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great article but couldn't it go longer? wasn't much debating as i would like and it was getting interesting.
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Second all of these. I volunteer to provide some graphic inbetweening if needed.ProtoChimp said:
ROFLWUT? The same reasons I joined The Escapist man...HailtotheKing said:
Anyway, am I the only one who had the Terminator theme playing in the head with the sheer idea of having James, Yahtzee and MovieBob together? It's like a vortex of awesomeness.
@Bob's comment of an all in one media device instead of a console. It's called a computer Bob, you use it for your work every day, way to totally miss that knowledge though.
Seriously, PC gaming is stagnant atm simply because everyone is happy to ape what already sells. With HD being the standard for both computers and TVs now your PC hooks to your monitor literally the same as it does to your TV, just need some game designers to point it out, incorporate the ability to use controllers which most major consoles already have computer ready USB controllers, and just come together and show the gaming world that the console is an out dated idea. Consoles are from when most people's computers were expensive dinosaurs their parents wouldn't let you touch, so game makers had to give the kids their own computer hooked to the TV.
In the tech savvy world of today most kids know how to upgrade parts on their PC, and your PC can easily run circles around all 3 consoles combined for the same price when you build it yourself. As is consoles remain due to fan boyism, and the unwillingness of PC game makers to stretch out and show that your Xbox is an expensive paperweight when compared to your computer.
Seriously, PC gaming is stagnant atm simply because everyone is happy to ape what already sells. With HD being the standard for both computers and TVs now your PC hooks to your monitor literally the same as it does to your TV, just need some game designers to point it out, incorporate the ability to use controllers which most major consoles already have computer ready USB controllers, and just come together and show the gaming world that the console is an out dated idea. Consoles are from when most people's computers were expensive dinosaurs their parents wouldn't let you touch, so game makers had to give the kids their own computer hooked to the TV.
In the tech savvy world of today most kids know how to upgrade parts on their PC, and your PC can easily run circles around all 3 consoles combined for the same price when you build it yourself. As is consoles remain due to fan boyism, and the unwillingness of PC game makers to stretch out and show that your Xbox is an expensive paperweight when compared to your computer.
That was a good read. Looking forward to more of these, and a great point about the creative peak of the last console generation. Hopefully we'll see another boom sooner rather than later.
As for motion controls: I like Bob's idea that it should really function as a mouse/extra button, as it's the best use of the style (like the use of the flashlight in Silent Hill: Shattered Memories and the batting/pitching in the Wii version of The Bigs). However, because the precedent is there for doing other actions with those controls, I don't think a lot of developers will be satisfied programming the technology for such limited function, and will try to make 'more use' of it, which leads to a lot of unnecessary waggles (a lot of the other motion control moments in Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, or most Wii games for that matter). Sony and Microsoft jumping on the bandwagon three years after the fact isn't helping that format find it's place within the larger structure of gaming.
As for motion controls: I like Bob's idea that it should really function as a mouse/extra button, as it's the best use of the style (like the use of the flashlight in Silent Hill: Shattered Memories and the batting/pitching in the Wii version of The Bigs). However, because the precedent is there for doing other actions with those controls, I don't think a lot of developers will be satisfied programming the technology for such limited function, and will try to make 'more use' of it, which leads to a lot of unnecessary waggles (a lot of the other motion control moments in Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, or most Wii games for that matter). Sony and Microsoft jumping on the bandwagon three years after the fact isn't helping that format find it's place within the larger structure of gaming.
This was the greatest idea in the history of everything. Ever.
Great conversation and I can't wait until the next one!
Great conversation and I can't wait until the next one!
Love this debate styled stuff, but i ultimately agree with yahtzee on this. We play games of sports because we would rather do that then play the sport itself (well, I personally dont play sports games wither...) but you see my point.
"If you ask me, the hypothetical zenith of gaming technology is direct neural interface - no body to hamper you and your brain is in whatever you want it to be in. Plus it leads to existential uncertainty, which could be entertaining."
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"If you ask me, the hypothetical zenith of gaming technology is direct neural interface - no body to hamper you and your brain is in whatever you want it to be in. Plus it leads to existential uncertainty, which could be entertaining."
This
This was awesome! I really like that you've gathered together some real gaming thinkers, both politic and less politic. ;-) I hope this becomes a regular thing, because I'd love to see more debate between these three, and other contributors to the Escapist besides =)
Simply delightful, I fully support this column
anyhow I feel the need to concur with Bob on Motion Controls, it's the little things that I like, like steering or shaking to extend a jump.
Honestly when I was kid playing on the SNES I would often shake the controller when making a jump, or turning it when playing Super Mario Kart. Motion Controls have made made it so that these compulsions actually impact what's happening in the game, and I think that's great.
anyhow I feel the need to concur with Bob on Motion Controls, it's the little things that I like, like steering or shaking to extend a jump.
Honestly when I was kid playing on the SNES I would often shake the controller when making a jump, or turning it when playing Super Mario Kart. Motion Controls have made made it so that these compulsions actually impact what's happening in the game, and I think that's great.
This content has lots of potential. I want to see more of it.
OT: I think Yahtzee just has his panties in a twist over motion controls, and I've thought that for a while now. There's nothing intrinsically immersive about motion controls or standard controllers. It depends on the game, and it helps if you're not predisposed toward another control mechanism to begin with.
OT: I think Yahtzee just has his panties in a twist over motion controls, and I've thought that for a while now. There's nothing intrinsically immersive about motion controls or standard controllers. It depends on the game, and it helps if you're not predisposed toward another control mechanism to begin with.
Going to have to be the rare dissenter on the idea in its current form.
As it is there are too many voices effectively shouting "I have an opinion!" "Me too!" with a little clumsy direct interaction. The concept would work better with two people having a kind of debate instead of the echo chamber it is now.
Yahtzee is great as the voice of the people (even if he pisses them off most of the time.)
James is great as the voice of the industry.
Let the two of them get a good dialog going and I think something really worthwhile could be generated. Leave Moviebob to everything else he does for the site.
As it is there are too many voices effectively shouting "I have an opinion!" "Me too!" with a little clumsy direct interaction. The concept would work better with two people having a kind of debate instead of the echo chamber it is now.
Yahtzee is great as the voice of the people (even if he pisses them off most of the time.)
James is great as the voice of the industry.
Let the two of them get a good dialog going and I think something really worthwhile could be generated. Leave Moviebob to everything else he does for the site.
