:Don't knock it until you try it I enjoyed the multiplayer in the first couple modern warfare games and while not as much in the newer versions I think its worth at least playing till level 5 so you understand what everyone is talking about.
But good job Escapist you really put that quote in poor context.
 

darron13

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AHAHAHAHA no. Not everyone likes multiplayer, especially (at least in CoD's case) when most of it's players seem to be homophobic 12 year olds.
 

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Just more evidence that Activision and the CoD developers hate the player, only care about their money, and want to dictate what you do with the product you paid for. But don't worry sir, I'm not buying your game at all so you don't need to worry about me missing out on your shitty multiplayer. But feel free to hang out with all the racist, sexist, foul-mouth pre-teens that your series has brought in to online gaming.
 

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As many people have said, get better people in your multiplayer. I see a drastic difference between the Counter Strike multiplayer and the CoD Multiplayer.
CoD's Multiplayer when you die: LOL, ******, YOU CANT PLAY THIS GAME YOU NOOB!
Counter Strike's Multiplayer when you die: You just have to get used to the kickback, it takes a while to get used to the kickback. Keep going.
 

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Imagine if other medias did this.

"It bugs the shit out of me that people who enjoy true crime won't read sci-fi," - Writer

It's just ridiculous, and feels frankly like he's annoyed that some people don't enjoy that which he worked on.
 

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...is there a single freaking person in the game industry with common sense!?

And before anyone says Valve, if they had common sense, TF2 would actually be a game instead of a hat sim.
CD Projekt Red?

On Topic: I guess I can kind of see where he is coming from. Here they spend two years making the game and some gamers(like myself) only play the single player and never play the multiplayer. At the same time though he needs to understand that not everyone likes multiplayer.
 

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This is actually pretty creepy.

COD's multiplayer is very bizarre. It activates the reptilian part of the brain due to it's vicious "Kill-Die-Respawn" pattern. It's very fast-paced, incredibly chaotic, etc. The world wouldn't be healthy if "every gamer played COD multiplayer". Addictive, very low vibration/frequency activity. Like Counterstrike, but worse.

I think people need to ask themselves why it's even possible for it to "bug the shit out of" the designers. I mean really.
 

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Another misleading title Escapist? Becoming more and more like Kotaku every day it seems.

I wonder...are the articles getting more sensationalist titles because the comments are more retarded? Or are the comments more retarded because the titles are sensationalist? Perhaps it's some sort of vicious cycle where one cannot exist without the other.
 

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It's incredible how much out of context news can get. I think everyone should read the original interview and see if they can even find the passage quoted here. I took me quite a while.

Yes he said that as part of a reason to include a training mode, he also talked about a bunch of other things. I wonder how Escapist writers would react if they were quoted in the same way.

It bugs the shit out of me when news outlets twist words like that.
 

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have to say the kill streaks are what killed it for me. it got to the point where people aren't even using guns anymore, its predator missiles, gun drones, helicopters that paint the enemies red for you and nukes that auto-win the match that everyone is now using. plus the games drag on forever especially if everyone employs the camp for kills strategy, the only worse online mode to me is gears of war where its even slower!

i've fallen back on online competitive gaming and now play either Transformers or Space Marine as the combat is fast and furious.

what happened to all the fast pace games, even UT2007 had gotten slower. there seems to be no arcade shooters anymore.
 

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If their multiplayer wasn't so full of prepubescent racists and unbalanced mechanics, maybe I would play it.
 

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The first Black Ops had Combat Training. But I think it's fair to be annoyed people aren't playing the multiplayer. In the same way as I would be annoyed if I'd spent all my effort making a realistic pinball machine in an open world game and nobody played it. But then again, it is a pinball machine...in an open world game. ie. there are plenty of other things to do in the game. Don't complain if people do them. You put them there.
 

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After skipping 3 COD games, while the last one made me figure out "Holy shit I hate playing with these people", I was actually sort of thinking about MAYBE picking up the game a while after it comes out, whenever I have some extra money around. You sir, just lost yourself another customer by being a complete ass hat. I hate Activisions guts and I was actually considering to purchase the next one. And yes, I prefer Single player and Co-op way more then Multiplayer. Still, I do enjoy them from time to time, and COD 4 and MW2 have good memories, specially with the campaign and the Spec ops mode for Modern warfare 2, which was REALLY fun with friends. Now, I rather save my $60 for something else. Don't tell me what to play and not play, and if you're trying to advertise for that bland multiplayer, start by not being a total asshole.
 

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Buretsu said:
Bostur said:
It's incredible how much out of context news can get. I think everyone should read the original interview and see if they can even find the passage quoted here. I took me quite a while.

Yes he said that as part of a reason to include a training mode, he also talked about a bunch of other things. I wonder how Escapist writers would react if they were quoted in the same way.

It bugs the shit out of me when news outlets twist words like that.
Do you have the link to the original interview? I can't find anything that puts his "bugs the shit" comment in greater context.
http://oneofswords.com/2012/09/in-deeper-with-call-of-duty-black-ops-ii-multiplayer/

It's at the bottom of the page, right before the permalink.
 

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What a fucking retarded statement to make. Newsflash, some of us prefer singleplayer over multiplayer. Some of us don't like multiplayer at all. To claim that anyone *should* do ANYTHING is asinine, but this takes the cake.
 

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And here I thought the game looked somewhat interesting for a while. Well, now I'm never going to touch this game's multiplayer if I ever do get it, just so I can continue bugging the shit out of Treyarch. Which means I'll also be waiting for a major price drop. Which, knowing Activision, will never arrive.