Well, they are about as close to female space marines as you can get, because of the power armour and religious training. The different being that they can't get the implants, as they only work on male subjects, so they still have regular human squshiness, abliet with power armour.Danzaivar said:
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To be frank, the perception that women are weaker than men extends quite far. Look at the US military for example where the physicial requirements for women are significantly lower than those for men. An 18 year old female can pass the push-up portion of the Army Physical Fitness Test with a mere 19 repititions in 2 minutes where an 18 year old male needs 42. In fact, if a female meets the minimum standard for a male she will have achieved the maximum possible score for a female. The same is true of the run with a female being given an additional 3 minutes to run the same two mile route a male runs.Danzaivar said:
Of course, there are some women who can readily meet and even exceed the male standards but they proved the exception rather than the rule in my time with the military. As far as science can tell, there is no real difference in muscle tissue in males and females and most of the differences that do exist only express themselves significantly in certain situations. Women are significantly more likely to suffer from stress fractures to the hip during long road marches under heavy loads for example.
What the possibility of a shit storm implies is that these difference need not be true of the gender as a whole. It is entirely possible that something as simple as social pressure enforces the very real difference you see in the athletic capabilities of men and women on average. To be honest, based on what I have seen, it seems that social pressures provide as good an explanation as any for the trend as it was often the women who cared little for femenine sterotypes in general that excelled in athletic endeavors in the military.
And besides, the differences between the boys and the girls in this case is due in large part to the simple fact that they are not nearly so well equipped. The girls are not given the benefits of extensive genetic modification or augmentation. I'd wager that their performance would be quite similar if the Sisters of Battle were compared to unaugmented unmodified males rather than the super-humans that are the Space Marines. Because, let's be fair: no unmodified human stacks up well when compared to a Space Marine.
But they happened on the Emperor's behalf, so it can be argued that the Emperor brought in said dark age. He did, just not by his design. Hell, he's dead, just strapped up to a machine so his body won't stop functioning.Jenx said:
And yes, I do. In this case, everyone is so scared of machinery and how it works that everything to do with it's continued functioning is left to tech-priests.
Think of modern day technophobia - a fear (or at least deep mistrust) of the functioning of computers, such that any problem, no matter how slight, is dealt with by dedicated tech people, or younger members of the family.
I just phrased it badly in my last post...
That's not Technophobia. That's just a lack of knowledge. A phobia would mean a genuine fear.J03bot said:
...Also, in regards to the original topic, I'm afraid any females that want to play a Space Marine will have to roll up a male.
I'm... so sorry. But otherwise, there will be chaos, and as everyone knows, chaos is bad. And must be purged. And nobody wants more purging, do they?
...Well, alright, they do, but still.
Never said they were useless. I was referring to Fluff, which is what people are arguing about right now. I myself play Imperial Guard, and their Kasrkin with Hotshot Lasguns tear heavy troops apart. They are a force to be reckoned with.dogstile said:
Clearly you neglected to read even one page of the comments. It's been explained about five times over by this point.p3t3r said:
THQ have remained loyal to the W40K canon so far as gameplay is not compromised, for instance the first four Dawn of War games allowed you access to the majority of units from the majority of races whilst adding on the traditional RTS mechanic for getting a hold of your units (base building) Dawn of War II had you customise your squads and loadout before the game began, much like tabletop 40k, so I can't really see them letting an additional X chromosome getting anywhere near the Human-race characters... If, however, they allow players to play as the Sisters of Battle that is the perfect opportunity to prove that there is little disparity between the sexes in the potential for awesomeness.
P.S. for the benefit of those who don't know this; there are no female Space Marines because in the 40K universe the correct hormonal cocktail for supporting the horrific biological modifications that turn an exceptional human being into a 7'6" acid-spitting killing-machine only exists in the human male. That's why there are never any female space marines, there are however Sisters of Battle who kick ass and take names.
P.S. for the benefit of those who don't know this; there are no female Space Marines because in the 40K universe the correct hormonal cocktail for supporting the horrific biological modifications that turn an exceptional human being into a 7'6" acid-spitting killing-machine only exists in the human male. That's why there are never any female space marines, there are however Sisters of Battle who kick ass and take names.
Adepta Sororitas. 'Nuff said. Also, there can be female Inquisitors and Psychers. However, I'm unsure about Tech Priests and the like. :/
I don't think you really have much to worry about. The gameplay videos look pretty shitty. I mean, the sky is BLUE. How can it be GRIMDARK if the sky is blue? Fuck, Sam and Max is a more GRIMDARK game than Dark Millenium right now.
It takes a more realistic yet decaying view of the universe where humanity is in slow decline and being destroed on all sides (or eaten in the case of the Tyranids) and has its back in a corner. Just because its a grim universe doesn't mean there aren't beautiful worlds, and clear sky, in fact I prefer it to every 'grim' setting where all the worlds look the exact same and have no other distinguishing features from one another. It also makes more sense why the Imperium as a whole would fight to protect the few planets that have not been turned into smog covered Hive worlds. Besides most Aggri worlds also have clear skys and blue oceans, they are the worlds who's sole responsibility is making enough crop to feed the hive worlds.crazypsyko666 said: