Wow, sounds...riveting. I'll be sure to pick these up on Steam *cough* I'm sure these'll be...fun...to play.
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I think this thread is a pretty good reason why this Boobjam needs to exist: So many people saying it can be done? A challenge to prove them wrong!
If we're throwing ideas around, I got a pair:
· The player character is a transgendered person. Choice can be made between male to female or female to male. Then the gameplay would be the character's quest for or against its own breasts, as it might fit. It could also double as a "message" game about transgender issues.
· The player, in first person, controls a young college girl suffering from macromastia. The main gameplay would be a series of "obstacle courses" where the character tried to accomplish goals. The "obstacles" being men (and the occasional lesbian). Gameplay would be about choosing what to wear (clothing, bra, accesories, hairdo) so as to balance mobility (there's a timer and bouncy breasts + stairs is a bad thing), male attention (because some tasks need male characters to do something for the player) and male "focus" (because we men turn into drooling idiots in the presence of breasts).
Note the first person requirement, so the male gaze is actually imposed on the player from the horny NPCs.
And finally, I would suggest Boobzilla... But Woody Allen already filmed "All You Wanted To Know About Sex But Where Afraid To Ask" decades ago.
If we're throwing ideas around, I got a pair:
· The player character is a transgendered person. Choice can be made between male to female or female to male. Then the gameplay would be the character's quest for or against its own breasts, as it might fit. It could also double as a "message" game about transgender issues.
· The player, in first person, controls a young college girl suffering from macromastia. The main gameplay would be a series of "obstacle courses" where the character tried to accomplish goals. The "obstacles" being men (and the occasional lesbian). Gameplay would be about choosing what to wear (clothing, bra, accesories, hairdo) so as to balance mobility (there's a timer and bouncy breasts + stairs is a bad thing), male attention (because some tasks need male characters to do something for the player) and male "focus" (because we men turn into drooling idiots in the presence of breasts).
Note the first person requirement, so the male gaze is actually imposed on the player from the horny NPCs.
And finally, I would suggest Boobzilla... But Woody Allen already filmed "All You Wanted To Know About Sex But Where Afraid To Ask" decades ago.
Then what's the appeal? For educational purposes? Breasts are not an exciting topic for a video game, less so if they're being designed not to be 'titillating'. I wouldn't make a video game about, I dunno, my elbow. And it's the same thing if you're trying to avoid the sex appeal angle. They're going to make a statement, but not a fun game.NoeL said:It's clear you're not seeing the point, since you completely missed it.The point isn't to make games that "realistically portray" boobs, it's to make games about boobs that don't have "male gaze" titillation as a core focus - a game specifically about boobs where (most) male gamers won't be aroused playing it. It doesn't have to be a "realistic" portrayal (since boobs are sex organs you can have realistic portrayals that are still designed to titillate), just a non-sexual portrayal.
Actually, breastfeeding Isn't their only purpose. Yes, some of us DO have orgasms simply from having nipple stimulation.theSteamSupported said:
"The researchers discovered that stimulation of the nipple activated an area of the brain known as the genital sensory cortex. This is the same brain region activated by stimulation of the clitoris, vagina, and cervix. What this means is that women?s brains seem to process nipple and genital stimulation in the same way. In light of this, it is not at all surprising that many women are aroused by having their nipples touched and that, for some, this may be enough to lead to orgasm."
http://www.scienceofrelationships.com/home/2011/12/16/breasts-are-best-can-women-orgasm-from-nipple-stimulation.html
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As for the ideas of having our boobs as weapons. It has already been done to death. Just look at Queen's Blade Mellona. This isn't desexualizing them in any way shape or form. LOL
How about we just add a feature that every time a guy says " titties or GTFO" in a game a dwarf shows up to his house in real life and kicks him in the balls. That would solve the problem.
It is really, the ONLY use for breasts. That is the SOLE REASON THEY EXIST, to FEED THE BABIES! Not for our entertainment or to ogle at. To feed babies.KissingSunlight said:
And stating that, how about a simulation game where you play as a wetnurse tasked with keeping kids fed and burped? Don't know how you put gameplay into it, but it's an idea. Seriously, breasts. They're baby feeders and a secondary gender identifier. They aren't genitalia, they aren't innately sexualized, they're big glands that nature gave women to keep their babies well fed. It's our own damn fault that breasts have become so sexualized and how big boobs in media is always for cheesecake and the like. Originally, they were a status of femininity, fertility and motherhood. Especially large breasts, those were associated the most with motherhood if I remember correctly. Hopefully, someone comes up with a good idea for this thing and the haters of the world don't find some way to twist it into "THAT IS SEXIST!".
