Critical Miss: Dragon Age 2

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masticina

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Geeh why was I a console gamer again?

Really again with the Securom? Do they ever learn? Or more important do they ever get punished hard enough to learn?

I mean this is a good game but ..no! That is why some people on consoles. And damn isn't that a nice sheep...oh well :) Nobody gets between en elf and his sheep right?

Really on a very few games I left PC gaming because of copy protection crap. Of driver problems.. yes it can look better then on consoles. IF it runs that is.. I just want to play a game. Disc in and run! And you PS3.. forced installations? That take 20 minutes? really!
 

Something Amyss

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The Gentleman said:
...And this is why PC gaming is dying: because you don't have to deal with this shit with the consoles.
Don't you still need to sign up with Bioware/EA to play newer Bioware titles?

Sure, SecureROM isn't a problem, but that banning could be and review scandals totally are.
 

Something Amyss

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Alar said:
And yet the amazing deals, great support, chat system, and ability to gift games to friends makes up for it! Hooray!
Yes, and operating under a single umbrella that can take your content away at a whim. Hooray!

Monopolistic behaviour designed to squash competition Woohoo! This can clearly only mean good things, unlike all those other times.

 

The Wooster

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MatsVS said:
Grey Carter said:
Or there could be, you know, people who dislike the game because of it's rather large flaws.
I quite like the game, but accusing people who don't of being "intellectually dishonest" and arrogant isn't an argument. It's simple name calling.
You misunderstand.

Clearly, disliking the game for legitimate reasons is fine and presenting said reasons as a well-conceived argument is even better. Obviously. That's helpful. It's also not been the case.

Going into the game with a preconceived notion of how the game ought to be and then complaining when the game falls short of said expectations most certainly is not. Well, it would be if they did not proceed to point to their own personal disappointment as solid proof of the game's lack of objective quality. You judge a game on its own merits, its own premises, and as a blank slate. Anything less is intellectually dishonest.
See I'm going to have to disagree with both you and Cory here. Reviews, at least reviews worth reading, are rarely objective and always, always highly personal. Reviews are not, and will never be, a measure of objective quality. There's simply too many variables floating around for that to work.
What game reviews have always been is a simple recommendation. Should you, or should you not, buy this game. Games are, unless you're a particular type of gamer, an opportunity cost and thus should always be compared to their peers and competitors.
When a developer takes a game title and sticks a number on the end they're courting fan expectations. They're taking on those expectations in exchange for guaranteed sales. It's not unreasonable to expect a game's sequel to provide a similar experience to the first game. Avoiding stagnation is one thing and I'm all for cutting out fluff (ME2 is far better than ME) but I personally think some of the changes in DA2 were perhaps too sweeping and I can see why people looking for an RPG as opposed to an action RPG have got their knickers in a twist.

Zachary Amaranth said:
Alar said:
And yet the amazing deals, great support, chat system, and ability to gift games to friends makes up for it! Hooray!
Yes, and operating under a single umbrella that can take your content away at a whim. Hooray!

Monopolistic behaviour designed to squash competition Woohoo! This can clearly only mean good things, unlike all those other times.

I think if anything, Valve and Steam prove the importance of good PR. At least with the admittedly small sect of hardcore gamers who recognize how terrifyingly gargantuan Steam is. Hell. It extends to just about every business practice. What's the difference between Bullshit Nickle-And-Dime HorsePack DLC and Hats? Gabe Newell telling a joke.
 

Baradiel

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Nidokoenig said:
this isnt my name said:
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Is there an elf, flirting with a sheep in the background?
*sigh* The dalish in this Game were Welsh, Irish and Scottish, its a Welsh joke. (I get tired of the Welsh jokes, atleast have somthing to back up the things, like Americas obesity problem. The Ssheep joke shouldnt even exist.)
Jokes about more rural people getting off with livestock are common the world over. It's just city folk being mad jelly that Wales hasn't been completely covered in concrete.
Too right! These "Emerald Isles" are so out of fashion. Grey is the new green. Forget universities and the health service, pump all money into concrete to coat the Welsh in the modern!
 

Cory Rydell

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dmcc85 said:
mireko said:
dmcc85 said:
and i 'd rather play risen and risen2.
Funny, I'd rather get shot in the foot than play Risen again.
Jerusalem said:
i havent played risen yet.
but there already is a sequel in the making.
I got through the first act, cleaning the map and getting half the skeleton lord rings or whatever, but the progression in the game was too odd for me. The gameplay had me hooked for a while but in the end I just couldn't bring myself to finish it... and I won't be going back.
 

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What the fuck? Everyone's bloody talking about Dragon Age 2, and Bioware, and how they suck, or they don't suck....

Dude, there's a fucking Fireman Sam reference in there! That is so cool. Many would call me a geek for notcing this sort of thing, but not in this case, because this is fireman sam we're talking about here.
Well played, chaps.
 

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Grey Carter said:
I think if anything, Valve and Steam prove the importance of good PR. At least with the admittedly small sect of hardcore gamers who recognize how terrifyingly gargantuan Steam is. Hell. It extends to just about every business practice. What's the difference between Bullshit Nickle-And-Dime HorsePack DLC and Hats? Gabe Newell telling a joke.
Horse Armor has an in game effect?

Honestly, I never saw the appeal of Hats myself. I only ever bought one, and that was to support the community map makers.
 

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Worr Monger said:
Celtic_Kerr said:
JeanLuc761 said:
Zeetchmen said:
Feel sorry for all the people that ended up buying the "RPG of the decade" ^o^
As someone who loves DA:O and DA2, I can confidently say you don't need to feel sorry for me ;)
Seconded! I love this game! it's fantastic!
Thirded. Haters gonna hate.
Indeed the Haters are hatin.



And Carver tell it like it is.


Meh, I want Skyrim,. Holy sh** what is this? Forged in god very flame...

...No, don't start singing it anymore!
 

Alar

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Zachary Amaranth said:
Alar said:
And yet the amazing deals, great support, chat system, and ability to gift games to friends makes up for it! Hooray!
Yes, and operating under a single umbrella that can take your content away at a whim. Hooray!

Monopolistic behaviour designed to squash competition Woohoo! This can clearly only mean good things, unlike all those other times.
Is it a monopoly? Maybe. But its given me great service, excellent deals, and very nice games to play. I haven't run into any of the problems you've spoken of yet, and if they do take away your content, perhaps keeping a record of your purchases would help convince them to give it back?

Unless, of course, you're talking about them removing a game from their archive and you needing to re-install it somewhere else?
 

duchaked

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oh well BioWare at least you got Mass Effect right so far

no it's not perfect but it's still great (as opposed to me saying "it's not perfect but it's still 'GOOD'")
 

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mireko said:
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So I bought DA2. It's still in her shiny wrappers, since I decided to play the pirate version instead. And my life is better because of that. QED for the problems facing AAA industry, I guess. Sure doesn't make me feel like buying many games with what limited budget I have to use for entertainment. But I guess natural selection will eventually work these problems out.
What?

You bought DA2, but played a pirated version because you don't have enough money?

Wait, no, those are obviously unconnected.. but that makes less sense. How did it improve your life?
Actually, this is pretty ingenious.
Step 1) Buy game.
Step 2) Download a copy, play a few hours in, test it out on your comp, generally get a feel for the game.
Step 3)Decide whether you want to keep playing it.
Step 3a) Didn't like it? Return your wrapped copy and delete the downloaded copy.
Step 3b) Liked it? Well then bust that packing and get to enjoying your game in a big-business approved manner, surely as God intended games to be played.
 

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this isnt my name said:
*sigh* The dalish in this Game were Welsh, Irish and Scottish, its a Welsh joke. (I get tired of the Welsh jokes, atleast have somthing to back up the things, like Americas obesity problem. The Ssheep joke shouldnt even exist.)


However I found this amusing all of BWs recent PR fails in one image.
Well, the thing with the sheep joke is that racists are uncreative and like to get cheap laughs at the expense of others.
That's how it started, anyway... and now people keep doing these jokes about "stereotypes" and it's called humour.
 

Arcanist

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at least a third of the companion content has been eliminated(no doubt due to the extra time and cost of voicing Hawke)
That pissed me off, too. Not having conversation trees to explore is... odd in a BioWare game.

there's a serious lack of loot thanks to the "companion armour" system(translation: rushed schedule meant they couldn't afford to design armours that would fit anything other than human-standard character models)
Actually, that's more than defensible from a design standpoint because it really breaks flow to have to take every bit of gear and compare it against everyone's equipment. I thought it was a nice compromise to have Hawke loot his/her gear, but have companions level up their own.
 

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el_kabong said:
Nidokoenig said:
this isnt my name said:
Nocta-Aeterna said:
Is there an elf, flirting with a sheep in the background?
*sigh* The dalish in this Game were Welsh, Irish and Scottish, its a Welsh joke. (I get tired of the Welsh jokes, atleast have somthing to back up the things, like Americas obesity problem. The Ssheep joke shouldnt even exist.)
Jokes about more rural people getting off with livestock are common the world over. It's just city folk being mad jelly that Wales hasn't been completely covered in concrete.
It's pretty common. In the US, the butt of livestock jokes are directed at states like Montana (probably my own, as well, but I've never heard about it). I think in Canada they use Newfoundland as a punching bag (real Canadians feel free to correct me).
Well, no real correction there. But there are loads of regional specific jokes here in Canada, not just the east coast ones. Although everyone hates Ontario. Everyone. And it's not even because of Toronto! Well not all of it anyways :p

But what gets me is where did all the "Morrigan Dissaproves!" people get to? I mean, they were thick as flies after Origins released, but now they've gone to ground and Origins is supposedly the best thing Bioware could have blessed us with. Go figure :)
 

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therandombear said:
The drama mask in the speech wheel should be a troll face... :3
I think that's what they might have been going for lol. Or maybe I am just seeing things.