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Good god, please, please, please make more of these. The three are not only my favorite contributors to the Escapist, they also make for a very versatile cast with sometimes very different points of view. This is like Christmas... the Christmas of a very sad and lonely person, granted, but it's still enjoyable!
I agree.
With all of them.
In all seriousness, my I can see all three viewpoints on motion control gaming, and I'm of the opinion that it's neither inherently good or bad. It's a different cup of tea. I can see the Matrix-style video game ideal, but holodecks ain't half bad either. Like Bob said, the finishing strikes in No More Heroes are ultimately what makes the battling so damn fun.
With all of them.
In all seriousness, my I can see all three viewpoints on motion control gaming, and I'm of the opinion that it's neither inherently good or bad. It's a different cup of tea. I can see the Matrix-style video game ideal, but holodecks ain't half bad either. Like Bob said, the finishing strikes in No More Heroes are ultimately what makes the battling so damn fun.
Okay, time to break out this bad boy:
Intelligent, high-brow game discussion at it's finest. And with a masturbation joke to boot.
Intelligent, high-brow game discussion at it's finest. And with a masturbation joke to boot.
I agree with Bob in how interactive the Wii is, but Motion Plus (as well as Kinect and Move) are where the line should be drawn (as I will never bother with those). I've dreamed about the dreamy circumstances of consciously dreaming in a dreamlike game, as in Yatzee's final statement. I've dreamed of mountains and icy, non-gravity clouds (sort of like Mario Galaxies') and would love to just explore my mind like mad.
Once again I must vehemently disagree with Yahtzee, if only for the one-sidedness of his argument; many people, including your fellow speaker Bob, (and presumably James, though he didn't talk much) DO get extra immersion from motion controls, when done right. I do, and I know many people who do as well. And as Bob stated, having the controller shake be an extra "button" and the pointer aspect are genuinely good developments. Take something like Bayonetta for example; all of your fingers (arguably not the left trigger, though that depends on your playstyle) are always busy with reflex-reliant actions. So why not bind the controller shake to something strategy, not reflex based, such as the taunt? Overall, I find his views shallow, selfish and pessimistic. But maybe that's just me.
Very entertaining read. Hope this becomes a weekly thing. It's 3 of my favorite game critics in one show.
I am also joining the Yahtzee camp that motion controls are unnecessary. I just what the mind to game action connection to be as short as possible.
I am also joining the Yahtzee camp that motion controls are unnecessary. I just what the mind to game action connection to be as short as possible.
Excellent! I enjoyed the read a lot!
Gaming to me is for 2 things which are very diverse 1 is the challenge! The one thing that i find in a game the most enjoyable is trying to master a certain skills to the near perfection and that being the only way to finish the game is to be a pro of that game! ie Mortal Kombat 1 & 2.
On the other end of the spectrum i love a great story and feeling apart of it and being compelled to find out what happens next, and in this situation i would much prefer for the game to flow rather be me hitting a wall which feels tedious.
So in regards to motion control vs non motion control i feel my competitive nature loves motion control! I have a Nintendo Wii and me and my mate always try and get the best times on the wii fit snowboarding its great fun!
But on the same page i wouldn't enjoy it being part of my rp games were i just wanted to get into the game with as little focus on whats happening in the world around me!
Ps - True Virtual Reality is coming ... eventually
Gaming to me is for 2 things which are very diverse 1 is the challenge! The one thing that i find in a game the most enjoyable is trying to master a certain skills to the near perfection and that being the only way to finish the game is to be a pro of that game! ie Mortal Kombat 1 & 2.
On the other end of the spectrum i love a great story and feeling apart of it and being compelled to find out what happens next, and in this situation i would much prefer for the game to flow rather be me hitting a wall which feels tedious.
So in regards to motion control vs non motion control i feel my competitive nature loves motion control! I have a Nintendo Wii and me and my mate always try and get the best times on the wii fit snowboarding its great fun!
But on the same page i wouldn't enjoy it being part of my rp games were i just wanted to get into the game with as little focus on whats happening in the world around me!
Ps - True Virtual Reality is coming ... eventually
Up until now, having an "epiphany" was something that MovieBob or ExtraCredits did, Yantzee had never really given me one.
But now, finally, Yantzee's said something so compelling and interesting I am going to have to log off and ponder it for a bit.
But now, finally, Yantzee's said something so compelling and interesting I am going to have to log off and ponder it for a bit.
Having an "out of body experience" is what gaming is all about. I've never thought about how my body feels when playing Civilization 5 or Starcraft, as I am not "a body" when playing those, I am "an entity controlling things a body shouldn't be able to". I transcend the physical and live entirely in the intangible when playing those kinds of games.Yantzee said:
Great idea except for the fact that these are Writers debating, and not TV-Show hosts.Tactical Fugitive said:
Planned observation and spontaneous creativity are diametrically-opposed things, and even if they rehearsed all their lines in the same way comedians do it, the viewer-calls would likely throw a monkey-wrench into the whole thing.
Don't believe me?
Check-out <url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1060-Washington-DC>Yahtzee's trip to DC and you'll understand what I'm talking about.