Well...I don't see how "Let's kick some ice!" is anything but mangling.OutrageousEmu said:None of the other movies had the dialogue "Mistletoe can be deadly if you eat it. But a kiss can be deadlier if you mean it". All the other Batman movies win. Yes, even Batman and Robin. Say what you will about Freeze puns, they didn't mangle dialogue like that.LiquidGrape said:Actually, I would most certainly disagree with the notion that Begins and TDK were better than Burton's two films.
At least when it comes to Batman Returns, which I still hold as the most thematically substantial adaptation. It juggled biblical retribution and third-wave feminism with BDSM fetishism, among other things. Top that!
The worst line in a Batman film, by the way, is definitely Kilmer's "It's the car, right? Chicks dig the car" from Forever.
Just...eugh.
Now, as for the line you cite, I don't see the problem. Batman Returns obviously works on a level of heightened realism, and the prosaic elements of its script are in tune with that presentation. I would liken it to Wagnerian opera, in a way, considering its reliance on leitmotifs and thematic exaggerations. It's quite an intertextual piece of entertainment, as well, drawing influence and imagery from many varied sources such as the bible and Shakespeare's comedies of error.
I really do like it, but I can certainly understand if it isn't to everyone's taste. Nolan did manage to render the idea of Batman as a semi-realistic construct quite believable, and that's certainly a feat in and of itself.
- I just prefer the more operatic approach to that character.
P.S
On the subject of Returns' leitmotifs, I just have to include this piece of music from the soundtrack.
I absolutely love how it tells you which character is portrayed or alluded to at each particular moment, from Penguin's glockenspiel to Catwoman's strings and Batman's orchestral fanfare. The texture of it all is just gorgeous, I think.
D.S