Tin Man said:
FaceFaceFace said:
You people disturb me. No, not this guy or the child-death mod people, you people calling them "sick". I have to question YOUR mental well-being if you honestly believe that morals, sanity, or anything else from real life applies in an imaginary world. Was the guy who wrote Silence of the Lambs sick? Are the people who go on murder sprees in GTA sick? Where do you get off drawing these imaginary moral lines in imaginary worlds?
OT: This is awesome. It also suggests that they need to start incorporating NPC/AI systems for detecting mass murder and body vandalization so that the citizens of the Elder Scrolls games can react accordingly.
You're entitled to your opinion and free speech and all that shit, but fuck that dude. No, writers of horror and depravity are not sick, they're writers. That is an art and a skill. And there is a BIG difference between gunning down gangs in GTA and running stuffed and goofily animated people over, and decapitating and undressing women in a game and keeping their heads on a shelf. A lot of time went into this.
Also, you can't pick up corpses IIRC, so he probably lured those women there. Which is just insidious. Violent and mindless GTA sprees is one thing, but why put so much effort into something like
this. Because he can? Because he wants to? I don't give a fuck what you say, there are questions that need to be asked of a mind that considers something like that a recreational activity.
Or more to the point, the guy made a video out of it. Ask yourself why someone makes a horror movie, a haunted house for halloween, or whatever else. The point of this, with the atmospheric music and such was to entertain like a horror movie, and invite exactly these kinds of questions. The dude made a bloody funhouse with Skyrim... I mean cripes.
Now honestly, it can be fun to put your hair down and be the bad guy once in a while. I don't think there are many people who haven't read murder mysteries or watched horror movies about seriel killers that have not had the person sitting back playing arm chair bad guy and thinking "well, if this was me, I could have done better".
Skyrim actually has quests that encourage you to be an absolute bastard, actually you kind of gimp your character if you want. Cannibalism, and Betrayal and Murder are the two big acts of depravity that come about through the Daedric quests. Truthfully this display isn't going much beyond what you already have in the game (just kind of spelling some of it out a bit). I could explain my RP and thinking but I'm not going to go into it in detail. Simply put The
Ebony Blade sits unused on a shelf, and my current chracater wears the ring of Namira.
Truthfully I've always wanted to make a seriel killer game for horror fans that was all about doing this kind of thing, except programmed with algorithms based on things like the old VICAPS system (Violent Criminal Apprehension System) to predict police response based on their analysis and the patterns of the criminal in question. The old thing of "you think you can do better than Dexter, or Ted Bundy... prove it" a sandbox where your awarded points or whatever for unusually sadistic or pattern based kills, BUT such kills also make you *FAR* more likely to be caught by the police.
I'm also a huge fan of 80s horror movies, if I was to ever design such a game I'd be tempted to throw in supernatural elements and allow people to make their own movie slasher, but that would kind of ruin the point of the Sim.
What can I say? I'm a horror fan, and was a criminal justice major have always been intrigued by these guys and how they got away with it for so long, and how they were eventually captured. I grew up wanting to track down these guys, and as I learned more about it have wondered how long I could get away with it given the things I know if I was so inclined... but here is the thing, despite all of this "I have lost faith in humanity" garbage most people AREN'T inclined that way. Even sociopaths have to possess a degree of sadism that is just uncommon for someone to become a seriel killer or whatever. Being intrigued by such things and actually being wired to do them are entirely differant things. People have wondered at the appeal of horror movies, true crime novels, and similar things for a long time now, and yet they endure, there are a lot of differant answers as to why people enjoy that kind of thing, but we do, and honestly I think it's more abnormal to say you have no dark side than to admit it. This kind of thing is fine as long as it stays in fantasy, and really I think people SERIOUSLY underestimate how huge a jump it is for fantasy to turn into reality with something like this. Humans ARE social creatures as a survivial mechanism.
At any rate this guy created a virtual haunted house, like a Halloween amusement, or perhaps more appropriatly a very short horror movie using a video game engine. Big whoop. Hellraiser is worse, so I guess this means you should all run down Clive Barker as he inspired it (first movie based on one of his novellas, the other films simply based on that movie).