Conflict between Palestine and Israel escalates
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Ah, so it is. The largest cattle station in WA is only 2/3 the size of Israel.
Wowee, how awkward would it be if a big chunk of the Israelis killed by Hamas were actually killed by the IDF?
Boy that'd sure be awkward
Israeli defense minister saying killing journalists is good, actually.
Most politicians would rather rule than listen, and in the rare cases (like this one) where they're forced into a corner and have to listen they'll just say 'it's complicated' to stave off actually representing the public. Even Bernie Sanders, who most people on the Left were pretty cool with, has shown his true face as a politician.
I mean, those pesky journalists are carrying water for Hamas by not letting the Israeli government get away with obvious lies
So let's follow through the chain of events here: a 13 year old kid's friend is gunned down by Israeli police for having a fake gun. Two weeks later, the 13 year old kid has a go at a different officer with a knife. While he was being wrestled to the floor, because 13 years old, a private contractor (merc?) opened fire and killed the police officer on accident. In response, the Israeli government is labeling the child a terrorist and bulldozed his family's house
So let's follow through the chain of events here: a 13 year old kid's friend is gunned down by Israeli police for having a fake gun. Two weeks later, the 13 year old kid has a go at a different officer with a knife. While he was being wrestled to the floor, because 13 years old, a private contractor (merc?) opened fire and killed the police officer on accident. In response, the Israeli government is labeling the child a terrorist and bulldozed his family's house
What the fuck are we doing here? Is Doctors Without Borders part of Hamas now too?
They're trying to save Palestinian lives, and when your war is against a population, that capacity is directly contrary to your military goals.
The IDF want the hospital empty, particularly if (as they claim) there's a massive Hamas HQ in tunnels beneath it.
If MSF have thus far refused to leave, then the IDF will try to drive them out, and that's what we're seeing. The opportunity to kill a load more Palestinians with lack of medical care (including long term, by destroying the hospital and all its infrastructure) is probably viewed as an added bonus by the IDF.
You say that as if the Israeli government had even a pretense of credibility. That is an already-debunked, otherwise wholly unsubstantiated, claim from a government with an established and decades-long track record of outright lying to obfuscate or justify military action, whose officials have gone on-record repeatedly stating genocidal intent (and doubling down just to ensure there's zero room for misunderstanding). North Korea is more trustworthy than Israel at this point -- and to be frank, has been for a long time.
Don't mince words, and don't blame the victim. The Israeli government has decided provision of humanitarian relief to Palestinian civilians is a terrorist act, and pursuant to that they're targeting an international NGO whose mission is to provide humanitarian relief.
Sure. But I also absolutely don't trust Hamas, and I think putting their HQ under a hospital where it's extremely hard to target is exactly the sort of thing they'd do.
If you think I was blaming the victim, you need to cool the fuck down otherwise you're just being as hysterical as the Israeli authorities.
Hold on, wasn't he one of the people directly implicated in the "rogue operation" radicalizing right-wing extremist orthodox Israelis, which eventually "unfortunately lead to" the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin? That name's really, really familiar.
Rhetorical question, he absolutely was.