They are churning out movies so frequently, they start to feel like homework to do before you can get to watch the crossover you are actually interested in.
??? Who said anything about sides.Your Creator said:How much trawling through Twitter did it take to get to this totally unknown and uninfluencial person? Dare we ask to look for the other side of this? Or would that be too inconvenient? A comic book story only now reaching your limit of belief in this situation is so very telling. Hopefully it was just a joke at your own expense.
The Lunatic said:??? Who said anything about sides.Your Creator said:How much trawling through Twitter did it take to get to this totally unknown and uninfluencial person? Dare we ask to look for the other side of this? Or would that be too inconvenient? A comic book story only now reaching your limit of belief in this situation is so very telling. Hopefully it was just a joke at your own expense.
All racism is bad.
This took about 5 seconds to find, and not on Twitter. It's got thousands of people who're... Retweeting it? (I don't use twitter, forgive me.) So, it's actually not just some random person, but instead somebody who has seemingly gained the attention of at least a few thousand people.
Admirable attempt at twisting the language. Clever I'm sure it felt for you at the time. But ultimately meaningless. I don't doubt you found it quickly as I don't doubt the many who utilise Twitter to perpetuate their own perceptions of others through transparent cherry picking. Isn't that all that is left now?The Lunatic said:??? Who said anything about sides.Your Creator said:How much trawling through Twitter did it take to get to this totally unknown and uninfluencial person? Dare we ask to look for the other side of this? Or would that be too inconvenient? A comic book story only now reaching your limit of belief in this situation is so very telling. Hopefully it was just a joke at your own expense.
All racism is bad.
This took about 5 seconds to find, and not on Twitter. It's got thousands of people who're... Retweeting it? (I don't use twitter, forgive me.) So, it's actually not just some random person, but instead somebody who has seemingly gained the attention of at least a few thousand people.
I don't really know what this monologue is about, but, as long as we all agree that racism is bad, I don't really see much discussion here, sorry.Your Creator said:Admirable attempt at twisting the language. Clever I'm sure it felt for you at the time. But ultimately meaningless. I don't doubt you found it quickly as I don't doubt the many who utilise Twitter to perpetuate their own perceptions of others through transparent cherry picking. Isn't that all that is left now?
Well, it'd be pretty racist to say "Without black people, white countries would have significantly less crime", or portray America as some Utopia if it kept blacks enslaved or whatever.undeadsuitor said:how is it racist to consider that the global wealth distribution would look a lot different without imperialistic conquest and razing by white nations
that seems like a fun tangent to extrapolate
also
things you believed in Marvel movies:
A man in a flying suit with a cold fusion power source in his chest
A WW2 super serum that made a man a foot taller and gave him super strength and reflexes
A literal god
An infinite power source in a cube
A purple stone that can destroy a planet
a talking raccoon and tree
things you can't believe in Marvel movies:
black people with technology
Mainly because they don't feel like being entrenched in centuries of constant warfare defending their boarders to ensure their technology and vibranium isn't stolen by the rest of the world. They've cured almost every disease, have the most advanced military tech, completely energy independent, and far better off than anywhere else. Why risk inviting espionage or outright war with other nations?Hawki said:Well, that looked...appropriately bonkers. Not much of an MCU fan, but I'll give credit where credit is due.
a) If Wakanda is so advanced (more so than the rest of the world), is the secrecy even needed? As in, you could just say, "yes, we have more advanced tech than you, so piss off if you don't want your atoms scattered." Might make their lives easier.
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Except that if you read the comics you would know Wakanda isn't advance because whitey didn't invade but because they have a adavance alien resources such as Vibranaum.The Lunatic said:Well, it'd be pretty racist to say "Without black people, white countries would have significantly less crime", or portray America as some Utopia if it kept blacks enslaved or whatever.
It blames the person's skin colour for their trespasses and not the individuals, or what have you. Which... Is basically the textbook definition of racism.
It'd require quite a lot of explanation, yeah. I mean, all the other Marval movies explain things in a way that makes sense. Usually alien/trans-dimension interference, if it's just that again, then that'd be pretty boring, wouldn't it?