I'm sure many people would have argued that running a farm or planning a city wouldn't be exciting enough for a video game - especially side by side with epic dragon-slaying adventures. Yet lo and behold, Harvest Moon and Sim City not only exist, but are successful franchises. You saying "Breasts are not an exciting topic for a video game" only illustrates how unimaginative you are. The trick is to make it exciting. Find that thing about boobs that can be turned into a game - there's plenty of ground to search for it. There's TONS you can do with the ideas already mentioned (breastfeeding, bra fitting, breast cancer). You can be a baby explorer, wandering the seemingly endless hills and valleys of his morbidly obese mother, searching for the elusive teat. Or maybe it's a first-person skateboarding game but your tits are so big you can't see your feet and have to essentially play blind. Or maybe it's a game where you have to spot a hidden image of boobs within a seemingly boob-free picture. There's likely far better ideas out there (and you could make an engaging game about your elbow too - imagine some of the things an elbow might witness or experience. There's bound to be some humour there somewhere), but you're only screwing yourself over closing your mind to the notion that someone could make a good, non-sexual game about boobs.In Search of Username said:Then what's the appeal? For educational purposes? Breasts are not an exciting topic for a video game, less so if they're being designed not to be 'titillating'. I wouldn't make a video game about, I dunno, my elbow. And it's the same thing if you're trying to avoid the sex appeal angle. They're going to make a statement, but not a fun game.NoeL said:It's clear you're not seeing the point, since you completely missed it.
That's not necessarily true. Most/all other mammals, even other primates, don't have "boobs" unless they're lactating - they're either flat-chested or have pancakes. Biologists have questioned why human females have permanent knockers, and they think boobs are there to display sexual readiness (since women are "in heat" (i.e. able to conceive) all the time from puberty to menopause). The equivalent in other mammals is a giant swollen vulva, but since humans walk upright the vulva is hidden between the legs. So besides breastfeeding, the purpose of breasts may be to advertise "I'm biologically DTF".otakon17 said:
I provided a link above. Breasts are also for sexual stimulation of the woman. They are not there simply for mans pleasure. Yes, women can actually orgasm from nipple stimulation alone.NoeL said:I'm sure many people would have argued that running a farm or planning a city wouldn't be exciting enough for a video game - especially side by side with epic dragon-slaying adventures. Yet lo and behold, Harvest Moon and Sim City not only exist, but are successful franchises. You saying "Breasts are not an exciting topic for a video game" only illustrates how unimaginative you are. The trick is to make it exciting. Find that thing about boobs that can be turned into a game - there's plenty of ground to search for it. There's TONS you can do with the ideas already mentioned (breastfeeding, bra fitting, breast cancer). You can be a baby explorer, wandering the seemingly endless hills and valleys of his morbidly obese mother, searching for the elusive teat. Or maybe it's a first-person skateboarding game but your tits are so big you can't see your feet and have to essentially play blind. Or maybe it's a game where you have to spot a hidden image of boobs within a seemingly boob-free picture. There's likely far better ideas out there (and you could make an engaging game about your elbow too - imagine some of the things an elbow might witness or experience. There's bound to be some humour there somewhere), but you're only screwing yourself over closing your mind to the notion that someone could make a good, non-sexual game about boobs.In Search of Username said:Then what's the appeal? For educational purposes? Breasts are not an exciting topic for a video game, less so if they're being designed not to be 'titillating'. I wouldn't make a video game about, I dunno, my elbow. And it's the same thing if you're trying to avoid the sex appeal angle. They're going to make a statement, but not a fun game.NoeL said:It's clear you're not seeing the point, since you completely missed it.
