Crysis 2 put into perspective

[icame]

Snip because you talk to much

Snip because I talk to much.

CryEngine was not made for open worlds, it was made with the ability to create them. They decided to go with a different approach for the second game. Deal with it. I understand wanting another open world, but not having such a thing does not make a game suddenly suck. At least try to realize the benefits of such a thing.

*Caps lock on to match your own*
SINCE WHEN DID THEY EVER SAY THERE WAS GOING TO BE MOD SUPPORT. I READ NO SUCH THING. THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF YOUR AD HOMINEM. DERP DERP.
*Caps off*
Unless your speaking of DX11 and such which is being patched in. Also this might interest you:

http://pixelsmashers.com/?p=8686

Rumor says Nvidia is getting the DX11 patch held back for the release of GTX 590. (Which is a massive dick move if true.)

Please explain how a man flying away when you punch him opens up tactical opportunities? All I can see is that giving away your position to enemies, a bad thing. Finally, I don't know about you but I feel pretty bad-ass when I do stealth kills. Watching an enemies path before coming in at the perfect time to stab him in the head is awesome.

P.S. Why does it say in the 2nd post after your one responding to me that I was the one saying those things? That was Zhukov

 

[Fidelias]

Why is it such a big deal that the game say, "Press Start to begin"?

Seriously, that is the most pathetically petty complaint I have ever seen. It makes PC gamers look like those whiny creatures who complain about superhero costumes.

If the port has other issues then fine, complain to you heart's content. Lord knows, I would.

But "Press Start to begin" is just not worth it.

Go away, you haven't even played crysis 1.
You do not even have any reason to even criticize our criticism because you haven't even played what we are comparing the game to.
Go away, and enjoy your poor-of-a-sequel-but-still-just-fine-as-a-game.

I've played the original Crysis, and you know what? I think the sequel is just as good as the original. The graphics ARE better, and this is from someone who played Crysis 1 on Maximum settings without any lag whatsoever, and then bought Crysis 2 for X-box.

Crysis 2 controls very well, and I'm sure it's just as easy on the computer. If it isn't, I'm sure that you could pay 40 bucks for a game controller. I mean, if you could pay for a computer to run Crysis, investing in a game controller shouldn't be a big deal.

I find the story to be MUCH better in the second game. It feels more like a steady progression, rather than the first game, where you go through half the game and then, "Ooooh aliens".

I do have issues with the different way to control the nanosuit modes, and effectively taking out speed a strength mode.
I also have gripes with how linear they made the game.

But overall, Crysis 2 is an excellent game that I will be playing through multiple times, and enjoying every bueatiful second of it.

 

[Jaime_Wolf]

It has/had quite a few mind boggling issues (press start to begin, adjust tv brightness, auto-aim) and going with the New York setting has limited the open endedness that defined the original. Yes, powers are more limited than before and yes, the AI is worse.

What does brightness callibration have to do with TVs? Monitors need callibration too. "Press start to begin" was only in the demo and was even patched there after a couple of days. Auto-aim was only ever for people playing with gamepads and it was taken out even for them by the last patch.

However, I am willing to give Crytek the benefit of the doubt because it is a good game at the end of the day. No, I'm not going to buy it until the Steam sale at the end of the year because it is a step backwards from Crysis and there's little reason for me to buy what amounts to a stripped down version of the original, but I still have to ackowledge that some of the community reactions are unjustified.

This is an extremely myopic view. You're basically condemning the game because it wasn't Crysis with better graphics. It's a different game. It makes no sense to criticise it based on it not being a completely different game.

Overall, I don't agree with a lot of the design decisions and while the multiplayer isn't anything new or different, at the end of the day, it is a good game and I think we should put away our pitchforks, if only until Crysis 3.

You've got an awfully large pitchfork of your own to be saying that.

I will overlook this misstep, but I do expect a revolution with Crysis 3.

I lol'd. I'm sure Crytek is really happy you're willing to overlook this misstep. Hopefully they'll go a bit further out of their way to please you with Crysis 3.

I expect more powers and more focused powers (forget the new game + idea and focus on having, let's say 8 powers while providing limitations for each and shaping level, enemy and general gameplay design around those limitations). I expect more open levels. I expect it to be the graphical king, combining the revolutionary graphical design philosophy of the first game with the optimization design of the second. I expect it to take the gameplay of Crysis and meld it with the story philosophy of Crysis 2 (albeit an improved storyline and storytelling of Crysis 2), providing great gameplay with a thrilling story. I expect actual alien AI (not making aliens just aggressive humans). All this I think everyone expects.

You expect a completely different game. The fact that everyone expects this is the reason we're seeing so much complaining. You're not even critiquing Crysis 2 anywhere in here, you're just pointing out that it isn't the Crysis 2 you would have designed.

What do you all think? Should Crytek be given another chance?

Lol'd again.

 

[MrTub]

Stop discriminating pc gamers!!
We are not pirates!!
Crysis sold 3 milion copies+,which is more than double that what Mortal Kombat vs DC Universe sold on both xbox360 and ps3 combined.

I'm not discriminating against PC gamers; as a matter of fact, I myself have been a PC gamer since 1991, and there's a Dragon Age: Origins Ultimate Edition DVD in my drive as we speak.

However, the mere fact that a game sold well does not mean that it couldn't have sold BETTER if not for piracy. Not to mention that comparing a hugely publicised shooter to a fighting game isn't exactly fair.

Mate, as I said before, I am not trying to insult anybody. I am just stating facts: the vast majority of PC games are not paid for. That's not to say that PC gamers are somehow more criminally inclined than their console brethren - piracy on the PSP and DS is rampant as well, and much for the same reason: it's easy. If PS3 games were as easy to pirate as PC games were, I'm sure that PS3 piracy would be just as ubiquitous.

Well one of the reason Crysis 1 was pirated a lot simply cause people wanted to see if they could run it (at least people I know)

 

[MrTub]

My terrible and pissed off day...achieved with CryEngine 3.

So I decided to give in and buy Crysis 2 despite having several issues with the way it was designed. Why the hell not, I enjoyed the multiplayer demo, so it should hold me over until Brink. Guess what? It's damn near unplayable on my system. I have crossfire HD 6870s, and just like the rest of the internet:

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS283&q=crysis+2+crossfire+flicker&aq=f&aqi=p-p1g1&aql=&oq=

I get a terrible flicker that was not present in the demo. I can't use any of the presented solutions with the Steam version of the game. Best I can do to remedy the problem is disable crossfire and get a jumpy 35-60 FPS. Been trying to find a fix that works all day.

So good job for getting me to buy an unplayable game at $60, Crytek. I should have just stayed on the fence for another month or so.

Go rant on Radeon not releasing a crossfire profile update.

 

[Still Life]

Wow.

The self-entitlement complex has been turned up to 11 in here.

I'm a PC gamer, and very happy with Crysis 2. Slick and fast gameplay, but still retains the depth of the first. Smaller environments, but with an excellent amount of flexibility for an urban shooter.

Wicked art design, though I'll admit there are lower res textures; improved lighting and the detail in the environments is better than the first. It's remarkable that Crytek have made such a great looking game multiplat.

 

[Still Life]

Wow.

The self-entitlement complex has been turned up to 11 in here.

I'm a PC gamer, and very happy with Crysis 2. Slick and fast gameplay, but still retains the depth of the first. Smaller environments, but with an excellent amount of flexibility for an urban shooter.

Wicked art design, though I'll admit there are lower res textures; improved lighting and the detail in the environments is better than the first. It's remarkable that Crytek have made such a great looking game multiplat.

It's not a bad game by any means. It just doesn't come anywhere close to measuring up to its predecessor. So, just as with Dragon Age 2, it probably would have been better if they had just declared it as a new franchise rather than a sequel. That way we wouldn't be expecting all the same features to be present, in addition to some new ones.

I'm not going to begrudge anyone who prefers the first. I enjoyed Crysis a lot, though for me, it was mostly due to the visuals and how they immersed you in the world. I do take issue with the amount of vitriol and rampant 'elitism' that is being spouted by some in the community, however.

For me, the sequel delivers very high quality visuals and improves upon the gameplay and story elements a lot. It has flaws, but not nearly enough to turn me off from having an absolute blast.

I simply haven't had this much fun in a singleplayer FPS for quite a while and the MP isn't too shabby either.

 

[Vibhor]

CryEngine was not made for open worlds, it was made with the ability to create them. They decided to go with a different approach for the second game. Deal with it. I understand wanting another open world, but not having such a thing does not make a game suddenly suck. At least try to realize the benefits of such a thing.

Deal with it?
Thats the best you can do?
How about this, The game sucks, deal with it.
And those were my opinions that less open world makes the game crap. I didn't like the change so I complained about it. And losing the open worlds is losing a feature and what you are saying is like losing an arm is a benefit. You don't have to clean your arms. Not that writing, simplicity in eating matters anyway.

*Caps lock on to match your own*
SINCE WHEN DID THEY EVER SAY THERE WAS GOING TO BE MOD SUPPORT. I READ NO SUCH THING. THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF YOUR AD HOMINEM. DERP DERP.
*Caps off*
Unless your speaking of DX11 and such which is being patched in. Also this might interest you:

http://pixelsmashers.com/?p=8686

Rumor says Nvidia is getting the DX11 patch held back for the release of GTX 590. (Which is a massive dick move if true.)

