There you go, now your starting to understand!Flare Phoenix said:Well how do you prove you didn't rape someone?Estocavio said:Thats my point - This is why you need these consent forms with video evidence i mentioned. That way, if you dont have one, its rape. Problem solved.Flare Phoenix said:And also making it harder for people who have actually been raped to come forward since they'll think people will just think they're lying as well.Estocavio said:Not automatically, but keep in mind that employers/employees, family members and the like, are all going to hear about it, and your name will be plastered all over the news.silasbufu said:So if a woman cries rape with absolutely no form of evidence (even medical), then a man would automaticaly go to jail?Estocavio said:snipTipsy Giant said:snipEstocavio said:snip
I find that pretty weird.
While this may be true, how do you know it isnt a case of these false accusations being found to be true due to lack of evidence to the contrary, and thus these statistics showing such results? The point is, you cant really know either way without hard proof, hence the need for very strong evidence of consent.Mathak said:Note that while yes, technically anyone can accuse anyone of rape, statistically false rape reports do not occur any more than, say, false car theft reports.Estocavio said:snipTipsy Giant said:snipEstocavio said:snip
If not more severe, due to damages to reputation, as well as legal expenses, etc.Tipsy Giant said:I totally agree, the punishment for lying about rape should be as severe as the punishment for rapeEstocavio said:snipTipsy Giant said:snipEstocavio said:snip
But just think, its true that it would make it harder for them to come forward, but what if the accusation is false, is proven true due to lack of contrary evidence, and someones life is ruined over some liar?
It isnt exactly easy. Say you sleep with your girlfriend one night, then you wake up the next morning, and shes speaking to some cop about how you threatened her with a knife thats now conveniently next to you and 'made' her have sex with you? Besides saying "Im innocent" theres not enough you can do.
And if they dont take these accusations seriously, then people who have actually been raped get the sharp end.
If they take it more seriously than they do now, falsely accused people get the sharp end.
There are two winning solutions:
A; Do not participate in sexual activity.
B; Get undeniable proof of consent, and consent for a recording of the whole event to avoid allegations of excessive force, assault, 'changing her mind', or anything else.