So you don't feel the CoD community is Misogynistic then?erttheking said:
I didn't insult you at all. I accused you of something, I never implied anything about you by doing so.
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I didn't insult you at all. I accused you of something, I never implied anything about you by doing so.
...That has nothing to do with anything. Just like every other question you've asked.The Lunatic said:
So, you don't see how me questioning if you agree with the guy in the article is related to the article?erttheking said:
No I don't because it has absolutely nothing to do with anything that we've been talking about. You started talking about how people were just throwing around the term misogynistic hoping that it would stick. I said no one was doing that. You incorrectly defined a word and now you're demanding my opinion on the matter that we were never talking about in the first place.The Lunatic said:
Which you said you'd dropped, now you're talking about it again?!erttheking said:
It's a forum for discussion, if you don't want to discuss things, there's not much point posting.
So, I'm asking if you agree with the guy in the interview, because your initial post made it seem like you did not.
No I didn't. But I suppose we might as well shift gears. This wasn't going anywhere.The Lunatic said:
And I believe that there's a misogynistic undertone to the culture, and I believe that overall it's a nesting ground for fuck heads.
"I certainly wouldn't characterize the community of fans I know and had the pleasure to engage with as toxic...."
I'd like a plane ticket to whatever beautiful alternate universe Mr. Condrey inhabits. A one-way ticket, please.
I'd like a plane ticket to whatever beautiful alternate universe Mr. Condrey inhabits. A one-way ticket, please.
Two main megaphones drowning out reasonable thought come to mind. One Starts with A and is a hand puppet and the other are people who believe all independant thought is deviant and must be purged along with anyone who doesnt share their vision of the future.UberPubert said:
HOW DARE HE DEFEND HIS OWN CUSTOMERS AND IN TURN HIS OWN COMPANY!erttheking said:
How DARE he defend his millions upon millions (according to sales numbers) customers despite a dwindling minority of anonymous idiots behaving like well... anonymous idiots.... ON THE INTERNET!
Jesus christ dude, come down your high horse. At this points you come over worse then some of those halo playing kiddies that just cant deal with puberty and growing hair in funny places.
Further more he defends his customers from the accusation of being mysoginistic because it has been what? The last couple of months that games media has been pointing at gamers and said "this is why we cant have nice things?"
In my opinion alot more Developers and Publishers should take a stand against this kind of accusation because you know... the overwhelming majority of gamers is SILENT.
You dont really believe that the millions of WoW players can be characterized by the less then 1% of them who actually use the blizzard forums now do you?
Start realizing the real numbers in gaming and stop basing your judgment on the few that scream the loudest and you will realize that there is no widespread "mysoginy" among gamers, heck you will be hard pressed to find any true mysoginists in there, because quite frankly... the millions upon millions of gamers dont really give a fuck... that goes for males aswell as females.
People have been attributing bad behavior to gamers for a very long time, but some of the responses in this thread just smack of elitism and condescension that's highly unwarranted.Adultratedhydra said:
To me; these claims of toxicity in gaming are as unsubstantiated as the claims of gaming causing violence, and while I'll certainly join in at poking fun at certain communities (many of which I do or have belonged to), there's no reason anyone on the development team of the game should feel the need to address these claims on the news.
It's the people making these claims that should be called into question.
Many people in the Call of Duty community are pretty toxic, hateful, and homophobic. Rented Advanced Warfare and tried playing a couple of matches. Five minutes in and I already had to mute everyone in the game. The mute button, the only way I can play the MP in Call of Duty.
No no you cant question the "Victims" you need to "Listen and believe" No matter what......Hang on a moment. I vomited in my mouth a little while typing that.UberPubert said:
But yes. Too much is focused on the Toxicity rather than the people who keep saying there is toxicity.
I... don't think that makes it any better. Like it doesn't matter if Westboro Baptist legitimately believes that IEDs are god's judgement on US soldiers, or if they're just lawsuit-baiting. It's still putrid.insaninater said:
... at least most of the Christian right doesn't actively try to defend WBC. I mean, silence kinda sucks, but it's better than the backlash that a lot of gamers show whenever someone mentions our crazy fringe.
I prefer to think of most of them as screeching dickholes, but it is practically a sewer system and there are a few turds who stand taller and stink more than others.
Actually, I played mostly on the xbox360 (yes, the "worst", or so I hear).wAriot said:
But I did a ton of gaming on there; call of duty as mentioned, but also gears of war (the trilogy, not counting liberation) and mass effect 3 co-op.
I still stand by my assessment. While even I've encountered some nastiness here and there, if I'm being objective? 99% of my playtime was completely uneventful.
EDIT: I just want to point out I'm also a PC gamer, and have been around competitive shooters since Unreal Tournament in '99, and then CS:Source in '04. I didn't really get into console gaming until last gen, and to be completely honest, when it comes to the general community? I can barely tell the difference. The game seems to matter more than the platform.
In order for the community to be misogynistic then at least 50% of them would need to have that trait.
Anyone who has engaged in any online gaming with CoD would quickly realize that on a server it's maybe one or two people who are spouting profanities - and often at each other. The rest of the players are just happy to either mute or carry on with the game.
This confirmation bias bullshit that completely ignores sample size and associates silence with acceptance is the ailment of fools.
Anyone who has engaged in any online gaming with CoD would quickly realize that on a server it's maybe one or two people who are spouting profanities - and often at each other. The rest of the players are just happy to either mute or carry on with the game.
This confirmation bias bullshit that completely ignores sample size and associates silence with acceptance is the ailment of fools.
The people who use those insults are the loud, dickish minority. The rest of us sit quietly, mikes unplugged, and mute the fuckers. That's what it's for, by the way, the mute function - it's so you don't have to hear the sub-humans.
Edit: here's something I forgot to mention. I'm willing to bet a four-figure sum that even the most offensive prick on CoD doesn't actually believe that women should "get back in the kitchen" or that black people aren't human. They say that because they know it gets to people. A lot of people just use it as an excuse to hate Call Of Duty, which, in my opinion, is absolutely pathetic.
Edit: here's something I forgot to mention. I'm willing to bet a four-figure sum that even the most offensive prick on CoD doesn't actually believe that women should "get back in the kitchen" or that black people aren't human. They say that because they know it gets to people. A lot of people just use it as an excuse to hate Call Of Duty, which, in my opinion, is absolutely pathetic.