Ad hominem is when you use personal insults in an argument, shouting has nothing to do with it, but telling someone that they took their opinion out of their ass is.

Please explain how a man flying away when you punch him opens up tactical opportunities? All I can see is that giving away your position to enemies, a bad thing. Finally, I don't know about you but I feel pretty bad-ass when I do stealth kills. Watching an enemies path before coming in at the perfect time to stab him in the head is awesome.

P.S. Why does it say in the 2nd post after your one responding to me that I was the one saying those things? That was Zhukov

You see, removing a feature is removing a feature. Tell me what fun is shooting a gun when they could just have added a laser that kills the enemy and removes a little percentage of your health?
And the reply thingy was because I am blind and actually cannot read user names or if you want something more fake then I just didn't care.Because I am blind

 

[Still Life]

Wow.

The self-entitlement complex has been turned up to 11 in here.

I'm a PC gamer, and very happy with Crysis 2. Slick and fast gameplay, but still retains the depth of the first. Smaller environments, but with an excellent amount of flexibility for an urban shooter.

Wicked art design, though I'll admit there are lower res textures; improved lighting and the detail in the environments is better than the first. It's remarkable that Crytek have made such a great looking game multiplat.

It's not a bad game by any means. It just doesn't come anywhere close to measuring up to its predecessor. So, just as with Dragon Age 2, it probably would have been better if they had just declared it as a new franchise rather than a sequel. That way we wouldn't be expecting all the same features to be present, in addition to some new ones.

I'm not going to begrudge anyone who prefers the first. I enjoyed Crysis a lot, though for me, it was mostly due to the visuals and how they immersed you in the world. I do take issue with the amount of vitriol and rampant 'elitism' that is being spouted by some in the community, however.

For me, the sequel delivers very high quality visuals and improves upon the gameplay and story elements a lot. It has flaws, but not nearly enough to turn me off from having an absolute blast.

I simply haven't had this much fun in a singleplayer FPS for quite a while and the MP isn't too shabby either.

I'm actually enjoying the multiplayer a lot more than the campaign. It just feels a bit too simplistic. No speed/strength suit modes, more linear level design, and a hold-your-hand approach to all the different angles. The first Crysis' multiplayer, on the other hand, was pretty bad. There were some awesome mods for it, though. So at least Crysis 2 is a big improvement in that regard, even if some say it's just like CoD (which I've never played online).

The shooting and level sizes are similar to COD. It borrows from other games, though. Notably BF: BC2 and Halo.

I like it. It's not anything new, but it feels different and fresh. Love cloaking in multiplayer.

Glad to hear you're having fun!

 

[Irridium]

Now I'll just sit here and wait patiently for Crytek UK to make the next Timesplitters game. That's a definite pre-order if it ever happens (and comes to the PC).

After this game, I don't know if I want another Timesplitters game. If they're just going to make it like Call of Duty like they did with Crysis, they can let the series lie where it is.

 

[Watchmacallit]

This whole 'the graphics aren't good enough' i getting on my nerves.

THEY ARE GOOD GRAPHICS!

Graphics for games that are coming out don't need to get better, they are beautiful as they are, unless you want them to actually start filming the scenery and characters I don't know what you people want.

Crysis 2, IMO, made a lot of improvements. The AI is BETTER! If you play on easy of course the AI is going to be stupid, its supposed to be. The AI also doesn't have pin-point sniper aim with a machine gun like in Crysis.

The game is also much, much more slim line. From not having to switch to speed or strength powers to peering over a wall simply being right click when crouched behind a wall, none of that sticky stuff other cover shooters have.

On top of that it is a Stealth game, a cover shooter and a plain old shooter all in one. I mean, I've gone from assassinating an enemy to gunning down 3 others that turned around, then I ran off, slid under a truck, went stealth and assassinated the last guy...Name the amount of games that let you do that.

The scenery was much, much better than Crysis. Not the look, but the usefulness. There was NO cover in the original...except for bushes, that don't do anything. Also, in this Crysis you were to be feared by the enemy. You were actually really dangerous and powerful, something the first failed to get across.

I enjoyed the Single player for Crysis 2, much better than the first. For the first part of the game you're so alone and its amazing. Seeing New York absolutely devastated was awesome.

Yes, the AI do walk into walls but killing one will make another send up a flare calling for reinforcements.

The multiplayer is good. I hate seeing 'CoD' clone...CoD made a good semi realistic shooter...What was Crysis supposed to do? Make you farm or mine? ITS A SHOOTER! THEY DON'T GET MUCH DIFFERENT!

