Concentration Camp Game Canceled Due to Backlash

[Warforger]

Im up for the whole "games as art" deal. but this.. THIS! THIS IS NOT ART!

Jeez.

[sub]Also this would of been huge on 4chan[/sub]

the Holocaust is entirely off-limits for videogames

Well fuck me. I never believed i could take offense in something, yet here it is.

Excuse me while i go get a knife and run screaming through the streets killing anyone in my way.

who was stupid enough to think that this wouldn't be hated greatly across a wide range of groups?? Seriously why would they even start making this game?

Did you guys even read the article? Its about a Jewish uprising in Aushwitz that ACTUALLY HAPPENED! Its not sending Jews to die, one of the creators is very Jewish and was doing it to show people did in fact fight back (as the Jews were famous for not especially the ones that believed God would save them even in the Gas chambers), I don't see how killing Nazi's from the perspective of someone who could actually lose and pay dear for his actions rather then the perspective of a guy who will win the war and not suffer nearly as much is bad. I don't find it distasteful in the least.

 

[shadow741]

I wonder if they'd allow a 'chicken run' game...

They have, I played it when I was a kid and it sucked major balls.

 

[Yelchor]

I disapprove greatly of any organisation or person wanting to exclude media from portraying anything, even if it relates to unpleasant chapters in human history.

Infact, I'd say this is a completely natural phenomenom. After something dramatic and unsettling has occured, we often seek to work with it so that we may continue having a stable mental condition. Today's media's addressing of such matters is the same proccess on a large scale more or less. As pointed out many times on this website and elsewhere, videogames have a unique potential of having the audience -live- the experience. It's not about what the main character will do, it's about what -you- will do.

By not addressing issues such as the Holocaust little justice is given to the grim story and all the people who suffered with it if you ask me. Closing our eyes and holding over our ears will only have made all the hardships in vain with nothing to learn from. We should be -obligated- to shine light upon these issues, no matter how frightening they may be.

In all honesty, a game that focused on immersion and tension-building rather than scores or sport challenges which put the player in the eyes of, lets say a german soldier, could give some truly gripping experiences in my opinion. That not only does history justice, but most importantly, teaches you something.

Thousands of WW2 games have been made, but I have not seen a -single- one that has even tried to approach the subject manner in such a way.

A great disappointment, in my opinion.

 

[spartan1077]

I don't see the problem. If someone played this game, they aren't the Nazis, they're the Jews...err Jew. So then they are killing the "bad guys" and not innocents. I don't see why make a mod for a really old game, but seriously? This isn't that bad.

 

[BenzSmoke]

How is it being trivialized? Because it's in a videogame?

 

[chronobreak]

Just make the game and leak it, what are they gonna do? There must be some lawyer out there with a gripe against the ADL. I can't see this game being shut down in an actual court of law.

 

[Zukhramm]

So who are the ADL and what right do they have to stop games?

 

[Jerious1154]

Does anyone remember 'I have no mouth and I must scream'? Not only are you in a concentration camp for part of the story, but you must come to terms with the horrors you (a Nazi doctor) committed on countless Jews, including children. Making a game about the holocaust is no more trivializing than making a movie about it, though it looks like this one was a bit in bad taste. Who knows for sure.

Until we can get the word "game" to stop meaning "play thing" we will never be able to truly tackle these harsh topics.

I was going to bring this up as well. I disagree with ADL because I don't think that setting a game during the Holocaust necessarily trivializes it. That section of I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream was very mature and very well done and I have no problem with it.

However, setting a shoot-em-up game in a concentration camp most certainly does trivialize the Holocaust, and that is why I think that this particular game is offensive with no redeeming value. I would say the same thing if it was an action movie (no, Inglourious Basterds does not count just because it takes place at the same time as the Holocaust), and I would say the same thing if it was any other genocide (how many games have you ever seen about the Rwandan genocide or the Holodomor?).

 

[SelectivelyEvil13]

the Holocaust is entirely off-limits for videogames

Well fuck me. I never believed i could take offense in something, yet here it is.

Excuse me while i go get a knife and run screaming through the streets killing anyone in my way.

Mind if I join you? My anger's been on the rise and I could really use the release.

OT: Not the most tasteful game, but to simply say the holocaust is off-limits is... Well... Eh... I mean if you can have WWII and other war games where countless die, sure. My problem with the game is that rather than making it a good, tasteful game, they made it a gun run.

As I thought about the issue, I feel the same way because in a general context, why have WWII games been so accepted, let alone any game based on historical events and real life wars?

Of course, the nature of this game in question, and the flippant "gunning nazis for fun" remark, leave me very circumspect regarding the true intentions of this game and its validity overall. But all games have to dodge the Holocaust? That seems like lumping an entire medium together with a Wolfenstein mod, while disregarding any potential good that could be achieved by another party.

Personally, the "art" argument is besides the point because it is a matter that with any media form, be it paintings, novels, movies, and, as shown by this, video games as well, there is a line that can be crossed that becomes disrespectful and offensive.

 

[Cliff_m85]

Pixels.


Pixels.


PIXELS.

All it is are pixels aligned in a certain way. No one is harmed by such pixels. Those people yelling about how it should be banned/cancelled should grow a pair and STFU.

 

[LittleChone]

Who the crude makes a mod for a game that was released in 1992?

Also, why does a game like this have to be canceled? Genis said it himself that he was making this as a tribute to the people who lived in that time, not an insult. How is it that books and movies and all other conventional media can show the holocaust, and yet video games can't? Because people think it's "child's play?" Because people think that the option to fight AGAINST a historical evil is too "mature?" Why not allow gamers to explore this experience, when all other conventional media already has?

 

[06ict381]

I honestly don't thing any topic should be off-limits to any form of media. I probably wouldn't play this game as I wouldn't enjoy it and, from the other posts, I can see that many people would share this opinion. However, just because it may be unpopular does not mean that the developers should not be allowed to make it. It is simply freedom of speech.
There is a famous quote: "Although I do not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death your right to say it."

 

[Islandboy2]

ugh...another company caves to pressure. Then again i'm not mourning the death of this. Still at some point they have to defend their work.

 

[LawlessSquirrel]

...the fact that the ADL believes that the Holocaust is entirely off-limits for videogames has some gamers rather upset with them, particularly the "games as art" crowd.

Yep, that would include me. Not 'burn the heretics!' upset, but that's just not a reasonable demand. You have games about rape, torture, genocide, war etc but one particular event in human history is so bad that it can never be used in a game? That's not right at all.

The holocaust was very bad, few people will deny that, but regardless it's still not the worst thing humans have ever done, nor ever will do, I imagine.

Nothing should be 'off-limits'. That compromises the artistic integrity of any medium. There's things that rightfully are shied away from, but off-limits is a bit far. Especially when worse has already been explored to great acclaim.

 

[andriod]

nothing is off limits to games

 

[ENKC]

So... we're not going to see a Schindler's List adaptation any time soon then?

 

[ADDLibrarian]

They really tried going there? Creators....you get an epic facepalm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-_sABor77E&feature=player_embedded

Besides, it looks like an ugly Doom or Wolfenstein port. Ugh. The creators were beaten with the stupid stick and the game was beaten with the ugly stick.