Clarification needed: Why do women LOVE Twilight?

[Stormcloud23]

He must have a dick made of chocolate that shoots money or something....

 

[oopsdidn'tmeanto]

EDIT: @TorturedHylianSoul (Nice name, BTW), that has got to be the most articulate thing I've heard a "young 'un" post on this site yet (I mean, you used real English and everything)...I work with Special Needs Kids in a high school and the sheer amount of ignorant bullshit I'm exposed on a daily basis, from the "normal" kids, even in "fly on the wall" situations, is enough to make me want to weep for the younger generation...you've restored my faith enough, I think I'll make it to June yet.

LAWLk wUt"s R33l eNGLUcH!!!1

I suppose I could say I feel for you with the "fly on the wall" experience, (trust me- I DO), yet somehow, I can't help but feel vain in those types of situations.

... Screw it, I'm surrounded by ignorant hollows. One of my best friends is in Special Needs, (expecting an ignorant troll to respond to this), and she is more insightful than many people I know. Seriously.

If these kids are the future, my life is going to be oh-so-fun.

 

[Alex_P]

Now, as far as the relationship between the main characters goes: It's unhealthy. But so are the relationships in 99% of things you are going to watch, read, or play. It's unhealthy, but it has an alluring aspect to it that draws many fans worldwide in. The suspense of what -could- happen in this type of relationship keeps people reading.

Generally, how you write matters more than what you write. There's a huge difference between depicting something to in order to talk about and depicting something because you like it, and which one you're doing is obvious from the text itself.

If just you write down your sexual fantasies uncritically -- which is the common criticism leveled against Meyer and, indeed, something she herself has admitted to doing -- it's just masturbatory wish-fulfillment fiction.

People read and write this stuff all the time -- why, it's the bread and butter of fanfiction. It can be fun. But it's still just masturbatory wish-fulfillment fiction.

-- Alex

 

[TheSKSpecial]

Since when is exercising "massive self-control" evidence of being "psychologically chained up"? Edward is constantly denying his own animal desires in order to keep her safe. You know what that's called? Love. The real kind. The kind that's synonymous with sacrifice (which you see very little of in Hollywood romances). And there's a reason we're talking about Edward Cullen right now and not Brad Pitt's or Ryan Reynold's latest characters. Cullen's character has caused such a stir lately not because of his looks, but because he shows real love to his girl by making HER interests his top priority.

They love him because he's a *****? Seriously? Because he puts all of her whims above his own? If that's the case, this world's really is becoming a pussy-whipped, Brady-Bunch version of itself.

 

[Stormcloud23]

Eddy sparkles too...

 

[LewsTherin]

Well, according to the thread title, I must not be a woman.

But really, its just a generic coming-of-age story that's oriented towards young girls, so whatever.
Frankly, I found... What was that called. "City of Ashes" or something like that.
Well, while driving on long trips, listening to books on CD is a way to be amused. Unfortunately, we've exhausted most of 'em, and were scraping the bottom of the barrel for something, and found it.
Just imagine Twilight crossed with Harry Potter.
Special stick used for magic? Check.
Vampires? Check.
Secret, organized society of magical people? Check.
Angsty, teenage protagonist? Check.
Flying motorcycle? Check.
(Actually, it was a vampire motorcycle. Only some of them can fly, apparently.)

Without having to actually go through the labor of reading the damned thing, I was granted hours of amusement.

I also have read this. It isn't bad. It isn't good, but it isn't bad. It's like having a root canal whilst under anaesthesia. It could be far, far worse.

 

[oopsdidn'tmeanto]

Eddy sparkles too...

*spits out nonexistent drink*

 

[TheSKSpecial]

http://www.the-editing-room.com/twilight.html

^^^
Sums it up pretty well, imo.

 

[Samurai Goomba]

Because people like crap. If that's not true, explain the popularity of Michael Bay or Uwe Boll.

Remember the Beany Babies craze? Yeah.

Oh, and Lestat rocks. Probably the best vampires of all time, however, are Alucard from Hellsing and Dio Brando from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. Those guys are about as faithful to the original concept as you can get.