Plus they'd have to explain how it's somehow been kept secret in a modern setting.
In parts of rural Ethiopia and Southern Sudan it's a thing, however it's 1) only a thing women do, and 2) something that isn't mainstream in any way.bastardofmelbourne said:And what's with the dude with the big green thing stuck in his lip? Is that a real thing? It looked like a parody of a real thing.
It's a real thing.bastardofmelbourne said:And what's with the dude with the big green thing stuck in his lip? Is that a real thing? It looked like a parody of a real thing.
I know, it's like something out if a comic book!bastardofmelbourne said:snip
Black Panther was created in 1966, remember that. And unlike DC, Marvel doesnt redo itself all the time. Mostly they just push up the timeline, but much of those old plots and stuff are actually still the canon.bastardofmelbourne said:It didn't actually grab me that much.
I mean, right at the start, they're like "Wakanda is a third-world country, exports sheep and textiles," and then Klaue is like "all a front!"
A front? What, like the mob operating behind a pizza place? They have a utopian super-city with flying saucers. You can't disguise that as some weavers and shepherds! It's impossible! This shit would be visible from space!
I mean, Wakanda is enough of a real place that it has aid workers in other real African countries and its king can go to the UN and say "let's rein in those superdudes, k?" but no-one is allowed to go there? No-one is allowed to leave? Does Black Panther just kill everyone who tries to get in? Because if there was a rumoured super-advanced ufotopia in the middle of Africa, there'd be a ton of refugees trying to get in there. Is he killing all of them? Do they just let them in and go "Okay, now you can never leave our ufotopian paradise. Also, no Twitter."
I can buy that there's a super-advanced African city-state that has held off all invaders with vibranium-powered weapons, but what I can't buy is that they've somehow kept this a secret over the past hundred years. It'd be like if North Korea suddenly revealed that they had an army of giant mecha, the Kim dynasty were a family of genetically-engineered super-pilots for the mecha, and Pyongyang could uproot itself and fly. The only explanation is that all the world's intelligence services are in on it.
If this was the real world, a CIA guy would be briefing President Trump on Wakanda diplomatic relations and he would immediately tweet about it and ruin a century-long charade. And then a bunch of starving African refugees would go "You hear that? They've got a city with flying saucers, and we're stuck out here in Shitholesville getting raped and set on fire by the janjaweed. Let's mosey."
And what's with the dude with the big green thing stuck in his lip? Is that a real thing? It looked like a parody of a real thing.
Wakanda never masqueraded as a third-world country in the comics, though. They were isolationist and mysterious, but everyone knew that they had vibranium and were super-advanced.Here Comes Tomorrow said:I know, it's like something out if a comic book!
Hahahaha okay! I did not need to see that.Zhukov said:It's a real thing.
Google "lip plate".
I know, right?bastardofmelbourne said:Hahahaha okay! I did not need to see that.Zhukov said:It's a real thing.
Google "lip plate".
To be honest without European Imperialism there's a strong argument to be made that Africa would be less developed today then it is due to how much of its current state came from the infrastructure that was left behind by Europeans, and the fact that Europeans didn't stunt any development that was going on since the continent (sans the Northern part) was between tribal nomads and early stone age civilisation when they showed up, with no push for development to occur (there's a reason why they where at their level of development to begin with).inu-kun said:Probably exactly the same, as humans are the same in their core. Unless you want to proclaim a natural born moral superiority by non-white races (pretty much the very definition of racism).undeadsuitor said:how is it racist to consider that the global wealth distribution would look a lot different without imperialistic conquest and razing by white nations
that seems like a fun tangent to extrapolate
Mind elaborating on this?Johnny Novgorod said:Bottom of the barrel Marvel.
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Seriously, this kind of racist shit is completely unacceptable, anyone going along with these people should be ashamed of themselves.
Personally? Meh? The whole "Africa is future now, but, nobody knew!" thing is just a little bit too... Unbelievable.