That's not necessarily true. Most/all other mammals, even other primates, don't have "boobs" unless they're lactating - they're either flat-chested or have pancakes. Biologists have questioned why human females have permanent knockers, and they think boobs are there to display sexual readiness (since women are "in heat" (i.e. able to conceive) all the time from puberty to menopause). The equivalent in other mammals is a giant swollen vulva, but since humans walk upright the vulva is hidden between the legs. So besides breastfeeding, the purpose of breasts may be to advertise "I'm biologically DTF".otakon17 said:
I wasn't implying boobs are ONLY for breastfeeding/displaying fertility, but that said the number of women that can come from just nipple stimulation is fairly small. There are also women that can orgasm from having their necks kissed, or even purely by imagination - no physical touching of anything (oh how I envy those women). But no one would argue it's the purpose of the neck/mind to be sexually stimulating, and boobs =/= nipples. I'm totally cool with boobs being identified as secondary sex organs though - I'm not arguing they're not sexual in nature.Lil devils x said:
It said the number of women who orgasm from nipple stimulation alone was small, but in all the women the genital sensory cortex was activated. Women also have varying degrees of breast sensitivity. Although, I am willing to bet that more women than they realize orgasm from nipple stimulation alone, you have to do it right. If you don't do it just the right way, it doesn't work properly and instead makes the breasts ache. LOL!NoeL said:
You speak from experience I presume? XDLil devils x said:
I wonder if that study tested "non-sexual" areas of the body as a comparison - I'd be interested to see if areas like the inside of the thigh or the neck (or even something like an elbow, as a point of comparison) could illicit similar responses, and to what degree. I'd also like to see how they controlled their influence, since I can imagine that if the women knew they were there for a sex study when asked to touch their nipples that could easily put them "in the mood". I wonder if a suckling infant would evoke a sexual response. I'd also love to see this repeated in an isolated African/South American tribe where women walk around topless and boobs and nipples aren't culturally recognised as sex organs (at least not to the degree of other parts of the world). And for the sake of completeness, I'd love to see the same thing done on men!
I'm not debating the validity of the study - I would pretty much expect to see the results they got - I'm just interested in finding out to what degree their findings are relevant.
Yes, I agree more studies need to be done, and I would also think that the toughening of the nipple would dull sensitivity when exposed to sunlight and elements as well as would be the case with tribal African women. Although, I would think that just being in the MRI scanner would be more of a turn off, it isn't exactly fun in there. It is kind of stressful, and may have made it more difficult on the women, they were able to get some good information from this study given the very non sexual nature of the MRI scan itself.NoeL said:You speak from experience I presume? XDLil devils x said:
I wonder if that study tested "non-sexual" areas of the body as a comparison - I'd be interested to see if areas like the inside of the thigh or the neck (or even something like an elbow, as a point of comparison) could illicit similar responses, and to what degree. I'd also like to see how they controlled their influence, since I can imagine that if the women knew they were there for a sex study when asked to touch their nipples that could easily put them "in the mood". I wonder if a suckling infant would evoke a sexual response. I'd also love to see this repeated in an isolated African/South American tribe where women walk around topless and boobs and nipples aren't culturally recognised as sex organs (at least not to the degree of other parts of the world). And for the sake of completeness, I'd love to see the same thing done on men!
I'm not debating the validity of the study - I would pretty much expect to see the results they got - I'm just interested in finding out to what degree their findings are relevant.
Possibly true, and likely true for many participants, but I know a girl that was quite embarrassed by the fact she tended to... lubricate... whenever she visited the OBGYN, so I don't think it would be accurate to claim a woman in a clinical environment couldn't be sexually aroused. But given the sterility of the situation obviously wasn't enough to negate the brain activity when the genitals were touched either it's kinda hard to argue your point that the location was enough of a turn off to counteract whatever excitement they might've had about touching themselves for science.Lil devils x said:
Huh, I thought that was just a myth or something.Lil devils x said:
Anyway, nothing really has a purpose from an evolutionary standpoint. It's all pretty much "whatever works".
I don't think 'having breasts' is really comparable to running a city or farm in terms of the amount there is to do with the premise really. Those sound like concepts you could do something with already and arguably don't require huge leaps of creativity to make them interesting, they just are inherently solid game ideas with a lot of stuff to explore within them. Making a game about an individual body part on the other hand? I'm sure someone could make it interesting, like you said, but it would be a stretch, and it would be due to their game-developing expertise rather than an actual good concept. And I'd frankly rather people who are that good at making games spent their time making something based on a concept that was interesting to begin with instead of wasting their time trying to find a way to make this bad idea work.NoeL said:
...I'm guessing this is going to be "how do breasts affect the way people move/act/etc.?" Maybe you pick your character's body type, and it lends them better or worse to certain armor, etc. If you have big boobs, chances are you have more fat elsewhere (look, it's true, Barbie does not exist, and boobs are fat deposits), so you're probably a heavier or at least larger character; it will also affect your social performance, because people stereotype/have cultural preconceptions of beauty/etc. Being slim and sleek will increase your Sneaking stat or whatever because you can fit into smaller spaces -- really, breasts only compress so much. You might also be able to cross-dress better without big D-cups.
Etc. etc. A game where what shape of woman you are, changes your actions, would be really fun for me. Granted, I'm female, and maybe it's just that I think it'd be cool if people explored that kind of thing.
Etc. etc. A game where what shape of woman you are, changes your actions, would be really fun for me. Granted, I'm female, and maybe it's just that I think it'd be cool if people explored that kind of thing.