Candy Crush Dev: Microtransactions Are The Future of Games
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How much of a money grabber can one hope to be?! Everyone should start with micro-transactions so there would be no consumer friendly products anymore in the gaming industry??
The greatest threat for King is that people start to realize that a packaged deals are better deals than "free to play".
Free to play translates in my mind as "free to try" (also known as a demo) and if you happen to like the game you will have to keep paying for it. SERIOUSLY you pay more because you like the game.
Imagine Skyrim as free to play... I think I would be indebted for life.
I doubt Blizzard is doing a killing with Heartstone. They are likely more interested in keeping their level of service up to par, so people are comfortable buying their other products at full price (they have very seldom any sales).
I find it disgusting that they try to compare themselves with a big company that still tries to be consumer friendly.
Please God can nobody start an ad campaign to combat this crappy business practice. "You like candy crush why not try these games that only cost 5$ and you can try the demo for free. Why pay more when you can get better product for less?"
Micro-transactions, free to play... *shivering in disgust*
The greatest threat for King is that people start to realize that a packaged deals are better deals than "free to play".
Free to play translates in my mind as "free to try" (also known as a demo) and if you happen to like the game you will have to keep paying for it. SERIOUSLY you pay more because you like the game.
Imagine Skyrim as free to play... I think I would be indebted for life.
I doubt Blizzard is doing a killing with Heartstone. They are likely more interested in keeping their level of service up to par, so people are comfortable buying their other products at full price (they have very seldom any sales).
I find it disgusting that they try to compare themselves with a big company that still tries to be consumer friendly.
Please God can nobody start an ad campaign to combat this crappy business practice. "You like candy crush why not try these games that only cost 5$ and you can try the demo for free. Why pay more when you can get better product for less?"
Micro-transactions, free to play... *shivering in disgust*
There are Free to play games that support a decent microtransaction model, but they don't even compare on the scale to the ones that are just preying on the wallets of their customers.
I have been talking at my gym with someone who has been playing Silkroad for 10 years and doesn't want to play something else.
I've heard they charge for premium plus account to be able to "have a spot" in the server, buying "silk" currency to add insane stats to your character, lowering the XP gain to force people to buy XP boosts etc. It was disgusting to hear that some people actually are that gullible to buy into that.
I have been talking at my gym with someone who has been playing Silkroad for 10 years and doesn't want to play something else.
I've heard they charge for premium plus account to be able to "have a spot" in the server, buying "silk" currency to add insane stats to your character, lowering the XP gain to force people to buy XP boosts etc. It was disgusting to hear that some people actually are that gullible to buy into that.
So this guy wants to force us to adopt to this system?
He's not even attempting to justify it?
Or pretend it has some benefit to us?
His entire attitude is "Yeah we know it's crap but it's what all the cool kids are doing these days so just get with the program"?
May his crops be riddled with disease and his spouse be unfaithful to him. That's all I got. Fuck everything about this statement and attitude, I cannot find any redeeming factors.
He's not even attempting to justify it?
Or pretend it has some benefit to us?
His entire attitude is "Yeah we know it's crap but it's what all the cool kids are doing these days so just get with the program"?
May his crops be riddled with disease and his spouse be unfaithful to him. That's all I got. Fuck everything about this statement and attitude, I cannot find any redeeming factors.
Free To Play works well for certain types of games. Hearthstone, for example, is a pretty good free to play game.
But the idea that Free to play can even apply to many genres is stupid. How could you possibly make a free to play Mario or Megaman game, for example? It would break the core of the game. And what about a Metroidvania? It just doesn't work. In fact, most core game genres don't really work as FTP games.
This guy might as well have said "I don't know anything about game design and I really, really want to be hated by gamers."
But the idea that Free to play can even apply to many genres is stupid. How could you possibly make a free to play Mario or Megaman game, for example? It would break the core of the game. And what about a Metroidvania? It just doesn't work. In fact, most core game genres don't really work as FTP games.
This guy might as well have said "I don't know anything about game design and I really, really want to be hated by gamers."
Same here, I've got 500 games on steam I still need to play, plus my consoles, this idiot seems to think everyone is addicted to the newest shiniest games and can't/won't play anything less. While there are some shallow people like that I'd like to think most players wouldn't trade their dignity for slightly more particles esp now that graphics have practically hit the peak with nowhere for them to go.Darth Sea Bass said:
Are you guys really...really...that frigging stupid? Exactly...what KIND of candy do you have over there? Because I'm thinking meth. I made a comment at the R&P section here that my hatred of all the morons in the world is completely without favorites, that my judgement of fools is based upon merit and deed.
This is one such deed.
You, like everyone before you who keeps blurting out this crap, are out of your mind. Fall in line? Like hell! Go peddle your wares somewhere where they haven't heard of you, because this is it. You're done. It's over. You're labeled. You're shit. Nobody's going to want anything to do with you. You're telling the customer what to do...right smack dab in the middle of the time where people don't like that. Apathy is going away. People are getting pissed. You represent one of the many companies who will be frantically spinning their wheels with no headway until death.
This is one such deed.
You, like everyone before you who keeps blurting out this crap, are out of your mind. Fall in line? Like hell! Go peddle your wares somewhere where they haven't heard of you, because this is it. You're done. It's over. You're labeled. You're shit. Nobody's going to want anything to do with you. You're telling the customer what to do...right smack dab in the middle of the time where people don't like that. Apathy is going away. People are getting pissed. You represent one of the many companies who will be frantically spinning their wheels with no headway until death.
Not even gonna' waste more time than necessary with such statements. One good laugh and then i proceed onwards. With DkS 2 and BoI:Rebirth coming my next ~300-500 hours gameplay are set for this year anyway.
Push comes to shove my friends and i will stick to our steadily growing numbers of boardgames, P&P RPGs and MTG - and replaying old stuff which those greedy cunts can't take away from you.
100% F2P leads to badly designed games, because every game has to be built around the monetization. If i just slightly try to fathom what Dark Souls or Deus Ex would look like in such a world >.> *shiver*
Push comes to shove my friends and i will stick to our steadily growing numbers of boardgames, P&P RPGs and MTG - and replaying old stuff which those greedy cunts can't take away from you.
100% F2P leads to badly designed games, because every game has to be built around the monetization. If i just slightly try to fathom what Dark Souls or Deus Ex would look like in such a world >.> *shiver*
Dude, just shut up. Your "fall in line" attitude is not doing you any favors, and this is coming from a guy who spends most of his spare time on TF2 and Dota 2.
"Free to play" games are all to often "Free to wait or give me money", actively putting obstacles, that you can pay to remove, in the way of the player. This is not, in the slightest, appealing to me and I've so far avoided all games that are free to play on these grounds. I don't want the damn game pestering me to buy things, just like I don't want to pay to watch TV-commercials.
F2P in itself isn't bad although it can be and is a lot of the time. That being said, this guys point is essentially that once all your alternatives are taken away then you'll naturally love all the options that you have.
Let's say you're deathly allergic to peanuts and you get trapped on a desert island with a few people and a lifetime supply of peanut butter and bread. Of course you can eat only bread and you'll survive, but now take that bread away and your trapped on a desert island with an endless supply of food that will kill you if you eat it, and a whole bunch of well-fed people. And while your starving to death trying to make the decision between death by food or death by starvation, according to this guys argument "free to Play" Games aren't gonna sound to bad then now are they?
Let's say you're deathly allergic to peanuts and you get trapped on a desert island with a few people and a lifetime supply of peanut butter and bread. Of course you can eat only bread and you'll survive, but now take that bread away and your trapped on a desert island with an endless supply of food that will kill you if you eat it, and a whole bunch of well-fed people. And while your starving to death trying to make the decision between death by food or death by starvation, according to this guys argument "free to Play" Games aren't gonna sound to bad then now are they?
free to pay model certainly brings in a lot of money for them, but what the developers need to realize is that with free to pay you have to actually make a good game and expect people to buy it later, becasue they can no longer ask full price ahead for a shitty one.
I also would like to make a prediction that gamers will "Fall in line" with this model as much as they "Fell in line" with always on Xbox.
I also would like to make a prediction that gamers will "Fall in line" with this model as much as they "Fell in line" with always on Xbox.
Not like they had much of a reputation before, but this is not going to speak well of their practises.
I'm going to enjoy watching them crash; I'll give it a year.
I'm going to enjoy watching them crash; I'll give it a year.
Doubtful. The F2P+microtransactions model can work well in many genres, but I'm sure even this game guru hasn't come up with an idea to make this model work properly with, say, triple-A story-driven single player experiences like The Last of Us or Bioshock: Infinite.
Then again, now that I think about it... having to type in your credit card number as fast as you can in order to pay Elizabeth for the stuff she throws at you, that could make for a whole new gameplay element.
Then again, now that I think about it... having to type in your credit card number as fast as you can in order to pay Elizabeth for the stuff she throws at you, that could make for a whole new gameplay element.