Its good that they caught him and all but this uncle is a pretty big d-bag.Andy Chalk said:The uncle, who agreed to cooperate in exchange for the cancellation of a drunk driving charge against him
I know right? if you're playing Guitar Hero loudly, the place the mic will pick up the LEAST conversation is the xbox...except for maybe outside haha..why not an object a little closer to the sofa?danpascooch said:Wait, what? Why put the mic in the 360? It could have been anywhere in the room
Nothing to do with your post, but where's your avatar from?Best of the 3 said:Although I am glad they got the guy, I can't help but feel that it was quite a dick move by the uncle. End justifys means maybe? I dunno.
I don't know where it came from. Probably some website after a lot of google searching. Probably don't have permission to use it either (if I needed permission XP)Raziel_Likes_Souls said:Nothing to do with your post, but where's your avatar from?Best of the 3 said:Although I am glad they got the guy, I can't help but feel that it was quite a dick move by the uncle. End justifys means maybe? I dunno.
Well, Eggs Box to the rescue, thankfully.
You. Dictionary.tjs09 said:Well, there's no argument on which aspect of the story is more sad, but the keyword is psychotic. Just tossing him in a cell with other criminals and possible psychos just seems like an easy way out.
Well I think that you should be able to completely trust your family not to stab you in the back like that. Like a coffession just more personal. Even if my family member did kill someone, I'd support my family before justice hammer smash time and shite.HG131 said:I agree, they do here. As for the whole "at the cost of his own family", everyone arguing that he shouldn't have done this because the kid was family makes me sick. Loyalty to someone or something you didn't chose to be a part of (much like loyalty to your country) is retarded.Best of the 3 said:I know they don't always but in this case, I guess they kind of do. They did get the murder. But still, for the uncle to further himself at the cost of his own family going to jail. I don't know if he was just being opertunistic or doing the right thing and got this as a bonus. Kinda tricky.HG131 said:Ends doesn't always justify the means, but it can.Best of the 3 said:Although I am glad they got the guy, I can't help but feel that it was quite a dick move by the uncle. End justifys means maybe? I dunno.
It would have been the DA's decision to offer the deal or not. The cops could have suggested it and implemented it, but they have no pull in the deal making process.Sgt. Sykes said:Is this even legal? Police bugging someone's house (who wasn't charged with anything and apparently wasn't even officially a suspect)? Exchanging cancellation of a felony for this?
The police can legally bug a house for as long as the owner is consenting without a warrant. Just like the cops don't need a warrant if you tell them it's ok for them to search your house or car.Plus, how long have the police been tapping on the guy? It's unlikely that after two years, they bugged his house and the dude has started talking the very next day. They must have been tapping onto him for very long. Apparently without any warrant.
How long can anyone be wiretapped just because of a suspicion? A year? Two years? For a lifetime? What if he wouldn't talk for another two years? Would they convince another relative of his to get a confession from him?
It is if they catch it on tape, unless it is to your religious leader. Which I think is stupid. People can be subpoenaed to testify to what they were told in private if they did not catch it on tape. This is considered circumstantial evidence however, and will only be used if there is more concrete evidence to back it up.Plus this isn't a confession. If I tell someone something in my private, it can have NO legal cause. Ever.
It was a legally obtained tap that resulted in the taped confession of a murderer. Why exactly should a judge dismiss it and the cops/DA lose their jobs?I don't know whether the guy killed someone or not, but with such 'evidence', any judge should dismiss the case off the bat. And the policemen who came up with this scheme should be 'dismissed' as well.
First, if it was martial law they would not have bothered making sure the tap was legal. Second, I don't know how you would fabricate or misuse a murder confession caught on tape. Third, this happens in decent society all the time. What you should really be worried about it what would have happened in an indecent society. Just a hint, they cut off your hand if you steal in the Middle East.This is not supposed to be martial law you know. Shit like this can very easily be misused or fabricated, that's why it's not permitted in decent society.
With the consent of the uncle which there was this is 100% legal.Sgt. Sykes said:Is this even legal? Police bugging someone's house (who wasn't charged with anything and apparently wasn't even officially a suspect)? Exchanging cancellation of a felony for this?
Plus, how long have the police been tapping on the guy? It's unlikely that after two years, they bugged his house and the dude has started talking the very next day. They must have been tapping onto him for very long. Apparently without any warrant.
It takes time to even get a suspect out of a group. See above response for the bug.How long can anyone be wiretapped just because of a suspicion? A year? Two years? For a lifetime? What if he wouldn't talk for another two years? Would they convince another relative of his to get a confession from him?
Does not mean anything if you are suspected of doing something and there is a recording of you saying you did it you are pretty much fucked. Your own fault for being an idiot.Plus this isn't a confession. If I tell someone something in my private, it can have NO legal cause. Ever.
You really don't understand law enforcement at all. Do you.I don't know whether the guy killed someone or not, but with such 'evidence', any judge should dismiss the case off the bat. And the policemen who came up with this scheme should be 'dismissed' as well.
Again I say you do not know law enforcement. It is actually common practice to get rid of smaller crimes to help with a police investigation whether you like it or not this is 100% legal and no it is not marshal law. Marshal law would be WITHOUT the consent of the uncle whose house was bugged the uncle knew full well what was going on and said it was okay to do it so that pretty much means your entire argument here is invalid about it not being legal.This is not supposed to be martial law you know. Shit like this can very easily be misused or fabricated, that's why it's not permitted in decent society.