Crysis 2 Writer Calls Modern Warfare 2 a Disappointment

Terramax

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Since when was it socially acceptable for video game companies to take pot shots at other ones? Am I the only one under the opinion that this makes the industry seem like it's acting a little bit childish?
 

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well, some people obviouslt liked the game, but last I heard, two head executives of infinity ward got fired, and infinity ward won't be making games with activision again. treyarch is still with them though.
 

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Furburt said:
That dude said:
He went on to say that Modern Warfare 2 is a "massive step down from Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare"
I wholeheartedly agree, I thought that COD4's story was, while a little over the top, certainly plausible. MW2 was almost a GI Joe episode it was so ridiculous. And I've heard it advertised as a 'Gritty, realistic combat simulator'. Oh dear.

Still, it remains to be seen whether this is just industry bitchiness, or if his product actually delivers a better story. If it's anything like Crysis 1, then he has no right to complain.
I thought Crysis's story was ok. Its a fun sci-romp, none of that pretentious realism that most modern FPS now have.
 

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Starke said:
Decoy Doctorpus said:
You know what? I quite enjoyed it. The overall plot arch was absolutely bananas but the characters themselves were generally pretty well written and some well chosne voice actors really helped bring them to life. Crysis (yes I know Morgan didn't write Crysis but when you're the lead writer on the sequel comparisons are going to get made) suffered the exact opposite problem. Crysis had an interesting well paced story (they really ramp up the anticipation when it comes to the aliens) populated by the most boring, unimaginative characters possible.

I wonder if Morgan can make Crysis 2 into interesting.
I hope so... To be honest, at least they made Psycho interesting in the expansion pack, but I'm pretty sure he's the only character in the franchise at this point with any personality.
And thats only because he is basically Jason Statham
 

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Booze Zombie said:
Rainboq said:
Bet you anything Shepard comes back, albiat missing an eye
Would they really use that cliche, too?
Yes, yes they would.
Terramax said:
Since when was it socially acceptable for video game companies to take pot shots at other ones? Am I the only one under the opinion that this makes the industry seem like it's acting a little bit childish?
It does, and this childishness is a big part of why the gaming industry doesn't get taken seriously in the larger entertainment industry. Combine that wit horrifically bad writing and a lot of people who don't know how to craft entertainment (as aside from making games) at the various helms and a stigma of games from the 70s and 80s in popular thought (for example look at Michael Ironside's perception of games [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/99686-Splinter-Cell-Voice-Actor-Doesnt-Like-Violence]) and games start to look like the red headed stepchild of entertainment.
Mazty said:
How can people really disagree with MW2 having a bad storyline? Facts are it makes no sense and is implausible....Not really any room for debate as the article suggests.
The same way people laud Bioware, without really offering any concrete defenses. I've got a theory, but I've never actually tested it. The idea is, people are more committed, and thus, more willing to defend, the stories in games because of the effort required in experiencing them. The player, at some level is more likely to sympathize with their game protagonist because they've (sort of) shared some of their experiences.
 

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johnman said:
Starke said:
I hope so... To be honest, at least they made Psycho interesting in the expansion pack, but I'm pretty sure he's the only character in the franchise at this point with any personality.
And thats only because he is basically Jason Statham
Jason Statham, so awesome he makes other unrelated characters better.
 

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Much as the consensus seems to agree with Mr. Morgan, it does seem to me like the mudslinging that was the norm in political races has now begun to have a use in the games industry.
Although it is all the more the cheap shot considering Crysis 1's story sits on the same bench as MW2's.
"Let s/he who is without crap sling the first mud"
 

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In fairness, the story was a bit more disjointed in MW2.

it was like, ok we're in Brazil. arms dealerOH SHIT RUSSIANS IN AMERICAN HOMES!!!

It was somewhat more far-fetched than CoD4, but on the other hand it was much more cinematic and full of 'MAEDOFWIN' moments.
 

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Yes, yes it did.

Aside from helicopters falling from the sky, MW2's campain held no enjoyment for me.
 

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[quote/]Is this just one man's opinion, or did Modern Warfare 2 really disappoint as far as the single-player game goes?[/quote]

...Is someone even asking this question?
 

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ma55ter_fett said:
Yes, yes it did.

Aside from helicopters falling from the sky, MW2's campain held no enjoyment for me.
Honestly, Operation Flashpoint and ARMA let you do that in the editor fairly easily...

SomeBritishDude said:
[quote/]Is this just one man's opinion, or did Modern Warfare 2 really disappoint as far as the single-player game goes?
...Is someone even asking this question?[/quote]I didn't want to pay $10 an hour to find out how bad the SP was, and I don't play multi?
 

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Starke said:
SomeBritishDude said:
[quote/]Is this just one man's opinion, or did Modern Warfare 2 really disappoint as far as the single-player game goes?
...Is someone even asking this question?
I didn't want to pay $10 an hour to find out how bad the SP was, and I don't play multi?[/quote]

...Wu?
 

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SomeBritishDude said:
Starke said:
SomeBritishDude said:
[quote/]Is this just one man's opinion, or did Modern Warfare 2 really disappoint as far as the single-player game goes?
...Is someone even asking this question?
I didn't want to pay $10 an hour to find out how bad the SP was, and I don't play multi?
...Wu?[/quote]Yeah, that was surprisingly less coherent than intended. Personally I haven't played MW2, so someone could ask that question honestly if they haven't played it.
 

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I liked MW2 story. It was a cheesy, popcorn action flick inspired mass of craziness that was enough to hold together some awesome moments. It wasn't a piece of art but it worked if you wern't expecting Hemingway, and realized that a sequal would come along after it. Also, I loved Crysis, but I have to say that it was NOT for the storyline. The storyline was super generic, the characters were 1 dimensional, and it was all very, very cliche. So I think this is just company smack talk coupled with a matter of personal taste. Sorry, but though I am looking forward to the second Crysis, the story is the sprig of parsley on the side of the dish: You kind of have to have it there for appearances, but it adds nothing to the experience.
 

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I liked MW2 campaign for it's epicness (is that even a proper word?) but overall it's story felt very jumbled and roughly put together. MW1 still takes the cake either way though if you ask me.
 

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Tom Goldman said:
The world doesn't seem to have the same opinion as Morgan, or care as much, considering how people have already played Modern Warfare 2 for 200,000 years [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/99811-Modern-Warfare-2-Players-Log-200-000-Gameplay-Years] on Xbox Live alone up to this point.
What? There's tons of people (myself included) who thought the story was stupid as hell. Just because people play the game's multiplayer a lot doesn't mean they think the story was any good. The game just had gigantic plot holes.