CCP Teases New Vampire: the Masquerade MMO

[Aethren]

This seems interesting.

Lasombre in da HOUSE! Represent!

 

[Nyanya]

Hopefully the fact that they said it is based on Vampire:The Masquerade means it actually will be based off that edition rather than the 'new' Vampire:The Requiem. It means there maybe will be chance of playing Malkavian or Toreador which were cut out in streamlined Requiem.

I'm personally quite happy that they're going with The Masquerade as well (because I know that setting a lot better than The Requiem), but in fairness as I understand it both those still exist in The Requiem. Malkovian (yes, with an 'o') are a Ventrue Bloodline and Toreador are a Daeva Bloodline. In fact the only of the seven original Camarilla clans (counting Gangrel) that doesn't make a reappearance in The Requiem (as far as I know) is Tremere (though there are various forms of blood magic). Which is a pity since that has always been my favorite clan.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

There was a TV show?

Yep, it was called "Kindred: The Embraced" and it ran for a whole eight episodes.

Was it good?

Not really. There's a reason it only ran for eight episodes.

I think the main reason is that the Prince died during filming....

 

[Bobbovski]

Hopefully the fact that they said it is based on Vampire:The Masquerade means it actually will be based off that edition rather than the 'new' Vampire:The Requiem. It means there maybe will be chance of playing Malkavian or Toreador which were cut out in streamlined Requiem.

I'm personally quite happy that they're going with The Masquerade as well (because I know that setting a lot better than The Requiem), but in fairness as I understand it both those still exist in The Requiem. Malkovian (yes, with an 'o') are a Ventrue Bloodline and Toreador are a Daeva Bloodline. In fact the only of the seven original Camarilla clans (counting Gangrel) that doesn't make a reappearance in The Requiem (as far as I know) is Tremere (though there are various forms of blood magic). Which is a pity since that has always been my favorite clan.

MalkAvian actually exists in Vampire the requiem as well... But "malkavianism" is more like a disease rather then a real clan. One of the players in my Vampire the requiem group plays a malkavian who originally was a deava before she was infected.

 

[deadxero]

This will suck. V:TM is based on political intrigue and subtlety, MMOGs are based on combat and point-and-click. You can't program NPCs to omit information that changes in real time to certain clans and reveal it to others, and NPCs can't gage how important real-time information is. So unless they plan on having a game where literally every character is a playing character and every player is serious about their role playing (will never happen online), it has to suck.
The other possibility is a vampire-based WoW, but that's just more of the same and will fail.

Try playing EVE. CCP wipes their ass with conventional... cough WoW... MMO mechanics. And if they take an approach similar to EVE, everything is player driven, then politics and intrigue are very achievable.

This has the potential to be an awesome game.

 

[Arachon]

The mod that was caught giving free Titans to BoB.
Then the Ghost Training bullsh*t they pulled.
On top of that there is also the hideous mod bias towards the southern colition/BoB against the north, resulting in the north loosing capitals and titans, and BoB not.

If you get involved in the 'politics' of EvE aka 0.0 sector, you really see how f**king sh*t CCP are when it comes to unbiased moderation of EvE online & ultimately how poorly they treat their customers.

Right....

First of all, "free titans"? Are you referring to the t20 scandal? Wasn't that about T2 blueprints?

Ghost training... Well... It's a tangled issue... I can see why people were upset when they removed it, but then again, I can see why they did remove it, they are a business after all, that offers a service in return for payment. They can't have people taking advantage of said service without paying, that's uneconomical.

And besides, when ghost training was taken out, everyone and their dog was all up in tears about how they would cancel all their 500 subscriptions, and how the game would die the next day, yet two years later, the game shows no signs of "dying".


"Mod bias against NC"? I'm sorry, but that comes of as somewhat insubstantial

I don't agree with everything CCP has done, by far, but they're easily one of the most innovating and transparent developers out there, who has taken a relatively new medium and done something unique with it, rather than churn out carbon-copies of popular games, hoping to make an easy buck.

Of course they have flaws (t20 scandal being an excellent example of that), everything has. And you have to remember that EVE is CCP's first game, development started with 24 people, and they've practically picked up what they know "on the way". In such a process, there's bound to be falls, but I really wouldn't call them "atrocious", and as a former SWG player, I like to believe that I have a fairly accurate understanding of what "atrocious" handling of an MMOG is.

 

[Logan Westbrook]

I think the main reason is that the Prince died during filming....

Actually he died a few months after the show was cancelled.

 

[infinity_turtles]

Hopefully the fact that they said it is based on Vampire:The Masquerade means it actually will be based off that edition rather than the 'new' Vampire:The Requiem. It means there maybe will be chance of playing Malkavian or Toreador which were cut out in streamlined Requiem.
On the other hand, shame it's not WoD in general, with mages, faerie, werewolves, mummies, demon hunters and rest of the happy bunch.

If it has politics and social interaction of Eve im tempted to give it a spin, after all the vampire part of WoD was all about inner affairs.

I've been following this on and off since it was first announced, and I recall them saying at one point it would be NWoD. I'm not a fan of the new fluff for Vampire myself. On the otherhand, hoping they do expand out, which some of the information I've seen before suggests they've at least been looking at including Mage and Werewolf, both of which I prefer the new fluff for.

only thing to be concerned about is this will probably be based on vampire: requiem and not masquerade.

Actually all the news sources that attended the Grand Masquerade event where the game was 'teased' i checked seem to point that it will be based on good old Masquerade.

Are you sure? White Wolf have been hammering home the New World of Darkness line for quite some time now. I'm a fan of both - preferring old in some cases and new in others - but unless they plan on reprinting OWoD, I don't see why they'd do this.

