Dogs say Hi.GaltarDude1138 said:
And I dunno. tbh, I just prefer Modern Warfare 2. Overall, though, Halo > CoD. (imo, so don't start on fanboy wars)
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And I dunno. tbh, I just prefer Modern Warfare 2. Overall, though, Halo > CoD. (imo, so don't start on fanboy wars)
No no no no no.GaltarDude1138 said:Wait, what? Are you saying that since a lot of Blops players are newcomers to the series, they automatically assume the highest-price on is the better one?klasbo said:
I honestly can't say; it seems most of the hate one the Internet is the directed towards Black Ops, which I honestly have no idea why, but I'm not really to "vocal and also annoying" about it. I just play the damn game and enjoy it...
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I play Black Ops on the 360, in fact, I've played all the CoD's on a console at one point or another, so I myself can't say anything about the PC side of things. (Although it has mod support now, doesn't it?) But IMHO, it's the best CoD on console, and that's just judging from the gameplay and tweaks. And killstreaks? Killstreaks are a mixed bag, and either you like them or you don't. I seem to find that when someone calls in say, a Chopper Gunner, people always complain that it gets shot down to quickly. But when it's an opposing teams chopper gunner, its "SHOOT IT DOWN ALREADY N00BS!"
So, I guess killstreaks can be considered overpowered, depending on which team you're on
People choose BlOps over MW2 (going by the sales statistics) because they have some reason to believe that the higher price is justified, ie they've been told by others that the BlOps is in some way better, or that they just assume that the sequel must be more refined. And this is what makes large portions of the BlOps-hate completely bonkers.
I realize in retrospect that this point could have been made more clearly.
BlOps mod support was too little too late. The community at large was already fed up with the failure that was WaW and MW2 (especially MW2 and the dedicated server business), so BlOps was pretty much abandoned from the start, and people went back to CoD4 Promod, other older FPS titles, or just moved on to Starcraft 2. (Really. People switched genre because they were fed up..)
As for the killstreaks thing: My main gripe is that getting a killstreak makes it easier to get an even bigger killstreak. And so obviously, you want to get that 5 or 7 streak to get access to the big(ger) guns, which means you're not going to risk your life for saving that control point. And you sure as hell will try to hoard a small portion of the map to yourself, just to make sure you get all the kills for yourself. So-called "tutorials" on Machinima (youtube) tell you to always try to be on the other side of the map from your teammates, so you can do as best a job as possible on spawnkilling so you can work your way to the 25-kill nuke. The way to being "successful" is to avoid your teammates? It just destroys the incentive for teamwork, to the point of actually playing against your own teammates.
Yea, not exactly the best game mode for serious competitive play, as you can imagine.
Killstreaks that have team-based rewards would work brilliantly (in comparison). 3x flag/control point capture rate, ability to revive a teammate, ability to set up an optional spawn point for your team, etc. It creates a bigger of a risk/reward dynamic, which should be much more interesting gameplay than camping it out so you can call in a helicopter aimbot-in-the-sky.
It is, but the thing is, a knife can actually be countered a lot easier. He at least has to be in your line of sight, and as he still has to get in close he's vulnerable to SMG and shotgun fire. You don't often just randomly die from a knifer, except when he gets you in the back in which case you deserve it anyway.Scytail said:
A 'noobtuber' however can just spam grenades everywhere, getting almost random kills he barely has to aim or even see his target for. That in term leads to a lot of, for the enemy, random deaths against which he could barely defend himself. A huge difference compared with getting knifed. Especially in Modern Warfare 2 it was way worse than knifing. Combine a grenade launcher with Scavenger, Hard Line and something else, and you were in for quite a ride.
But whatever, I moved to different shooters quite a while back. Not sure how the state of grenade launchers is in Black Ops, only played that for a bit.
At least I can kill the friggin' dogs, despite them being one-hit kills. I didn't mind them at all in World at War.ThunderCavalier said:
That's it in a nutshell. People don't look into the air at the beginning of the match and throw a knife across the map to kill someone after they've run about ten feet. (Well, maybe in Black Ops, but that would actually take a bit of skill.)Mr Thin said:
I've had enough of CoD. I loved the original Modern Warfare but everything since then has stripped the franchise of anything approaching strategy. Battlefield 3 is getting my money.
