Black Ops Swastika Emblems Will Earn Xbox Live Ban

[wigglysasquatch]

Shouldn't you be focusing on banning people who draw dicks with the fucking emblem creator?

A-Fucking-men
If anyone ever wants to see the creativity that the human mind is capable of give them a bunch of shapes and see how many different types of dicks they make. I was astounded not by just the volume but the variations.

 

[JDKJ]

It's kinda ironic that you would use pragmatism to sell your position. It was also pragmatism that was used to sell, from among the competing proposed solutions, the Final Solution. It's tangential at best, yes, but nevertheless noteworthy.

...

I am honestly amazed you went there. Clearly this rather short exchange of ours just went from "let's discuss the issue" to "let's see how I can make the other guy seem like a Nazi." I'm not interested in playing that game. Enjoy the rest of your day.

If you want to take it in that sense -- a sense in which it wasn't all intended -- then, fine and dandy. Suit yourself. But if you also expect me to give you an E-Z Pass on your "greatest good for the greatest number" argument and blithely ignore that "greatest good for the greatest number" frequently results in the greatest bad for the smallest number (see, e.g., the Final Solution), then that's not your choice to make. That choice is mine to make. And I choose not to give you any E-Z Pass on the matter.

You realize I'm talking about emblems on Black Ops, right? What is the "greatest bad" you're warning about? Some yahoos can't use a swastika on a game? I am tearing up as I write this, such is my sadness.

I'm actually offended that you would bring up the Holocaust as some sort of perverted example of pragmatism and then suggest that my view is in any way related. This connection you're making is a fallacy, a red herring that distracts from what we were talking about. The fact that I even have to devote this paragraph to dealing with it is ridiculous. The fact that you haven't backed down from that line of thought is what's convinced me that our former discussion has ended. If you'd like me to spar with you in this half-assed tangent, I'd be happy to oblige when I have some more free time later and I could use a laugh.

You're actually offended? Well, here, let me show you a measure of your own empathy and sympathy: I really give a rat's ass that you're offended and I am tearing up as I write this, such is my sadness. I guess you'll just have to endure this painful, painful time. My heart goes out to you.

You've clearly mastered the art of sarcasm. Bravo! Too bad there's not much market for those particular skills.

 

[8-Bit Grin]

So a horse having his dick cut off with a chainsaw is fine but a swastika is banned.

... Really?

Somebody thought it would be funny to have a horse being emasculated as their personal symbol?

To each their own, maybe?

 

[Halceon]

Stupid Nazis. Why did you have to ruin the swastika for everyone else?

Imagine how awkward it'd be if they used a cross for their symbol

Spoiler: Yeah, it is good that they didn't

 

[sheah1]

Yeah I must agree, it just seems so terribly distasteful whenever I see it.

 

[The Robotman]

Toulouse is a tool. You let us slaughter the Vietnamese, infiltrate and destroy a Russian missile base, and kill, (a double I know but come on) Castro..
But no swastika? What happened to freedom of speech in America, let alone freedom of player choice in the videogame spectrum. Because, come on, it's just a video game.
Right?

 

[Kiregan]

Really now? You want to ban swastikas? They can mean a bunch of different things, you know? Like that buddhist symbol, or how about the finnish airforce's flag. They usually don't look alike, either. So do you want to ban David's Star too, because christians might find it offensive because the jews killed Jesus? Or the other way around, as in ban the christian cross because it symbolises Jesus; who is a fake messiah in the jews opinions? I'm kinda making stupid points, but I'm a bit frustrated right now...
I still could kinda understand if someone used the nazi swastika specifically, you know with the red background and all. But banning someone for using the finnish airforce flag, for example, which looks nothing like the nazi swastika, is just stupid.

Comparison:
Nazi swastika:

Spoiler

http://koti.mbnet.fi/jeresa/kuvii/swastika-bangon-750683.jpg

Finnish Airforce flag:

Spoiler

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Finland_Air_force.gif

Oh, and there's no finnish flag for emblem backgrounds this time. Way to go Treyarch. -_-

 

[JWRosser]

Ya, ban them. I don't want to be reminded of the wrongs of WWII while I'm busy gunning down people with my assault rifle.

Ha.


I can see why they did it to be honest - I mean, the likelihood of someone using the swastika for it's original meaning is very rare. We all know that most people are twats, and will therefore being using the swastika "for the lols".

Not that I myself am touchy about it.

Though like GoodApprentice implied, it is quite funny that this is banned on a war game. I mean, killing Russians, Cubans, VC and Brits is fine, BUT IF ANYONE MENTIONS ANYTHING ABOUT NAZIS WE WILL HUNT YOU DOWN AND BAN YOU.
(not that I agree with what the Nazis did; I'm just making a point)

 

[The Robotman]

Treyarch did a shitty job with COD: Black Ops anyways. The online is laggy and glitches on the constant, and zombies you can only upgrade once..
What the hell happened to innovation and new ideas? Nothing feels new here, and never will for the COD series, as long as they keep following this path of release and re-patch. No one buys a fucking 60 dollar game so they can play an incomplete mess..
Which it is.

