Columnist Deems Enslaved Racially Insensitive
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Exactly. Now all we have is people on both side throwing bullshit and stupid arguments to defend their position. We could have a nice talk analyzing the representation of slavery in this game and compare it to the original tale. But no, we are all too busy saying "this is racist" or "there were white slaves too!" which doesn't make slavery any more right or give everyone bank cards when talking about it. Not saying that this game is not treating the subject properly, but let's drop the freaking racist/not racist dichotomy bullshit and start talking in a smart way about games. Maybe it's more complex and harder to do than just stand on your position and say the same thing over and over again but if can't follow the discussion go sit at the kids table.Rooster Cogburn said:
And now I feel like I was ranting over much more than this story in particular.
Modern Warfare: Unitedly Colors of Bennetton?Skullpanda said:
I kinda thought Enslaved was saying "Hey, we're far enough past racism that we can tell stories like this. Hooray! "
Sigh.
if i knew how to put pictures in i would but heres a linkSenaro said:
http://gamingbolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/ensalved-pigsy-092210.jpg
Maybe the guy just wants to cast gamers in a negative light. If that were the case, it would actually make HIM a bigot.Quellist said:
While I agree that this is a case of over-sensitivity, I do have to agree with the columnist that if the character were black and named "monkey" then you can bet your asses that the media would have picked up on it heavily and it would have been lobbied for a ban.
I mean Christ, look at the whole Medal of Honor thing. Every gamer knows that the teams make no difference at all in multiplayer: Red vs Blue, Andrew vs Ryan, Terrorists vs Counter-Terrorists.
Yet the media described being the Taliban in MOH as "Players get to play as the Taliban and earn points for killing American troops." They can twist the logic to however they please and this would have been the case were Monkey a black person.
I mean Christ, look at the whole Medal of Honor thing. Every gamer knows that the teams make no difference at all in multiplayer: Red vs Blue, Andrew vs Ryan, Terrorists vs Counter-Terrorists.
Yet the media described being the Taliban in MOH as "Players get to play as the Taliban and earn points for killing American troops." They can twist the logic to however they please and this would have been the case were Monkey a black person.
I think we're missing the bigger point, here.
Why were the 16th century Chinese so racist? They had to have known that in creating a character who is essentially a slave who is referred to as "Monkey," they would eventually draw unfortunate parallels to events that would occur on a different continent a century later, so that five centuries after the book was written, some pundit somewhere would cry racism about derivative works.
16th century Chinese people, you insensitive racists.
Why were the 16th century Chinese so racist? They had to have known that in creating a character who is essentially a slave who is referred to as "Monkey," they would eventually draw unfortunate parallels to events that would occur on a different continent a century later, so that five centuries after the book was written, some pundit somewhere would cry racism about derivative works.
16th century Chinese people, you insensitive racists.
No. I really couldn't see their point. The game was set in Africa. Also we spent how many games killing white infected?MiracleOfSound said:
OT: This is just a dude trying to increase page-views and get attention.
I'm confused, This Kyle Harvey character actually has a job?..........AS A WRITER!!?!!
How did someone this stupid pull that off. I mean calling resident evil racist was a big leap but it's easy to see how people came to the conclusion but Enslaved is so far removed from anything that could be called racist they might as well be in different solar systems.
This guy is either a total imbecile or a really massive tool.
I'm sorry for my tone but this kind of shit makes me angry........I really want to headbutt this clown.
How did someone this stupid pull that off. I mean calling resident evil racist was a big leap but it's easy to see how people came to the conclusion but Enslaved is so far removed from anything that could be called racist they might as well be in different solar systems.
This guy is either a total imbecile or a really massive tool.
I'm sorry for my tone but this kind of shit makes me angry........I really want to headbutt this clown.
Wow. I encounter some really stupid stuff doing this job, but this...this might be in the top five most stupid things ever.
He's called Monkey because he's based on a character that is...an actual monkey. You can even see from the way he platforms that he's meant to be reminiscent of the animal.
Bet you five bucks he didn't play so much as five minutes of the game, just read a summary on a website, or something.
He's called Monkey because he's based on a character that is...an actual monkey. You can even see from the way he platforms that he's meant to be reminiscent of the animal.
Bet you five bucks he didn't play so much as five minutes of the game, just read a summary on a website, or something.
As someone who is currently studying African-American Culture as a module at university and looking closely at Slave Narratives I have to disagree whole-heartedly (and feel that I'm in a good position to do so) with the no-balls columnist. As most people are saying, he's just trying to stir shit up and fil his column quota.
Although the subtitle "Journey to the West" can be read as African Slave-trade related to people who do not know where it's origins lie.
*sigh* I wonder how long it'll take people to leave these kinds of thing alone.
Although the subtitle "Journey to the West" can be read as African Slave-trade related to people who do not know where it's origins lie.
*sigh* I wonder how long it'll take people to leave these kinds of thing alone.