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

[TheSKSpecial]

Because people like crap. If that's not true, explain the popularity of Michael Bay or Uwe Boll.

Remember the Beany Babies craze? Yeah.

Oh, and Lestat rocks. Probably the best vampires of all time, however, are Alucard from Hellsing and Dio Brando from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. Those guys are about as faithful to the original concept as you can get.

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Props for Dio, but it's not the same without the "WRYYYYYYY", or the Steam Roller.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbArvIqZzkI

 

[PersianLlama]

I tried reading a page of Twilight because my friend asked me to. It was worse than Jane Eyre, and I thought that task was impossible to accomplish.

Edit:

I am more confident than you; I have an ego to declare that I am "better" than you.

And I have the ego to respond with "No".

*Grins* And I have the persistence and utter, disgusting stubbornness to tell you that you are wrong.

Now sir, I also contain within me the persistence to declare I am correct.

 

[spethalo]

Twilight is a load of shit created from a woman's brain who thinks the "perfect" guy really does exist... but in the form of a pedophiliac vampire who glistens in the sunlight(WTF IS THAT ALL ABOUT??? since when did vampires EVEN GO OUT IN THE SUNLIGHT!!). I was forced to view the movie because my girlfriend loves the books and so does my my gay friend.

I would not recommmend this movie to a flee-ridden rabbid dog faoming out the mouth unless that theater was filled with tons of twilight lovers and the dipshit who plays edward, who spends more time studdering his words and sounding like a complete retard while looking as visually appealing as thousands of dead babys infected with bubonic plague, thrown in a ditch filled with old semen and semen-filled vomit. the only thing i really liked about this movie is the stunning view of the lake. Seriously it's like 20 minutes of the movie of the border-line emo chick and the mentally challenged vampire in a tree, with the camera spinning around them slower than grandma behind the wheel of a car but i digress. The area it was set in is stunning just ruined by the constant focusing in on the anorexic teen with misquito bite tits and the yellow(yes yellow not gold for those of you who read the book... yes i read it and all i can say is 300 pages of girly dribble cause i can't bring myself to give it the grace of calling it shit.)

 

[KungFuMaster]

EDIT: @TorturedHylianSoul (Nice name, BTW), that has got to be the most articulate thing I've heard a "young 'un" post on this site yet (I mean, you used real English and everything)...I work with Special Needs Kids in a high school and the sheer amount of ignorant bullshit I'm exposed on a daily basis, from the "normal" kids, even in "fly on the wall" situations, is enough to make me want to weep for the younger generation...you've restored my faith enough, I think I'll make it to June yet.

LAWLk wUt"s R33l eNGLUcH!!!1

I suppose I could say I feel for you with the "fly on the wall" experience, (trust me- I DO), yet somehow, I can't help but feel vain in those types of situations.

... Screw it, I'm surrounded by ignorant hollows. One of my best friends is in Special Needs, (expecting an ignorant troll to respond to this), and she is more insightful than many people I know. Seriously.

If these kids are the future, my life is going to be oh-so-fun.

I think ROFL'd for a second...

Anyway, I know how you feel, it was the same thing when I was in high school (look at me talking like it was so long ago...), it's just that I get paid to deal with it now. The trick is finding the balance between knowing when to keep your mouth shut and when to use the verbal beatdown...hell, I employ verbal judo at least once a day, but it's really unfair because I am SO much smarter than these kids (the mainstreamers, before anyone gets the wrong idea),who have access to twice as much information as I used to...and I'm glad one of your Besties is special needs, those are some of the most honest, good-hearted people I've ever met.

--Don't be ashamed of being intellectually superior, but watch out for your hubris, I guess would be the main bullet point of the presentation...

[/rant]

 

[white_salad]

Something every gamer can relate to: Zombies.

Basic concept: Zombies are undead creatures that feast on human blood and attack in a violent manner; if you are bitten, you are turned.

Left 4 Dead: No Explanation. Sh** happens.
Resident Evil: Unleashed Virus by an Underground Organization, and later on, leeches infesting the brains.
Original Zombies: Slow.
Zombies in games like Resident Evil: Fast.

