Also the mistake of murdering someone, and stealing, and playing Guitar Hero up too late, in descending order of significance.Bretty said:Wow.
I guess he made the mistake of trusting family.
I know they don't always but in this case, I guess they kind of do. They did get the murder. But still, for the uncle to further himself at the cost of his own family going to jail. I don't know if he was just being opertunistic or doing the right thing and got this as a bonus. Kinda tricky.HG131 said:Ends doesn't always justify the means, but it can.Best of the 3 said:Although I am glad they got the guy, I can't help but feel that it was quite a dick move by the uncle. End justifys means maybe? I dunno.
It was the uncle's house, he can put microphones whereever the hell he wants and give it to whoever he wants.Sgt. Sykes said:Is this even legal? Police bugging someone's house (who wasn't charged with anything and apparently wasn't even officially a suspect)? Exchanging cancellation of a felony for this?
Plus, how long have the police been tapping on the guy? It's unlikely that after two years, they bugged his house and the dude has started talking the very next day. They must have been tapping onto him for very long. Apparently without any warrant.
How long can anyone be wiretapped just because of a suspicion? A year? Two years? For a lifetime? What if he wouldn't talk for another two years? Would they convince another relative of his to get a confession from him?
Plus this isn't a confession. If I tell someone something in my private, it can have NO legal cause. Ever.
I don't know whether the guy killed someone or not, but with such 'evidence', any judge should dismiss the case off the bat. And the policemen who came up with this scheme should be 'dismissed' as well.
This is not supposed to be martial law you know. Shit like this can very easily be misused or fabricated, that's why it's not permitted in decent society.
You're acting like the police can't use the recording to make a deal with the kid. And considering the lawyer already admitted his client killed the guy, it's pretty pointless. Seriously dude. Read the WHOLE article.Sgt. Sykes said:That makes sense. Still, it's very shallow 'evidence'.
"Oh, you mean what I told my uncle? I wasn't serious/was just kidding/wanted to look like a badass/was just practicing for a theater act. See officer, you have no case."
Next, there's the whole 'pardon one felony for helping catch another felon' thing. Not only it's immoral (though I understand it can be worth it in some cases), but it's a bribe. And bribes by definition skew facts toward some goal.
Now, the uncle could be told one of the following two things:
1) He'll get his pardon if he makes his nephew to CONFESS. And that's basically forced confession = not legally valid. The uncle could just skew the conversation in a way it'd seem his nephew confesses. I can quite imagine how it could look (with a grain of salt): "Don't you not disagree that you don't confess to not killing that lady?" "What? No." "Busted!" Something like that.
2) He'll get his pardon if he allows the wiretapping. Which is less evil, but in that case, I don't see why would the uncle even help the police by making that conversation (unless he was 100% sure his nephew did it and couldn't sleep with that). Or did the topic just come up by accident? A very strange coincidence.
So it seems more likely that 1) is what really occurred, which is immoral and, most likely, unlawful.
Don't forget that NOBODY can be forced to witness against a family member. Every country has laws against that.
And at the end, whatever two people talk in their homes is never binding in a legal/criminal sense. It's even hard to make a valid verbal contract, much less evidence in a criminal case. Every lawyer and judge will tear such evidence to shreds. Of course there may be other evidence or witnesses, but if they couldn't make progress in a case in two years, they probably don't have much and with this new piece, they certainly didn't gain anything.