Concentration Camp Game Canceled Due to Backlash

[Plurralbles]

THAT IS BULLSHIT!

Fuck everyone who gets offended at a fcking game. Shit. No one, or almostno one, is fcking alive from those camps anymore. It's history. Get over it.

It was the msot interesting premise for a game of hte year.

Damnit.

 

[Petromir]

While theres potential for a game based around the event, it needs to be done in a tastefull manner. This was not the way to do it.

That said it doesnt look worth the effort to ban. A modern mindless shooter doing it perhaps.

If you're going to cover a sensitive historical event then do it sensitively, especially in a medium thats not got out of the get attacked at every turn stage. If you dont then you'll make the suituation worse not better.

 

[Faladorian]

the Holocaust is entirely off-limits for videogames

Umm... fuck that. Seriously not to trivialize the holocaust but I don't see why people act like it was the worst genocide in history. It wasn't. And the fact that Israel still uses it as a get-out-of-jail-free card all the time just pisses me off. They should be glad Germany actually admits that the Holocaust happened. The Chinese still deny the Tiananmen Square Massacre. The Turks still deny the Armenian Genocide right before WWI. More people died by the hand of Josef Stalin's Holodomor than people in the Holocaust. People, not just Jews. Genocide is never okay, but the fact that people act like it was the worst thing to ever happen in history is just fueling the fire.

 

[Faladorian]

THAT IS BULLSHIT!

Fuck everyone who gets offended at a fcking game. Shit. No one, or almostno one, is fcking alive from those camps anymore. It's history. Get over it.

It was the msot interesting premise for a game of hte year.

Damnit.

Thank you

 

[Jonluw]

If this hadn't been a seemingly boring wolfenstein mod I'd be really angry.

Since it was though, I'm only sort of annoyed with those PC-dicks.

Edit: Hey, guys, what do you think would happen to campers in a game like this?
Edit2: Hell, I think a game about a concentration camp uprising could be very interesting, and might have a very good story, but one would need a proper budget to realize it, I think.
Edit3: Truly, it baffles me that the developers backed out off this one. Surely they must have anticipated the backlash?

 

[Supernova2000]

And yet no one seemed to have any problems with a German developer releasing a space sim series with the explorative freedom of a concentration camp...

 

[Blind Sight]

To be honest, it didn't sound that tasteful (especially how the creator flips his opinion from 'its just killing Nazis' to 'I did a ton of research), I'd be way more into it if it was a careful analysis of what the Jews really went through in the Holocaust, as well as the history of the unsuccessful rebellion.

No clue if the game would've been shit, but I really don't see much reason in simply banning it. "It's just killing Nazis" sounds like a pretty nice defence to me since its pretty much the same as every other game.

Truth be told I didn't read the entire post, but a game about that could be fucking awesome, and ending with tragedy, even better. I mean, people are really dying over in other wars and we still play their games, is it really all that different? Especially while it's (to my understanding) depicting a Jewish uprising.

The thing is, it wasn't really banned, the creator just cancelled it due to the reaction. I'd like to see a tasteful Holocaust game though, maybe one with stealth mechanics where you have to steal things when soldiers aren't looking and hide them somewhere they won't find them. Also, unlike other games where as you play through you become stronger, in this game the longer you play the weaker your chracter is.

 

[OrdinaryGuy]

As much as I would try to defend "games as art," I'm glad this game didn't make it. It's clearly in bad taste.

 

[teknoarcanist]

I would love to play a straight-up simulation of the Jewish Holocaust experience. You're a craftsman with a family. You play a family/business management sim (farmville meets Sims) for the first two hours.

Then the nazis attack. You spend the first act of the game running from them. You're trying to find where to hide, who to trust, what to sacrifice to remain free. Imagine the opening scene to Inglorious Basterds, from the perspective of the people under the floor.

You get captured. You're taken to Auschwitz. Your children are put in a separate camp. You're forced through the daily tedium of moving stone-piles back and forth to break your spirit. Your character gets gradually more emaciated as starvation sets in--this affects everything from your movement speed, to the state of in-game menus.

Eventually you get a Sophie's-Choice-style moment. Get your family out, at the cost of your own life, or join in the mass camp uprising. One leads you to watch as your whole family is gassed. The other leads to you being lined up against a wall and shot.

Something properly bleak and depressing that has something it wants to say, rather than just "did you know Auschwitz was a thing? Let's put a game there!"