Some Zombies in games/movies learn; others don't. Some are slow, some are fast. Infection type varies. But at the end of the day: They are still a -fictional- type of entity, much like a Vampire. In which case you cannot pin a specific set of characteristics to it. That, my fellow games, is fact.

True, but in all of these things, they slightly changed the zombie. They made tweaks, and differences to make them unique to themselves. However, they kept to the core of the zombie. Likes human flesh, pump enough ammo into them, or destroy their brain they die. But my problem is that Twilight changed them at the core. Mainly the whole sunlight thing. It's changing them to something they aren't. What if zombies became humans, meaning they died with one bullet shot, or a stab or whatever. And the vampires eating animal blood instead of humans. Same thing. if zombies didn't eat humans, they eat sheep and cows, they lose that horror apeal and pretty much what they are. The thing that makes them scary is the cannibalistic side. If they didn't kill humans, they'd be just like other animals, killing for food.

 

[Iolair]

Girls like it.

Women don't.

 

[shadow skill]

Something every gamer can relate to: Zombies.

Basic concept: Zombies are undead creatures that feast on human blood and attack in a violent manner; if you are bitten, you are turned.

Left 4 Dead: No Explanation. Sh** happens.
Resident Evil: Unleashed Virus by an Underground Organization, and later on, leeches infesting the brains.
Original Zombies: Slow.
Zombies in games like Resident Evil: Fast.

Some Zombies in games/movies learn; others don't. Some are slow, some are fast. Infection type varies. But at the end of the day: They are still a -fictional- type of entity, much like a Vampire. In which case you cannot pin a specific set of characteristics to it. That, my fellow games, is fact.

True, but in all of these things, they slightly changed the zombie. They made tweaks, and differences to make them unique to themselves. However, they kept to the core of the zombie. Likes human flesh, pump enough ammo into them, or destroy their brain they die. But my problem is that Twilight changed them at the core. Mainly the whole sunlight thing. It's changing them to something they aren't. What if zombies became humans, meaning they died with one bullet shot, or a stab or whatever. And the vampires eating animal blood instead of humans. Same thing. if zombies didn't eat humans, they eat sheep and cows, they lose that horror apeal and pretty much what they are. The thing that makes them scary is the cannibalistic side. If they didn't kill humans, they'd be just like other animals, killing for food.

Your argument would make sense if only there were not concepts of "zombies" that did not involve cannibalism.

 

[Hey Joe]

Twilight: Non-threatening mush about vampires (dangerous boys)

It's the best of both worlds

 

[white_salad]

Something every gamer can relate to: Zombies.

Basic concept: Zombies are undead creatures that feast on human blood and attack in a violent manner; if you are bitten, you are turned.

Left 4 Dead: No Explanation. Sh** happens.
Resident Evil: Unleashed Virus by an Underground Organization, and later on, leeches infesting the brains.
Original Zombies: Slow.
Zombies in games like Resident Evil: Fast.

Some Zombies in games/movies learn; others don't. Some are slow, some are fast. Infection type varies. But at the end of the day: They are still a -fictional- type of entity, much like a Vampire. In which case you cannot pin a specific set of characteristics to it. That, my fellow games, is fact.

True, but in all of these things, they slightly changed the zombie. They made tweaks, and differences to make them unique to themselves. However, they kept to the core of the zombie. Likes human flesh, pump enough ammo into them, or destroy their brain they die. But my problem is that Twilight changed them at the core. Mainly the whole sunlight thing. It's changing them to something they aren't. What if zombies became humans, meaning they died with one bullet shot, or a stab or whatever. And the vampires eating animal blood instead of humans. Same thing. if zombies didn't eat humans, they eat sheep and cows, they lose that horror apeal and pretty much what they are. The thing that makes them scary is the cannibalistic side. If they didn't kill humans, they'd be just like other animals, killing for food.

Your argument would make sense if only there were not concepts of "zombies" that did not involve cannibalism.

Oh I did not know this...my error *slinks into shadows to hide the shame*

 

[megapenguinx]

Wasn't it all just her wet dream in book form?