The servers are horrible, the disconnections are horrible and the online info doesn't get saved nearly enough but I accredit some of that to Game Spy >_>


I expect others to have their own views and I respect them. But the way people talk about this game bothers me. It is a good game and a lot of people put down the WHOLE game because the graphics weren't Godly and for some reason shooting a gun means its a CoD clone...Even though you fight aliens...And can run really fast...and mount buildings and jump to another building and then assassinate an enemy while cloaked? Oh wait, why am I being sarcastic, I remember doing that is MWF2 and BlOps.

Lastly, I don't blame companies for focusing on the consoles, PC suffered a huge hit in the last 10 years. Illegal downloading almost killed it.

 

[Lullabye]

[HEADING=1]...and yes, the AI is worse.[/HEADING]

OMG THIS GAME HAS CRUSHED MY HOPES AND DREAMS!!!!!

I seriously looooooooooooooooooved the a.i in Crysis. THEY DODGED CRAP I THREW AT THEM! That's more than I could ever had hoped for in a game. But now......What is this shit?They freaking nerfed the A.I? If I wanted to play Call of Duty then I'd play Call of Duty! STUPID CRYTEK WHY U NO MAKE GOOD A.I?
[sub]I'll still play it though since its better than most others shooters out now...[/sub]
/end rage

 

[archvile93]

OK then. I'm not really sure what you mean by that but I'm not going to hound you to elaborate as you clearly don't want to discuss it.

I'm not going to discuss it because it has been discussed to death and there is plenty of evidence showing that piracy rarely, if ever, equals poor sales. It's a non issue and I'm tired of discussing the issue with people, especially if they haven't done their research.

Thing is, while your right that piracy isn't nearly as bad as companies think it is, that doesn't matter. In business it doesn't matter how things are, it's how people think they are. If companies think the PC is a bad platform because they'll lose all their money to pirates, they won't develop for it. It doesn't matter if this is true or not, they think it is, so they minimize the resources given to it resulting in a poor product or don't bother to make it at all. This is one of the reasons developers are switiching to consoles, they believe it is a more secure platform, and therefore will make more money. Is this true? Maybe, maybe not. Does it matter? Not in the slightest.

 

[WhySoElitist]

[/quote]Crysis 2 is more linear than Crysis 1. Cryengine was fucking made for open non linear fucking levels. And you cannot say it helps in story because in the case of crysis the story is always shit. If you play crysis for story then... may god help your soul.
I do smell a butthurt consoletard from all the unnecessary flame. It seems you were not able to make a good point and instead resorted to ad hominem, keep this up and I would declare victory in this argument.[/quote]


you do realize people like you are the reason so many console gamers hate us. if the story is always shit THEN WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING if you dont like it why do you care if its console or if its pc.
if more PC gamers could be like me and realize that a game is a game, not a pc game, not an xbox game or a ps3 game.
how would pc gamers like it if they made every aspect of games like cod (which are actually made more for the consoles gamers) completley shit for pc. or how would console gamers like it if they had to upgrade their console to play a game. the game was not made for consoles but it wasn't made for pc it was MADE FOR BOTH. get your heads out of your arses and realize that there are bigger issues in life than a game saying press start it is not an insult it is an honest mistake. i am a pc gamer and nothing about crysis 2 has offended me whatsoever

 

[Rad Party God]

I guess Crysis 2 is the new Dragon Age 2.

The game actually looks like it's lots of fun, I'll play it eventually, but not right now. I may get it when it gets discounted on Steam.

 

[Freechoice]

Fuck off with your PC bullshit. Is the storyline worth a toss?

The general consensus is not really.

At least the suit says "armor" and not "ah-mah."

 

[Astalano]

Fuck off with your PC bullshit. Is the storyline worth a toss?

The general consensus is not really.

At least the suit says "armor" and not "ah-mah."

It's armour.

 

[Astalano]

Lastly, I don't blame companies for focusing on the consoles, PC suffered a huge hit in the last 10 years. Illegal downloading almost killed it.

Ignorance is bliss I see.

 

[Freechoice]

Fuck off with your PC bullshit. Is the storyline worth a toss?

The general consensus is not really.

At least the suit says "armor" and not "ah-mah."

It's armour.

Not here it ain't.

 

[Astalano]

Fuck off with your PC bullshit. Is the storyline worth a toss?

The general consensus is not really.

At least the suit says "armor" and not "ah-mah."

It's armour.

Not here it ain't.

Well there people don't speak proper English and change words for the sake of being different.

Also, "honor" is a stupid way of spelling "honour".