 

[Sneaky-Pie]

Way to have a back bone, guys.

 

[benbenthegamerman]

the Holocaust is entirely off-limits for videogames

Well fuck me. I never believed i could take offense in something, yet here it is.

Excuse me while i go get a knife and run screaming through the streets killing anyone in my way.

Reported. i have seen some completely intolerant comments in my days, but this... just, reported.

OT: Good. I hope this game never gets made. And to all those thinking that this is just like "The only escape is imagination", i would disagree with you. Whereas TOEII was meant to teach people about the true horrors of the holocaust, this is just mearly exploitation at the cost of the lives of those who died at auschwitz. Report me if you will, but i'm serious.

 

[Gigano]

So they thought the best way to keep the memory of persecution sacred would be to discriminate against gaming as a medium? I suppose that makes perfect sense, there's just nothing like suppressing freedom of expression to commemorate human rights violations.

And good job on not defaming gaming, Anti-Defamation-League!

And it's certainly not like you should concern yourself more with that similar game where you play for the other team [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KZ_Manager]. Let's take down the resistance one instead!

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No subject is ever off-limits for anyone. The very enema of defamation is free debate.

 

[Danpascooch]

said that the game was just "blast the Nazis fun"

That is NOT the thing to say when trying to say "our concentration camp game is not offensive"

I don't believe in censorship, but this shouldn't be made, it doesn't look like it handles the material with the taste or maturity it deserves.

 

[Danpascooch]

So they thought the best way to keep the memory of persecution sacred would be to discriminate against gaming as a medium? I suppose that makes perfect sense, there's just nothing like suppressing freedom of expression to commemorate human rights violations.

And good job on not defaming gaming, Anti-Defamation-League!

And it's certainly not like you should concern yourself more with that similar game where you play for the other team [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KZ_Manager]. Let's take down the resistance one instead!

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No subject is ever off-limits for anyone. The very enema of defamation is free debate.

Their statement that it's "off-limits" is nuts, but do you really thing the game treats the issue with the taste and maturity it deserves?

I don't. It's not off limits, but it needs to be carefully and properly portrayed.

 

[RMcD94]

I await the next attempt at a game where you run a Concentration camp and deal with Jews in "Crematoriums, Block 11, Gas Chambers, execution, interrogation and torture areas".

As it is, people will find any reason to stop a game going out that they don't like, be it "That's too bad" or "We should not record any evidence of the holocaust because only word of mouth doesn't frivolize it"

 

[Kurokami]

THAT IS BULLSHIT!

Fuck everyone who gets offended at a fcking game. Shit. No one, or almostno one, is fcking alive from those camps anymore. It's history. Get over it.

It was the msot interesting premise for a game of hte year.

Damnit.

I know a lot of people from the camps.

 

[Malgan]

All wars, genocides, acts of terrors and real life tragedies are off limits to videogamers. Like WW1, Vietnam, WW2 etc, TZA etc.

Wait, you're telling me it has been done? I'm so going to fire my secretary, I didn't get the memo.

On a more serious note, the game was distasteful and should never have been seriously considered. Only part that pisses me off is the "the Holocaust is entirely off-limits for videogames", which only shows us how far we yet have to go as a medium/artform.

 

[Nouw]

Because imagination is the only es-
Sorry guys, we have to monitor what you think to prevent people getting offended.

You know I doubt without them crying over it, we wouldn't even know of this game. Ever.

 

[theultimateend]

Im up for the whole "games as art" deal. but this.. THIS! THIS IS NOT ART!

Jeez.

[sub]Also this would of been huge on 4chan[/sub]

At what point would it have become art?

I don't believe in censorship, but this shouldn't be made, it doesn't look like it handles the material with the taste or maturity it deserves.

Well at least you took the stance of "I don't like it." instead of "I don't like it, so it is not allowed to be made."

I imagine it would have sucked, but I can't recall the last time I played a WWII game that made me go "Oh wow. This is tastefully covering this topic in a mature way."

Quite the opposite usually.

 

[Gigano]

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Their statement that it's "off-limits" is nuts, but do you really thing the game treats the issue with the taste and maturity it deserves?

I don't. It's not off limits, but it needs to be carefully and properly portrayed.

That should be a matter of individual taste, not general availability.

Those who are offended by it can simply refrain from downloading it. It's an indie mod for a 1992 game, it's not like they'd have encountered it unless they actively and specifically sought it out in the first place.