Critical Miss: Spudden Death
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But if you're in stabbing distance, and a trained soldier like the characters in Call of Duty, wouldn't every stab be fatal? Maybe not immediately, but this stab to the foot she described would probably be to either your Achilles' Tendon or your Tibial Artery, which would result in either quick death in the latter, or the prone position from the Second Chance Perk in the former.
But, in the same vein, how can you whine about a military-issue grenade killing you?
But, in the same vein, how can you whine about a military-issue grenade killing you?
From my experience its because its easy to shoot the nade launcher and get a random kill but throwing knifes its rare yet more effective if done right. Also melee isn't considered bull because everyone carries that same advantage equally. Thats how Ive always seen it.
Black Ops had Flak Jacket for this very reason.
*Enter Salesman voice*
"Are you tired of those pesky noobtubes? Want to go on a killstreak without worrying about dying from one rocket to the face? Then Flak Jacket is for you! No need to worry about any one explosive anymore! Just put on Flak Jacket and WE GUARANTEE that you will never die from one explosive at full health*"
*Warning: Does not include being stuck by an explosive crossbow bolt and/or Semtex. Batteries not included.
Which is why I don't undertand the Black Ops hate. Black Ops fixed every complaint everyone had with previous CoDs that have plagued the series since CoD4, Killstreaks nonwithstanding.
It's the most balanced CoD game, yet people have a huge vehemence for it, for no logical reason.
And no, "It's Treyarch" doesn't hold up as a logical reason.
*Enter Salesman voice*
"Are you tired of those pesky noobtubes? Want to go on a killstreak without worrying about dying from one rocket to the face? Then Flak Jacket is for you! No need to worry about any one explosive anymore! Just put on Flak Jacket and WE GUARANTEE that you will never die from one explosive at full health*"
*Warning: Does not include being stuck by an explosive crossbow bolt and/or Semtex. Batteries not included.
Which is why I don't undertand the Black Ops hate. Black Ops fixed every complaint everyone had with previous CoDs that have plagued the series since CoD4, Killstreaks nonwithstanding.
It's the most balanced CoD game, yet people have a huge vehemence for it, for no logical reason.
And no, "It's Treyarch" doesn't hold up as a logical reason.
I don't recall many complaints about the grenade launcher in COD4 to be honest.I think the hatred for it started thanks to the stupid perk combos in MW2 such as One Man Army + Danger Close which gave you an infinite supply of 'nades which were twice as powerful
Melee has always been overpowered though in my opinion.I much prefer Gears melee system.Apart from the Lancer's chainsaw and now the Retro Lancer bayonet charge(which can be tricky to pull off)a melee hit from most weapons will only damage you if you have full health.It usually takes 2 hits to down someone and a third to finish them off
Melee has always been overpowered though in my opinion.I much prefer Gears melee system.Apart from the Lancer's chainsaw and now the Retro Lancer bayonet charge(which can be tricky to pull off)a melee hit from most weapons will only damage you if you have full health.It usually takes 2 hits to down someone and a third to finish them off
From what I've seen, the Black Ops complaints are largely based on 'OMG there are so many CoD games stop whoring out your franchise Activision!'GaltarDude1138 said:
It's possible that I should have put some spelling mistakes in there.
Way I see it, if it's still selling, people still want it. Although once MW3 is done, I kind of hope they strip out the campaign entirely and sell the thing for 1/2-3/4 of the full price as a result. They clearly won't stop producing the games, but removing the SP saves a lot of time and effort both on development and on behalf of those who want to whine about it.
I'm a little ashamed at how long it took me to spot the gag here, but damn that's funny. Also at least in Black Ops there isn't a bunch of perks and loadouts that make knifing actually have about the same effective range of a shotgun, but better firing rate and the ability to abandon all pretense of using guns without sacrificing your K/D ratio.
So, the grenade launcher is a weapon that was programmed into the game by the developers just like any other weapon, it simply does exactly what you would expect a grenade launcher to do, and yet anyone who employs it as a valuable tactical maneuvre is a 'noob'? By this logic I would also like to add the M-60 as a noob weapon. Damned thing can shoot through walls, kill with just 2 or 3 hits, and as my asshole brother demonstrated, the simple addition of a UAV every couple of minutes means you will only ever be able to attack it head on. That's more noobish than any grenade launcher.
In this article, Sir Carter tells us that BlOps is the best-selling instance of the series. So if you go by "largest amount of people" instead of "most vocal, and also annoying", it seems that newcomers are convinced by their peers that BlOps is the better choice. (I'm just assuming that MW2 is selling at less than full price nowadays, yet people still buy the more expensive one for reasons I'm not concerned about)GaltarDude1138 said:
The only thing good with CoD (in my own esports opinion) is CoD4 Promod, and CoD2. Killstreaks and unlocks just kills the game for me. Black ops was dead on arrival, because it had no proper server support or mod tools (and there's no damn way the default gamemode is good enough for any serious competitive play..), but so was BF:BC2 and MoH 2010, so I declare myself unbiased
I want this comic as a T-shirt. Maybe as a poster, as well. I don't even play CoD, it just annoys me when people complain about other people using a "broken[footnote]and it's almost never really broken[/footnote]" mechanic. This is one of the few cases where "don't hate the player, hate the game" is a valid response, because if it's really as broken as the players are claiming it is, they need to move onto something with better game design. There are plenty of well balanced, multiplayer online shooters with active player bases out there -- and most of them have better netcode than CoD to boot, so, you know, another area where CoD is broken and they aren't. I have no idea why people who so clearly hate a game stick with it so fervently.
Plus, its sometimes really easy to miss with the knife due to lag or choppy frame-rate and unlike the noobtube, it does not kill everyone in close range of the shot.Mr Thin said:
And noobtubing is worse than knifing at a basic level: Noobtube works at long and medium range (sometimes even close range if you got the right perks and are lucky), pretty much kills with one shot and does not require any precision, while knifing only works at REALLY close range and requires precision.
Wait, what? Are you saying that since a lot of Blops players are newcomers to the series, they automatically assume the highest-price on is the better one?klasbo said:
I honestly can't say; it seems most of the hate one the Internet is the directed towards Black Ops, which I honestly have no idea why, but I'm not really to "vocal and also annoying" about it. I just play the damn game and enjoy it...
I play Black Ops on the 360, in fact, I've played all the CoD's on a console at one point or another, so I myself can't say anything about the PC side of thingsklasbo said:The only thing good with CoD (in my own esports opinion) is CoD4 Promod, and CoD2. Killstreaks and unlocks just kills the game for me. Black ops was dead on arrival, because it had no proper server support or mod tools (and there's no damn way the default gamemode is good enough for any serious competitive play..), but so was BF:BC2 and MoH 2010, so I declare myself unbiased
. (Although it has mod support now, doesn't it?) But IMHO, it's the best CoD on console, and that's just judging from the gameplay and tweaks. And killstreaks? Killstreaks are a mixed bag, and either you like them or you don't. I seem to find that when someone calls in say, a Chopper Gunner, people always complain that it gets shot down to quickly. But when it's an opposing teams chopper gunner, its "SHOOT IT DOWN ALREADY N00BS!" So, I guess killstreaks can be considered overpowered, depending on which team you're on
Again, killstreaks can be taken either way, depending on which game you're in. (Some of the Killstreaks from Modern Warfare 2 are not present, (AC-130, EMP, Harriers, Nuke). Those that seem to be complained about the most are RC-XD's, and...RC-XD's.Satsuki666 said:
Which can be countered with a simple jammer placement or the old-fashioned way; shooting at it.
Sniping, (again, IMO) has no place in such games as CoD where run-and-gun gunplay is more the norm than sitting in a corner or perch shooting at people or running around quick-scoping people, so naturally I was a big fan of them getting rid of quickscoping.
Not to say I don't use the sniper rifle from time to time, however. Some of my fondest moments on Jungle were with a silenced Dragunov where, looking at the huge ridge where SOG spawns I would pick them off that ridge with headshots.
Which leads me to believe that there's nothing really wrong with the hitboxes...
Well, you do have to get up close and personal to use the insta-death knife. It's like in TF2 with the Spy's backstab. Except in this game, you can't cloak or disquise yourself. But here, I guess you don't need a stab on the back. So just from what I've gleaned in the last minute or so (of writing this) I'd say it's looking pretty balanced.
And really, if you can't be bothered to take out the guy wielding the one-hit kill knife before he gets up close from far away, you deserve to be killed.
And really, if you can't be bothered to take out the guy wielding the one-hit kill knife before he gets up close from far away, you deserve to be killed.