More Vampire stuff? Damn it all. I'm sick of these modern Vampire stuff. I like my vampires as they were when I was a kid. They lived in old castles, wore black capes, had purple skin, and loved to count. GRRRR!
CCP Teases New Vampire: the Masquerade MMO
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Hah, the person above who mentioned twilight,WOD is everything that horrifies those fans, vampires are properly portraited as monsters, predators and as far from gay mutants as possible.
Vampire the masqerade was a great game if quite buggy, here's hoping ccp can turn another great offering out- i was suprised to hear about white wolf merging with ccp.
Vampire the masqerade was a great game if quite buggy, here's hoping ccp can turn another great offering out- i was suprised to hear about white wolf merging with ccp.
There was a TV show?
Spy Class in a normal mmo would probably be agile - backstab ability - stealth ability - hide in shadows etc.
In eve being a spy means you literally befriend the enemy - get invited to join their clan/corp. Then you relay intel via your handler while trying to make sure no one points the finger at you.
CCP know how to do intrigue and political drama.
Like how others mentioned - eve online is all about political intrigue and subtlety. Being a "spy class" in eve online isn't like how you would imagine it in other mmos.ark123 said:
Spy Class in a normal mmo would probably be agile - backstab ability - stealth ability - hide in shadows etc.
In eve being a spy means you literally befriend the enemy - get invited to join their clan/corp. Then you relay intel via your handler while trying to make sure no one points the finger at you.
CCP know how to do intrigue and political drama.
Sneaklemming said:
Pink_Pirate said:
Oh, I agree that if you manage to convince the EVE people to play with vampires this would work.Arachon said:
Of course, none of the people who replied that actually play EVE.
EVE is about corporations, their player base is 30 years old with a high paying job ON AVERAGE, and there are parts of the game that are literally exactly like running a successful company. Finance, projection graphs, high executives, etc.
Now tell me you think these people would be willing to join a game where you play a vampire and use mystical powers. Someone convince me this isn't going to be 90% teenagers trying to rip each other's heads off and teenager girls trying to date Edward.
Sneaklemming said:
Yep, it was called "Kindred: The Embraced" and it ran for a whole eight episodes.
Are you sure? White Wolf have been hammering home the New World of Darkness line for quite some time now. I'm a fan of both - preferring old in some cases and new in others - but unless they plan on reprinting OWoD, I don't see why they'd do this.Keava said:
What would be ideal in my mind is New WoD mechanics (core mechanics, that is, as from the WoD corebook) with Old WoD's metaplot and Clans (using modified nWoD V:tR mechanics). That would suit an MMO very well, in that it allows for a great deal more NPCs, quests and defined goals than the open-ended New Vampire. There's an established threat, background, and lifespan for events to occur over.
I'm not a fan of oWoD's core mechanics, especially in Live/Mind's Eye Theatre.
(Context: I'm a regular player of Old Mage in MET, New Vampire in MET, New Mage in tabletop, and have read and dabbled in a variety of Old/New settings, the most complex being Old Vampire-Sabbat in Live)
You know, I'm not wholly excited about this game... but I hope desperately it does well. If a socio-political MMO game manages to work, and function properly, it could be the beginning of a small revolution to 'true' MMORoleplay games.
Not as in, deliberately roleplaying in the current sense (wonderful addition though that is to any MMO), but a game where your character's story and motivations are as much a part of the game as the fighting, if not moreso.
I'm really interested how they're planning on doing this, in fact. 'Only other game made a serious stab at this was URU Live, and that did so by doing.. well, nothing, but instead having the staff get directly involved with the gameplay to encourage direct roleplaying. Actually building game systems around such things.. well.
Not as in, deliberately roleplaying in the current sense (wonderful addition though that is to any MMO), but a game where your character's story and motivations are as much a part of the game as the fighting, if not moreso.
I'm really interested how they're planning on doing this, in fact. 'Only other game made a serious stab at this was URU Live, and that did so by doing.. well, nothing, but instead having the staff get directly involved with the gameplay to encourage direct roleplaying. Actually building game systems around such things.. well.
This looks like fun.
Let's see Edward run through a train and then crash through the end...
Now, I just have to read all the background material so I'm not COMPLETELY confused. Only partially. Ah hell, I'll be confused either way.
*Goes back to corner
Let's see Edward run through a train and then crash through the end...
Now, I just have to read all the background material so I'm not COMPLETELY confused. Only partially. Ah hell, I'll be confused either way.
*Goes back to corner
I play eve - I run a pvp 0.0 corp.ark123 said:
Eve is great because of the players sure - but CCP made the game so that the players could take control. It's design.
The finance and statistics rubbish is for the industry people - part of the mechanics. You need people skills to run a corp - not an monthly projection graph. I don't think I've ever had to deal with that stuff.
The most executive thing I have to do is attend a twice monthly alliance meeting.
Thinking eve is all about finance is one of those incorrect presumptions about the game.
Um, i Play EvE and i loved Bloodlines, so i know i'd play it. Looks Quaility Craic.ark123 said:
Ive never played any of the WoD table top games but my d&d dm used to and has some of the books. Ive looked through the vampire: the requium and have been been wanting to play (sadly not a lot of people around here want to be vampires) I'll check out this MMO for sure
When I heard about the WoD game a few years back I was hoping they would allow you to play other factions.
The Leeches were never really my cup of tea (I was more of a Garou player myself) but I can certainly understand their decision to base it on the Vampire franchise.
For one it's the more popular of the two and as a matter of play balance you really can't have a bunch of Werewolves running around killing everything in sight.
The question is, does this take place in the new or old World of Darkness?
It really doesn't make any concrete references that would clarify, but based on the trailer making mention of "...each flaunting a dying power, tortured by their boundless appetites." I have to assume it's New WoD.
One of the systems introduced into Requiem was the idea that the stronger and older the Vampire becomes the more it has to feed until it reaches a point where only the blood of another Vampire or Supernatural creature can sustain it. (If I'm wrong and this wasn't a new addition to the setting I apologize. I'm not about to scan through both core rulebooks just to verify)
Is that absolute proof of the setting? No, but it's really the only thing in the trailer that seems to lean one way or the other.
Plus, from a more realistic standpoint, White Wolf has been pretty steadfast in their decision to keep the old WoD dead and buried and only move forward with their new system.
Lastly, New or Old, where the hell was the Prince of the city during all this? Clearly the vampires under his/her watch have been creating progeny like nobodies business.
The Leeches were never really my cup of tea (I was more of a Garou player myself) but I can certainly understand their decision to base it on the Vampire franchise.
For one it's the more popular of the two and as a matter of play balance you really can't have a bunch of Werewolves running around killing everything in sight.
The question is, does this take place in the new or old World of Darkness?
It really doesn't make any concrete references that would clarify, but based on the trailer making mention of "...each flaunting a dying power, tortured by their boundless appetites." I have to assume it's New WoD.
One of the systems introduced into Requiem was the idea that the stronger and older the Vampire becomes the more it has to feed until it reaches a point where only the blood of another Vampire or Supernatural creature can sustain it. (If I'm wrong and this wasn't a new addition to the setting I apologize. I'm not about to scan through both core rulebooks just to verify)
Is that absolute proof of the setting? No, but it's really the only thing in the trailer that seems to lean one way or the other.
Plus, from a more realistic standpoint, White Wolf has been pretty steadfast in their decision to keep the old WoD dead and buried and only move forward with their new system.
Lastly, New or Old, where the hell was the Prince of the city during all this? Clearly the vampires under his/her watch have been creating progeny like nobodies business.
Uhm i play eve, its not just the players at work. Its a combination of the players and a game system that allows and encourages social interaction at high level. Probably the biggest reason is the fact that when you loose a ship it gone, it doest re spawn, you dont get your money back (unless you bought insurance, but that doesnt even apply to t2 and faction ships), hell if your dumb enough not to update your clone you might loose years worth of skill training, not to mention implants priced in the 100 millions.ark123 said:
My point is loss in EVE is very real, so you dont have dipshits running headlong into combat, respawning and doing it again. Accumulation and loss of resources is the core driving force behind most of the eve player base, personal honour (or dishonour) come in a close second.
Whatever CCP do with WoD it will probably be something original and innovative, and im sure they will find a way to include political and social interaction in there. Besides, part of what makes EVE great is that when players make suggestions, CCP listen.