The one thing that was overpowered in MW2 was the SitRep perk in its pro version. Hearing enemey footsteps louder and friendly footsteps getting more silent was basically a wall hack. I know i had enough reports on me for using it even though it was perfectly legitimate.
You could argue that OMA tubing was overpowered aswell. But really it makes you very weak in other ways. Even FAL could be found as overpowered given the fact that its semi auto.
But whatever ppl are doing, kniferunning marathon-lightweight-commando, AR+silencer marathon-stopping power-ninja or even barret .5cal+thermal.... it doesnt matter if you dont know what youre using it for or if your team has no idea of where to go or what to do.
And thats just why im probably not playing mw3 or bf3... the constant complaining about OP weapons from ppl who should first learn to play the game, the bad verbal behaviour from ppl of any ages and the uncommon teamwork, all of it just makes me wish i was playing something on my own.
World of tanks have given me loads more, and unless you want to save some time, its free so go download it now
You could argue that OMA tubing was overpowered aswell. But really it makes you very weak in other ways. Even FAL could be found as overpowered given the fact that its semi auto.
But whatever ppl are doing, kniferunning marathon-lightweight-commando, AR+silencer marathon-stopping power-ninja or even barret .5cal+thermal.... it doesnt matter if you dont know what youre using it for or if your team has no idea of where to go or what to do.
And thats just why im probably not playing mw3 or bf3... the constant complaining about OP weapons from ppl who should first learn to play the game, the bad verbal behaviour from ppl of any ages and the uncommon teamwork, all of it just makes me wish i was playing something on my own.
World of tanks have given me loads more, and unless you want to save some time, its free so go download it now
As an Ex Call of Duty 4 Clan player, sod off.The Great JT said:
The argument is that the noobtube can be fired from pretty much anywhere at any angle and you'll usually score yourself a kill.
Most of the time the beginning of the game would be started with a cluster of nade launchers going off and then everyone would run to avoid the usual kill zones from the opposing sides barrage.
You'd be surprised how many times you could score an instant triple kill.
You can only knife one person at a time and that requires you to actually have to get up close and personal with the other person.
If you're able to do that then you deserve to get a kill nine times out of ten.
Grenade launchers just drop on you and end you.
A 'noobtuber' wouldnt getting far with just random spamming, even with scavenger enabled.Cowabungaa said:
The real problem is that the tube shoots instantly.. Its a insta-kill, twitch-friendly medium-long range weapon, where its only downside is the gravity.
The easiest fix would be to add a firing delay to it, equal to the primary weapon grenade launcher (china launcher?).
This would make the 'noobtube' a tool to clean rooms instead of a pure weapon.
For me, the hate I have for tubes is the randomness. There are times when I've been camped out in a shrubbery with my sniper rifle, and suddenly a smoke grenade goes off, and a second later a tube arcs out and gets me, and I'm all 'Yes, this is what tubes are for, I applaud this opponent's skillful use of his equipment' because that's the kind of thing they were designed for, and other games where I've been knifed/shot/blown up a dozen times because I was simply out played and thought 'This person is highly skilled, and it was my own fault for leaving openings he could get me from.' And then there are the random tubes. Despite being fine with dieing dozens of times to a skilled player, stealthily working my way through the map only to have some random corner I'm approaching blow up because someone is randomly firing tubes, that's my main complaint. Once you can start accidentally knife people by randomly swinging for no discernible reason, that's when I'll admit the knife is on the same level as the tube for being OP.
I'm with you.Klonoa Prower said:
Fuck people's feelings. I'm going to use whatever weapons I want and beat you. You can whine all you like, but I'm still going to win, because you won't man up and play the game the way it was meant to be played.
not true, let my friend play on my live account couple days ago, MW2 he was getting 20~30 kills a game and on top the whole time, thing is he doesn't even own a call of duty game and has only ever played intermittently at other peoples houses so he is a bit of a noobteisjm said:
battle field 3 has strategy? i played the beta and all it was is camping ON BOTH SIDES i haven't had a match that went passed the first rush objective in days nobody even goes for the objective they only care about kills hell i just played a guy that went 58-15 capping his ass off and on the LOSING team. not to mention you die faster in BF than cod and don't regen health as fast makes for some real BS camping.ReiverCorrupter said:
