Dr. Cakey said:
Therumancer said:
Hi, I'm a full-time liberal and part-time troll, which I believe linguistically makes me a lib-troll, and I think you're both misrepresenting my views and dramatically overestimating my intelligence.
Unless a lib-troll is someone who trolls Mad Libs, in which case your posts do not apply to me.
alphamalet said:
This is officially my favorite thread ever. I can't count how many times I've bursted out laughing at some of this crap.
We have misguided anger, political manifestos, and humor all in 120 posts. It's fucking brilliant.
We need to get this thread stickied so years from now people can go back and read it.
A lib-troll is someone who uses liberal philsophies to troll, targeting liberals with the attempt to get them rallied as much as anyone else.
I used the term to state a differance between what I'm talking about and someone who is genuinely trying to make a point or doing something they believe in, as opposed to trying to stir up trouble and get attention.
I'm pretty middle of the road politically myself (where I swing left rarely comes up on these forums), despite what a lot of people might think, so to pick something in general off the general topics, let's say your expressing a left wing attitude towards unions and workers rights, argueing with someone whose supporting employers rights and the right of businesses to do what they want to employees as a benefit of their position. That makes you a liberal, your actually trying to make a legitimate, constructive, point about an actual issue, regardless of whether anyone agrees with you.
A lib-troll is someone who realizes that simply mentioning sexism, homophobia, and other hot button social issues is enough to get a stampede going, people willing to jump in and start attacking without really thinking things through simply due to the issue. As a result they decide to try and CREATE issues to stir up trouble, so they can watch the chaos unfold, similar to yelling fire in a crowded movie theater. You go to a set of forums or community known to heavily be populated by people who swing to the left, you pick something noticible and say "that's sexist" with a weak justification, and then watch everyone pile on it, and go to elaborate lengths to attack whoever created it based off of whatever vague reasons they concocted.
That's a simple version of it, but the phenomena exists, and people are catching onto it. This is why you actually have things like the "Hitman Absolution" trailer being an issue, or why the "Cyberpunk 2020" trailer is being called contreversial even if a lot of people can't see it. It's because someone looking to cause trouble, came walking up, pretty much said "that's sexist" and then tons of people pig-piled on it to attack the politically incorrect boogie man without the slightest bit of consideration for whether the claims were true or it was put into context.
Of course I'd imagine your jokes (and the troll mentioning "Faux News") here generally come from the reaction of "OMG Therumancer mentioned Liberal in a negative context" without even bothering to read how it was intended, what it was being used for, or what the accusation was. In this case I carefully chose the term I was going to use to differentiate it from liberals in general, rather than saying all liberals were trolls.
People might actually want to read what I say, and the context, before jumping to conclusions. My posts tend to be long but that's because I convey a lot of information and along with it intended context.
Also if you want to get technical I've actually been pretty positive towards liberals as a whole during this, because part of my point is that a lot of the aggressiveness is from people not falling for it to the extent they used to, and that includes liberals. The reason why a certain female blogger generated such an epic amount of hate with her trolling attempt was that a lot of the people she was expecting to support her, rather vehemently turned on her, and truthfully people who realize there has been an attempt to manipulate them like this are oftentimes the worst of all. I wouldn't be surprised if we ever found out who made some of the worst threats and attacks, it turned out to be people who would have supported a real woman's right issue rather vehemently. I also wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them were from girls, because honestly, girls tend to be surprisingly nasty to each other when they get pissed.
