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Now, this is a problem I come across constantly as a skeptical anime fanboy. I often hate one series, for the purpose of this argument, Soul Eater. It had set itself up fucking PERFECTLY to be a brilliant satire of all the popular anime and manga tropes (loudmouthed spiky haired ninja, angsty immature girl who hates sexuality, generically cool dude who the fangirls gush over, et cetera), but failed so terribly at it. It forgot that most of the characters were supposed to be jokes and we're not supposed to give a shit about them but whatever. Two characters within the manga and anime, however, struck me. One in particular. His name: Asura Kishin.

He's something of an Elder God from Lovecraftian stories in the story, something so fucking terrifying that Death himself is worried he might be awakened. And you know what? Death's right to fear him. Within five minutes of pulling himself out of a bag made from his own skin, Asura rips the skin off an immortal werewolf to use as clothing, beats two of the main characters into bloody pulps,then leaves. He beats Death in a fight twice, killing him at one point, creating his own dimension of raw insanity, and kills all but one of the main characters.

And even more amazingly, he's not some generic Captain Planet villain doing this out of sheer evil. He's killing so many people and causing such destruction because he's scared, he's afraid of something, and blames his humanity, particularly his imagination on it. He hates this human weakness, and so he makes himself feel better by killing things and freeing people from what he believes is a curse. He's beautifully Lovecraftian in his philosophy, which might be why I love him so much since HPL is my favorite author.

I love him with all of my heart, along with Chrona, which is why he's my profile pic. And I'm forever enraged that he got placed in this story. Placing him in a story like God of War or Spawn would be absolutely amazing, and would allow for more characterization which I felt he needed.

Topic: Escapists, I ask you, which character would be fucking awesome in another story? Genres will be crossed, physics may be defied, and mediums will be abandoned, but where do you think someone you like would truly excel? Doesn't need to be too specific, just go with your heart.
 

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This is a trick question - there would be loads of characters who would kick ass all over the place, mostly they are held in check by something in their own universe and only that or alternatively, they are just so badass in general that transferring them over would be like introducing a new god to any of the other universes. Say, Dante (I'll use "old" Dante) from Devil May Cry is pretty much immortal and super strong straight off from the bat. He also has a sword that can seemingly cut through anything (well, if you put enough force behind it, I assume. Point is- it can't break and it stays sharp) and two magical pistols with infinite ammo (as in, you don't even need to reload). And that's only his starting point, he only gets more experienced and better equipped with time, including the ability to defy physics (somewhat) and manipulate time (also somewhat).

Few other works, and I'd guess very few, can actually handle Dante waltzing in. If we use Soul Eater as an example, Dante might have a small problem with Death but not really as much with anybody else. Yes, even Asura.

And that's the problem, really - too many characters are just "incompatible" with other works. Heck, I saw vs thread once where Malkav was pitted against Magneto. Rules were simple - no bars, anything ever goes. I honestly didn't know how much asspullery tricks Magneto was capable of, (comes with different writers, decades, and so on in comics, I suppose) but the thread was declared moot by the virtue of Malkav being able to ignore Magneto. As in Magneto stops to exist in relation to Malkav at all. And that's just one of his tricks. Alternatively, take Superman and place him anywhere else (mostly, I guess - it has to have a...yellow star, was it?) and he would be God, basically.

And that's before mentioning characters and things with, quite literally, godlike powers. There are tons of weapons and items that completely erase you from existence, for example, I can't actually think of the number of godlike beings I know of (a four digit number sounds about right).

There is a huge flaw with crossovers. They just don't work most of the time.
 

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I'd have been much more happy to sit through the BBC 6-hour pride and prejudice series if it had Sergeant Coteaz from Timesplitters in it. Even if he was just in the background doing Timesplitters-y stuff. Maybe even with a few timesplitters too. And at the end of each episode he said "It's time to split". At the end Elizabeth falls for him instead of Colin Firth, now THAT is a classic tale of romance.
 

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Kamina or Simon from Gurren Lagann into Neon Genesis Evangelion!

I swear I would love to see the "Let's See You Grit Those Teeth!" punch to Shinji to the point that his depression expell out of him and aswell teaching Shinji a thing or two about manning up!

Don't get me started what it will be like with the Angels against Gurren Lagann or any form of Lagann! It will send the angels packing, Gurren Lagann style!!


Also, Booster Gold from DC comic would thrive in Tiger and Bunny universe (an anime were super heroes are sponsor by real companies)!
 

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The (rest of) the Cullen family from the Twilight series. Am I the only one who sees their potential?
 

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uneek said:
The (rest of) the Cullen family from the Twilight series. Am I the only one who sees their potential?
Super fast, super strong, really hard to injure, no glaring weaknesses. Yeah, they'll even give Dante a run for his money.
 

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I bet Luke Skywalker could've gotten Winnie the Pooh out of that damn rabbit hole much faster than Christopher Robin.
 

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Richard from the Sword of Truth would make a pretty good bad guy in any other high fantasy story I'd say.

Utterly convinced he's doing the right thing, unwilling to consider any course of action but his own and easily dismissing anyone who disagrees as hating life and thus being undeserving of it.

He's even got the whole religion worshipping him personally thing going on.

The guy is a perfect believable villain. Not such a great hero unfortunately.
 

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How I was just thinking about this the other day.

They could fight the Templars who are in league with the Singh Brotherhood of Pirates.

DoPo said:
There is a huge flaw with crossovers. They just don't work most of the time.
See my crossover it works. Both exist in the same time period. Both are relatively normal human beings who fight evil.
 

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Everything would go to shit the moment Ghazghkul Mag Uruk Thraka, the Iron Ork (40K Margaret Thatcher) decided to plot his WAAAGH! against Hogwarts.
 

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WolfThomas said:
How I was just thinking about this the other day.

They could fight the Templars who are in league with the Singh Brotherhood of Pirates.

DoPo said:
There is a huge flaw with crossovers. They just don't work most of the time.
See my crossover it works. Both exist in the same time period. Both are relatively normal human beings who fight evil.
Hold on, I thought the Phantom was from the 1940s, not the Revolution.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
Hold on, I thought the Phantom was from the 1940s, not the Revolution.
Good question. The Phantom aka Ghost Who Walks aka Man Who Cannot Die is a title passed from father to son from the 16th century to the present. Each time a Phantom dies, his son takes up the mantle and keeps fighting piracy and injustice, making him appear as a supernatural being. There's been an unbroken line of Phantoms for more than 20 generations and over 400 years of crime fighting (take that Batman!).

So there would have been a Phantom during the American Revolution.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
Everything would go to shit the moment Ghazghkul Mag Uruk Thraka, the Iron Ork (40K Margaret Thatcher) decided to plot his WAAAGH! against Hogwarts.
Pfahahahahahaha, I want to a film of this now x3

The God-Emperor of Man would probably wipe the floor with anyone and everyone in any story he was inserted into, and then lead Earth (or it's nearest qeuivalent) into a glorious age of peace, harmony, and xenophobia.
 

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DoPo said:
This is a trick question - there would be loads of characters who would kick ass all over the place, mostly they are held in check by something in their own universe and only that or alternatively, they are just so badass in general that transferring them over would be like introducing a new god to any of the other universes. Say, Dante (I'll use "old" Dante) from Devil May Cry is pretty much immortal and super strong straight off from the bat. He also has a sword that can seemingly cut through anything (well, if you put enough force behind it, I assume. Point is- it can't break and it stays sharp) and two magical pistols with infinite ammo (as in, you don't even need to reload). And that's only his starting point, he only gets more experienced and better equipped with time, including the ability to defy physics (somewhat) and manipulate time (also somewhat).

Few other works, and I'd guess very few, can actually handle Dante waltzing in. If we use Soul Eater as an example, Dante might have a small problem with Death but not really as much with anybody else. Yes, even Asura.

And that's the problem, really - too many characters are just "incompatible" with other works. Heck, I saw vs thread once where Malkav was pitted against Magneto. Rules were simple - no bars, anything ever goes. I honestly didn't know how much asspullery tricks Magneto was capable of, (comes with different writers, decades, and so on in comics, I suppose) but the thread was declared moot by the virtue of Malkav being able to ignore Magneto. As in Magneto stops to exist in relation to Malkav at all. And that's just one of his tricks. Alternatively, take Superman and place him anywhere else (mostly, I guess - it has to have a...yellow star, was it?) and he would be God, basically.

And that's before mentioning characters and things with, quite literally, godlike powers. There are tons of weapons and items that completely erase you from existence, for example, I can't actually think of the number of godlike beings I know of (a four digit number sounds about right).

