Counter Strike 1.6 has a pretty bad community, not game ruining, but not fun either. Also, why the complaining on the CSS community? That game's community is much nicer then 1.6.
Communities that ruined the game.
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You're so cool and alt. We're all really impressed.Dreiko said:
OT: I've never really had a problem with camping, noob tubing, etc. in MW2. What I had a problem with was the absolute refusal of Activision to fix the hacks and exploits people had found. I mean, it's your code. Your baby. Show a little interest in it. But once they released it, they pretty much only patched whenever they had to for the latest map pack release.
The people who got Treyarch to kill the Hardline perk.
WTF! that's the only way most people could get gunships and dogs, without getting really lucky.
WTF! that's the only way most people could get gunships and dogs, without getting really lucky.
Let's see...
I liked halo enough before I decided to play online one fateful day.
I never even gave Touhou or Mass Effect a chance because the fans bothered me too much. Mass Effect wasn't as concentrated, but very spread out. Not that I'd really play those games anyways, not really my style (geez I'm gonna get flamed for that)
I couldn't bear to play Call of Duty online with others for more that about 4 matches.
I liked halo enough before I decided to play online one fateful day.
I never even gave Touhou or Mass Effect a chance because the fans bothered me too much. Mass Effect wasn't as concentrated, but very spread out. Not that I'd really play those games anyways, not really my style (geez I'm gonna get flamed for that)
I couldn't bear to play Call of Duty online with others for more that about 4 matches.
All communities have good and bad people.
For example, Halo community can be really obnoxious (like the little kids who scream) or really hilarious (like Rooster teeth). Or WoW, some people can be elitist jerks, and some people can be extremely selfless, friendly, and caring human beings (like my guild when I used to play).
For example, Halo community can be really obnoxious (like the little kids who scream) or really hilarious (like Rooster teeth). Or WoW, some people can be elitist jerks, and some people can be extremely selfless, friendly, and caring human beings (like my guild when I used to play).
I am sorry but I believe I overheard somebody talking about [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]? If I heard correctly I believe that is a hunter weapon.Paragon Fury said:Did someone say Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker?!Nomanslander said:All I have to say is "barren's chat," and for anyone that's played WoW, they know exactly what I'm talking about.
Never has there been a chat room purposely made for trolling like this one. The amount of trolling that goes on there are legendary.
Also, any PC game I play, ever.
Perhaps its just because I'm the anti-thesis of everything the PC gaming community is, but I'm pretty sure I've earned more vote kicks, bans, bad feedback and hate spam than most online.
And its not because I'm a dick either; I get it because I'm too good (or too bad, depending on the game), and I don't bend for any server or clan BS.
Sorry I couldn't resist, I still got some WoW left in me
OT: The WoW community can be really wonderful if you find the right realm and guild though.
TF2, now you can buy your way to success and get bitched at during trading sessions because your novelty hats don't live up to someones high standards. Actually, I never really liked TF2 to begin with but I would still play it from time to time, now its a pain in the ass.
Halo & Modern Warfare, equal amounts.
Sony fanboys ruined a fucking game system, I loved the PS2 and looked forward to the PS3 but the PS3 started out priced for the fanatics and by the time the price came down to a semi-reasonable level it was occupied by idiots frothing at the mouth.
World of Warcraft, another great game occupied by ass-clowns and about 20 people that weren't complete ass-clowns.
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For the positive though, Minecraft has a great community that comes up with awesome ideas to make the game better.
Halo & Modern Warfare, equal amounts.
Sony fanboys ruined a fucking game system, I loved the PS2 and looked forward to the PS3 but the PS3 started out priced for the fanatics and by the time the price came down to a semi-reasonable level it was occupied by idiots frothing at the mouth.
World of Warcraft, another great game occupied by ass-clowns and about 20 people that weren't complete ass-clowns.
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For the positive though, Minecraft has a great community that comes up with awesome ideas to make the game better.
Some people say WoW, but really atleast in my experience about 80-90% of the people are alright. 5% are other realm gerks or idiots in your dungeons or BG's. 5% are your own realm of the same and trade chat trolls so fun to make fun of. Or to egg them on when 2 trolls battle it out.
And 10% are just noobs.
You always get people who just hate you and you hate them. I have many a enemies in WoW before I went horde than back to my old ally server. Most of my old enemies, I don't know what became of them nor care. I'm in a guild with good friends and enjoying raiding, and gankin horde.
Ruined community is CoD, just because of the 12 yr olds and trolls. Funny thing is I want to renew my live and play Black ops since I got it for Christmas. I'm sure it won't be to bad one I get the hang of it again. MWF2 was mostly fine if u turned your mic off..... which I need a new one since I broke mine and its a pain to mute everyone when you can constantly having people leave and join. But I ramble.
And 10% are just noobs.
You always get people who just hate you and you hate them. I have many a enemies in WoW before I went horde than back to my old ally server. Most of my old enemies, I don't know what became of them nor care. I'm in a guild with good friends and enjoying raiding, and gankin horde.
Ruined community is CoD, just because of the 12 yr olds and trolls. Funny thing is I want to renew my live and play Black ops since I got it for Christmas. I'm sure it won't be to bad one I get the hang of it again. MWF2 was mostly fine if u turned your mic off..... which I need a new one since I broke mine and its a pain to mute everyone when you can constantly having people leave and join. But I ramble.
Starcraft 2 isn't a strategy game for everyone. It's less like, say, Advanced Wars, Civilization, or Company of Heroes where you have to think tactically and macro tends to play a bigger role than micro. It's more like Blitzkrieg Chess where you need to be able to react quickly, build and execute strategies on the fly and ultimately play a game where even your queen needs to look out for those pesky pawns.canadamus_prime said:Oh "first order optimal strategy" that makes sense. In other words, who can Zerg Rush who the fastest. Gotchta. ¬_¬Accountfailed said:and that is EXACTLY what I'm talking about.canadamus_prime said:Accountfailed said:WOW 12 MINUTES! A NEW PERSONAL BESTcanadamus_prime said:
You have a point, but in my opinion none is worse than the starcraft 2 multiplayer. Look at CoD, You have fratdicks and angry thirteen year olds playing along with nerds and such. Annoying, but tolerable, while starcraft 2's multiplayer base is made up entirely of nerds being dickheads.
One time during the beta, I had an opponent leave the game because I couldn't tell him how many "operations per second" I could do, It was my second game.
And that's my beef with online strategy games, it's not long before the "strategy" part of the game goes out of the window and into the ground, instead you have 'how fast you can execute the first order operative' matches.
Oh, and I wasn't blaming Blizzard, I was thanking them for giving me the insight not to buy a game for nerds with self-diagnosed "mental issues".
In any case I'll have to take your word for it as I haven't played a game online since Dark Forces II YEARS ago.
Also may I draw your attention to the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory. [http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/3/19/]
"Operations Per Second" haven't heard this of this one either, I'm assuming it is how fast you can do shit in starcraft.
"First order Operative" My bad, I used the wrong term, it's late. I've fixed my original post with the right term and an edit explaining it.
As for "Operations Per Second", yeah kinda what I figured it meant too, but wasn't sure. I can't imagine how that'd be determined though. And unless you're an android or fucking Superman, I can't imagine your "Operations per Second" would be very high; and even then, if I recall my time playing Starcraft, you spent a lot of time waiting on stuff. "We require more minerals" "We require more Vespine Gas" Construct additional Cylons... er I mean Pylons. :Þ
Also your explanation regarding nerds was unnecessary, I got what you meant.
SC2 accelerates things a bit, but it still sticks to that basic game play from SC1.
Ultimately though it does just come back to whether or not you're having fun. If someone else waving their dick in the air ruins it you may need to question why you're even playing online. You just need a thick skin to play online because ultimately you're going to deal with antisocial 13 year olds who need that social bubble the internet creates to shelter them from the terrors of real world interaction. And FOOS (Cheese strategies) are usually un-done by basic level scouting. You'll never get 6 pooled if you spot that spawning pool mid-construction.
And your APM is fairly irrelevant. Beyond a sheer minimum to demonstrate you can play SC2 (or have a pulse for that matter) it does just eventually hit a brick wall where more APM means nothing. The gaming community actually has more respect for a player that can do more with lower APM than the guy who cheeses out his APM doing basically nothing.