When I heard about the WoD game a few years back I was hoping they would allow you to play other factions.
The Leeches were never really my cup of tea (I was more of a Garou player myself) but I can certainly understand their decision to base it on the Vampire franchise.

For one it's the more popular of the two and as a matter of play balance you really can't have a bunch of Werewolves running around killing everything in sight.

The question is, does this take place in the new or old World of Darkness?
It really doesn't make any concrete references that would clarify, but based on the trailer making mention of "...each flaunting a dying power, tortured by their boundless appetites." I have to assume it's New WoD.

One of the systems introduced into Requiem was the idea that the stronger and older the Vampire becomes the more it has to feed until it reaches a point where only the blood of another Vampire or Supernatural creature can sustain it. (If I'm wrong and this wasn't a new addition to the setting I apologize. I'm not about to scan through both core rulebooks just to verify)

Is that absolute proof of the setting? No, but it's really the only thing in the trailer that seems to lean one way or the other.

Plus, from a more realistic standpoint, White Wolf has been pretty steadfast in their decision to keep the old WoD dead and buried and only move forward with their new system.

Lastly, New or Old, where the hell was the Prince of the city during all this? Clearly the vampires under his/her watch have been creating progeny like nobodies business.

Yeah, pretty much everything aside from the Rock Paper Shotgun thing says it'll be based on NWoD. Don't feel like checking right now, but I'm pretty sure that was actually confirmed.

And you're right about older vampires having to feed off other vampires. I don't know if other supernatural creatures can sustain them though. I'd have to check that. But it's considered standard for them to go into forced torpor when they get that powerful and wait for their blood to become less potent before waking up again.

Hopefully the fact that they said it is based on Vampire:The Masquerade means it actually will be based off that edition rather than the 'new' Vampire:The Requiem. It means there maybe will be chance of playing Malkavian or Toreador which were cut out in streamlined Requiem.

I'm personally quite happy that they're going with The Masquerade as well (because I know that setting a lot better than The Requiem), but in fairness as I understand it both those still exist in The Requiem. Malkovian (yes, with an 'o') are a Ventrue Bloodline and Toreador are a Daeva Bloodline. In fact the only of the seven original Camarilla clans (counting Gangrel) that doesn't make a reappearance in The Requiem (as far as I know) is Tremere (though there are various forms of blood magic). Which is a pity since that has always been my favorite clan.

The Tremere(Also called Liches) are now Mages who steal souls and graft them onto their own to sustain their life.

 

[Slaanax]

So many new MMO's that I want to try, I don't have that kind of money or time! I didn't care too much for Eve but it's at least different than Wow, so maybe CCP can make a more unique game. I'm concerned about TOR and 40k games they like a little bit like Wow clones.

 

[DJShire]

Its based off of Requiem? Nuts to that, Masquerade or nothing.

 

[Orcus The Ultimate]

Why does every single good franchise have to go on MMO's nowadays... that pisses me off !

unless it's a free MMO... that would be adequate.

 

[Zer_]

http://www.nvidia.com/object/physx_new.html
Check out the CLOTHING DEMO for some ingame animation that will kill anyone's PC who doesn't have an Nvidia card.

As with anything CCP does there is no way I'd touch the game with anything, especially my cash. Considering there atrocious handling of EvE online, they are a company who would be better off to disappear from gaming all together.

I won't ever sell out to nVidia cards for that reason. At least AMD has the decency to use a Physics engine that isn't proprietary. In lamens terms, they don't fuck over anyone who doesn't have an nVidia card.

 

[Paularius]

Im quiet interested in this aslong as it dosnt follow eve in that it takes two weeks to a month to learn a skill.
Will just have to wait a bit and see some trailers when they get released.

 

[Shaoken]

Its based off of Requiem? Nuts to that, Masquerade or nothing.

Dude read the topic title.

But seriously, can we get some confirmation on this? Because I keep hearing it both ways.

 

[Ewyx]

Rumor is that it'll be based on Vampire The Masquerade.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

I can see alot of Twilight fans playing this.

50 million of them will sign up the first week, then complain when they go out in the sunlight and die instead of sparkle.

 

[Infernai]

On the other hand, shame it's not WoD in general, with mages, faerie, werewolves, mummies, demon hunters and rest of the happy bunch.

....If they factored all of those things into a single game, i wouldn't care what it would cost, i would friggin buy it!

As of the moment, well...i'll probably give it a look.

 

[The Youth Counselor]

Hopefully the fact that they said it is based on Vampire:The Masquerade means it actually will be based off that edition rather than the 'new' Vampire:The Requiem. It means there maybe will be chance of playing Malkavian or Toreador which were cut out in streamlined Requiem.

I'm personally quite happy that they're going with The Masquerade as well (because I know that setting a lot better than The Requiem), but in fairness as I understand it both those still exist in The Requiem. Malkovian (yes, with an 'o') are a Ventrue Bloodline and Toreador are a Daeva Bloodline. In fact the only of the seven original Camarilla clans (counting Gangrel) that doesn't make a reappearance in The Requiem (as far as I know) is Tremere (though there are various forms of blood magic). Which is a pity since that has always been my favorite clan.

The lame Malkovians from the Requiem only superficially resemble their awesome Malkavian counterparts from the Masquerade. First off they aren't even a real clan but some awful venereal disease. Second off, instead of their founder being a powerful antediluvian who was diablerized by his children, he's now just some nutty Ventrue cult leader.

Fuck the Requiem and the new World of Darkness, they suck nine inch dick. Instead of focusing on and highlighting vampires being monsters who do awesome shit like murdering people while hiding their existence from the shadows they focus on lame angsty preppy Ricean vampires who mope around while being romantic.

Just flipping through one of their sourcebooks gives you the impression that it is a trashy goth romance story aimed for lonely young women.