There is a huge flaw with crossovers. They just don't work most of the time.

Which Malkav? Do you mean the World of Darkness Primogen Malkav? Because I wasn't aware he had that power.

On topic: Krillin from DBZ would kick ass outside of the Dragonball universe. He can fly at supersonic speeds, create energy blades capable of chopping almost anything in half, multiply himself, blind people, and shoot super explosive energy blasts, which are remote controlled like Darkseid's Omega Rays, and is super durable. He is only a buttmonkey in the DB universe because of how insanely powerful the villains in that universe are.

Also, with regards to an earlier poster, Sgt. Cortez from Timesplitters is awesome.
 

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Spike Spiegel...Because he's Spike Spiegel. He beat Perriot Le Fou, no other cats out there could handle him.
 

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RelexCryo said:
Which Malkav? Do you mean the World of Darkness Primogen Malkav? Because I wasn't aware he had that power.
The same one (also, you probably mean Antediluvian - Primogen is a member of the vampiric "elite club" in a city). And the power is Dementation 8 - Deny, can be found in Malkavian revised (p.63, for the record) - basically a Malk denies the existence of something and...it really doesn't exist. For them. Can be a baseball bat or a wall - whatever, it passes right through them and the two don't interact in any way. The text suggests that 4th gens can do this to people. Malkav wouldn't have any problem with it, nor with, say, spreading his consciousness (or whatever you want to call it) through everybody in the city, if need be. Or the planet, really. At any rate, Deny is one of the most OP things in existence.
 

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DoPo said:
This is a trick question - there would be loads of characters who would kick ass all over the place, mostly they are held in check by something in their own universe and only that or alternatively, they are just so badass in general that transferring them over would be like introducing a new god to any of the other universes. Say, Dante (I'll use "old" Dante) from Devil May Cry is pretty much immortal and super strong straight off from the bat. He also has a sword that can seemingly cut through anything (well, if you put enough force behind it, I assume. Point is- it can't break and it stays sharp) and two magical pistols with infinite ammo (as in, you don't even need to reload). And that's only his starting point, he only gets more experienced and better equipped with time, including the ability to defy physics (somewhat) and manipulate time (also somewhat).

Few other works, and I'd guess very few, can actually handle Dante waltzing in. If we use Soul Eater as an example, Dante might have a small problem with Death but not really as much with anybody else. Yes, even Asura.

And that's the problem, really - too many characters are just "incompatible" with other works. Heck, I saw vs thread once where Malkav was pitted against Magneto. Rules were simple - no bars, anything ever goes. I honestly didn't know how much asspullery tricks Magneto was capable of, (comes with different writers, decades, and so on in comics, I suppose) but the thread was declared moot by the virtue of Malkav being able to ignore Magneto. As in Magneto stops to exist in relation to Malkav at all. And that's just one of his tricks. Alternatively, take Superman and place him anywhere else (mostly, I guess - it has to have a...yellow star, was it?) and he would be God, basically.

And that's before mentioning characters and things with, quite literally, godlike powers. There are tons of weapons and items that completely erase you from existence, for example, I can't actually think of the number of godlike beings I know of (a four digit number sounds about right).

There is a huge flaw with crossovers. They just don't work most of the time.
Thats my main problem with the ideas of crossovers. Seeing one done right is hard enough to find, but God knows how many horrible crossovers there are where one guy (or girl) ends up completely dominating everything just be virtue of who they are and which universe they were stuck in.
 

RelexCryo

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DoPo said:
RelexCryo said:
Which Malkav? Do you mean the World of Darkness Primogen Malkav? Because I wasn't aware he had that power.
The same one (also, you probably mean Antediluvian - Primogen is a member of the vampiric "elite club" in a city). And the power is Dementation 8 - Deny, can be found in Malkavian revised (p.63, for the record) - basically a Malk denies the existence of something and...it really doesn't exist. For them. Can be a baseball bat or a wall - whatever, it passes right through them and the two don't interact in any way. The text suggests that 4th gens can do this to people. Malkav wouldn't have any problem with it, nor with, say, spreading his consciousness (or whatever you want to call it) through everybody in the city, if need be. Or the planet, really. At any rate, Deny is one of the most OP things in existence.
/Facepalm You're right, I had the Primogen term wrong. Thanks for the info.