As for games ruined by their community? Often times its just not the case. I'd love to say that COD: MW2 got killed by it's community but in all reality there really wasn't anything new in the game. Noob tubes, call in's, w/e. The biggest issue was that the removal of dedicated servers both made it impossible to clear out the scrub sorting weapons and attachments, and also removed the idea that you were beholden to someone other than yourself. You had manners on a COD: MW server because you'd just get banned if you waved your dick around enough.
WoW comes to mind too, but it's Blizzard's fault more than anything else. When you do basically everything with people off-server other than raid it kills the quality of play on both ends, both cross server and within. Ultimately when you can just server transfer away you don't care so much about the plight of your own server, and when you're paired with people you'll never see again ninja'ing that piece of gear seems less significant a decision, and actually doing a quality job matters less. I had more than one asshole DPS ninja a tanking item because I called them out on literally AFK + following through the whole instance. Not that it wasn't going to be replaced in 3 levels anyways but sheesh.
If you want to see what happens to a strategy game where outstanding balance issues don't get resolved for months just look at company of heroes. Broken strategies like pioneer spam (IE: Broken in the sense that when done decently you can't beat it) and kangaroo carrier spam have been in the game for ages and it's killing the community.
Borderlands
I joined the forums pre-release to discuss the game. The sheer amount of stupidity and trolling was on 4chan level. Even the one moderator I encountered was a troll.
I figured if THOSE were the people I'd be playing with, HELL NO. Never bought the game. Don't regret it.
I joined the forums pre-release to discuss the game. The sheer amount of stupidity and trolling was on 4chan level. Even the one moderator I encountered was a troll.
I figured if THOSE were the people I'd be playing with, HELL NO. Never bought the game. Don't regret it.
Left 4 Dead. It started out good but right after L4D2 came out everything went seriously downhill. The community lost all skill and everyone started acting like assholes.
I hear they have some Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker over in Goldshire.Nautical Honors Society said:I am sorry but I believe I overheard somebody talking about [Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker]? If I heard correctly I believe that is a hunter weapon.Paragon Fury said:Did someone say Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker?!Nomanslander said:All I have to say is "barren's chat," and for anyone that's played WoW, they know exactly what I'm talking about.
Never has there been a chat room purposely made for trolling like this one. The amount of trolling that goes on there are legendary.
Also, any PC game I play, ever.
Perhaps its just because I'm the anti-thesis of everything the PC gaming community is, but I'm pretty sure I've earned more vote kicks, bans, bad feedback and hate spam than most online.
And its not because I'm a dick either; I get it because I'm too good (or too bad, depending on the game), and I don't bend for any server or clan BS.
Sorry I couldn't resist, I still got some WoW left in me
OT: The WoW community can be really wonderful if you find the right realm and guild though.
well this is the main reason I became a computer gamer. Games like Day of Defeat and team fortress 2 usually have good communities. Yes, there will be trolls, but you can leave the server if it gets too much or get an admin to kick them. Hell, become an admin. Then of course you can join clans or communities and diverse your library of multiplayer games. Things like ventrillo and team speak help as well.
thats my 2 cents anyway.
thats my 2 cents anyway.
TF2, easily. Everyone else has already said why, so I'll go on to another game I jsut started playing that may already be up there.
Global Agenda. Why? high-level characters camping in the noob areas building rocket turrets and taking the kills they need to complete missions. Seriously, it took me nearly 4 hours to complete a mission where I had to kill just one stinking type of enemy, but that area was so over camped (and this was after I left and rejoined the area multiple times, hoping to get into a a better instance) and every single one had turret campers. Shame too, otherwise a pretty fun game, atleast when played with friends. Couldn't imagine playing it solo....good god, the grinding...
Global Agenda. Why? high-level characters camping in the noob areas building rocket turrets and taking the kills they need to complete missions. Seriously, it took me nearly 4 hours to complete a mission where I had to kill just one stinking type of enemy, but that area was so over camped (and this was after I left and rejoined the area multiple times, hoping to get into a a better instance) and every single one had turret campers. Shame too, otherwise a pretty fun game, atleast when played with friends. Couldn't imagine playing it solo....good god, the grinding...