 

[Christemo]

Absolutely ridiculous. The Swastskika is already all over that game, let's just ban COD all together!

true.

Spoiler

you literally have to invade a remote german encampment guarding a sample of the most deadly human-made toxin in history.

 

[WestMountain]

To be fair, the Nazis only committed one of the most heinous crimes in recorded human history.

really? I would say thee most notorious, I mean how many people were killed due to Alexander and his army? what about Stalin?

Stalin for the most part killed his own people so did Mao and several dictators today. But Hitler and the Nazi party oversaw the systematic persecution, collection, and attempted eradication of an entire race. Not for political difference or any crimes other than the fact they were a specific race or an "undesirable."

The swastika is an ancient symbol but the tilting at an angle and putting it on a white and red background makes it clear they were thinking of Nazism when they made it. I can see how it'd be offensive and I just find it annoying and unimaginative, but I don't think an insta ban is that necessary could just put a lock on their layers to like 3 so they couldn't make anything that ornate.

Well the Nazis did the killing for the greater good they thought, in their minds they were saving mankind from the "evil" jews.

Stalin and the rest of the dictators that killed loads of people did it for power and control over people for their own selfish needs.

Therefore I think that what the Nazis did is more "okay" than what Stalin & co did.

Damn. I gotta thank you. What you just posted and I therefore was able to read has completely justified my time spent here. It's kinda like if I spent all day up in a deer stand and didn't see a single deer but did see a chupacabra running across a field, then my time spent in the deer stand wasn't at all a complete waste of time.

Thanks.

Do I detect a bit of sarcasm in that post?...

If not, thanks for the kind words :]

 

[Captain Bobbossa]

If only Notch would do the same thing. I can only drop the banhammer so many times...

agreed

 

[Phokal]

To be fair, the Nazis only committed one of the most heinous crimes in recorded human history.
That's probably going to be its default/commonly known context from now until doomsday.

The ban isn't unreasonable at all, and most people who use it will be doing so to troll.
Unless you think most 12-24 year olds actually understand the history and nature of the symbol prior to WW2.
Yeah...not fucking likely.

This. Anyone doing this isn't doing it out of respect of an alternate image. They are trolling. It's common sense.

Maybe if you could link your real name and face to it; then I'd be ok letting them put up whatever imagery they want, just as long as the user publicly owns up to what they are doing.

 

[mr_rubino]

Stupid Nazis. Why did you have to ruin the swastika for everyone else?

They didn't. The people that refuse to see it as anything other than a Nazi symbol ruin it for everyone else.

Agreed. Its a hindu symbol originally if I remember correctly? Hindu or Buhdism, I honestly can't remember... but still Internet High Five for realising Swastika isn't all bad

Lots of Buddhist monks playing Black Ops from their monasteries, I bet.

It'll thin out the morons and only the morons, so I don't particularly care.

 

[JDKJ]

To be fair, the Nazis only committed one of the most heinous crimes in recorded human history.

really? I would say thee most notorious, I mean how many people were killed due to Alexander and his army? what about Stalin?

Stalin for the most part killed his own people so did Mao and several dictators today. But Hitler and the Nazi party oversaw the systematic persecution, collection, and attempted eradication of an entire race. Not for political difference or any crimes other than the fact they were a specific race or an "undesirable."

The swastika is an ancient symbol but the tilting at an angle and putting it on a white and red background makes it clear they were thinking of Nazism when they made it. I can see how it'd be offensive and I just find it annoying and unimaginative, but I don't think an insta ban is that necessary could just put a lock on their layers to like 3 so they couldn't make anything that ornate.

Well the Nazis did the killing for the greater good they thought, in their minds they were saving mankind from the "evil" jews.

Stalin and the rest of the dictators that killed loads of people did it for power and control over people for their own selfish needs.

Therefore I think that what the Nazis did is more "okay" than what Stalin & co did.

Damn. I gotta thank you. What you just posted and I therefore was able to read has completely justified my time spent here. It's kinda like if I spent all day up in a deer stand and didn't see a single deer but did see a chupacabra running across a field, then my time spent in the deer stand wasn't at all a complete waste of time.

Thanks.

Do I detect a bit of sarcasm in that post?...

If not, thanks for the kind words :]

I ain't gonna lie. I was more than a little clowning on you. But in a weird kinda way your post was appreciated. Kinda like a good palate cleanser between the courses of a fine meal. It's all good. I ain't gots nothin' but love for ya, honey.