Crysis 2 Writer: Halo is "Full of Bullsh*t"

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At least shit made sense.
I played one of the Crysis games and found myself fighting Koreans on an Island with a box with poorly photoshopped bananas in it before I eventually could not understand what I was supposed to do and gave up.

Fuck that game.
 

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Donnyp said:
Mcface said:
Donnyp said:
lol. I love him.....this is exactly what i've been saying since Number 1. Let it be known i enjoy playing number 1 just not 2 or 3....Number one was good even though it had a lame story. Not Great or amazing Good....

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Andy Chalk said:
"I can't believe that there are players out there who rush through Dead Space [http://deadspace.ea.com/], or BioShock, without taking any time to just look around or to take in any of the story strands. Why would you pay 50 bucks for a game, then ignore 50 percent of its content? It's like, 'Hey, I'm reading this book, but it's a bit long, so I'm going to rip the last half out'."
So true lol.
Yes because Crysis 1 was SUUUCH an original and good story. /sarcasm

I'm going to lmao when 2 comes out, and it's "ALIENZ HAZ INVADED THE NEWYORKS!"
*asp* What is this?! A shitty publicity stunt trying to be edgy and cool to cause more stir about the game you are working on? UNHEARD OF! This type of obvious troll is obvious junk will never end up on a self respecting site.

Owait.
I never said theirs was good lol. And i haven't played number 1 so no comment.
It was just as generic, actually more so, than halo.
Top secret recon squad on island, discovers monster/aliens.
the end.
about 7 hours worth.
 

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Machines said:
You found Mass Effect 2's plot confusing? That would say enough for me to not carry on but I shall say no more about that.

You are saying that a Sci-Fi set in the future is "implausible", do you have any idea how stupid that sounds?
I don't think he found it confusing as much as he found it stupid, full of plot holes and... oh yeah, really melodramatic.

A Sci-Fi set in the future becomes implausible when it begins with Shepherd's body falling out of orbit around a planet and burning up in the atmosphere. Then having enough of him/her/it survive to be brought back as cyber zombie. Anyone who knows anything about physics knows that no advances in technology is going to make that possible especially in a space suit that has a hard time withstanding bullets. In short, there wouldn't be anything to put back together. But that's another debate entirely. Just like human genetic diversity (of which humanity has almost none by the way). Otherwise you could fuck your cousin and not have things go horribly wrong.

Machines said:
Of course it didn't bloody resolve, it's part two of a trilogy. It's like complaining 'The Empire Strikes Back' didn't resolve, it's not supposed to.
Yeah, except the Empire Strikes Back has actual plot and character development. AKA things change. The only thing that changes between ME1 and ME2 is that you died and are know working for Cerberus. Oh yeah, and Shepherd got dumber. Must be a result of all that brain damage from burning up in atmo that they couldn't fix.


Machines said:
I would also like to know how exactly you came to the logic that I am not an author, I don't recall every saying what my career is on this site.

Your obvious retort would be "The way you write", which is to be expected of you based upon the maturity of your response so far.
You? A professional author? Really? Nah...

Well, for one thing you wouldn't be a good one if you thought ME2 had great writing. Tsk. Tsk. You wouldn't have gotten confused by what Richard Morgan was saying about having archetypes instead of characters. You'd more likely be on his side. You don't write like a writer and you don't think like a writer. If you were, you wouldn't see any problem with him airing his opinions on the shitty writing in video games. You'd already know how much it sucks. In fact, you'd already be in the habit of doing critical analysis, because it's an important part of your craft.

You'd also know how terribly written the Mass Effect novels are because you'd be reading other books that are not related to video game titles and bringing those up instead. Also, it wouldn't be just for fun but because it would be part of your job.
 

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Mcface said:
Donnyp said:
Mcface said:
Donnyp said:
lol. I love him.....this is exactly what i've been saying since Number 1. Let it be known i enjoy playing number 1 just not 2 or 3....Number one was good even though it had a lame story. Not Great or amazing Good....

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Andy Chalk said:
"I can't believe that there are players out there who rush through Dead Space [http://deadspace.ea.com/], or BioShock, without taking any time to just look around or to take in any of the story strands. Why would you pay 50 bucks for a game, then ignore 50 percent of its content? It's like, 'Hey, I'm reading this book, but it's a bit long, so I'm going to rip the last half out'."
So true lol.
Yes because Crysis 1 was SUUUCH an original and good story. /sarcasm

I'm going to lmao when 2 comes out, and it's "ALIENZ HAZ INVADED THE NEWYORKS!"
*asp* What is this?! A shitty publicity stunt trying to be edgy and cool to cause more stir about the game you are working on? UNHEARD OF! This type of obvious troll is obvious junk will never end up on a self respecting site.

Owait.
I never said theirs was good lol. And i haven't played number 1 so no comment.
It was just as generic, actually more so, than halo.
Top secret recon squad on island, discovers monster/aliens.
the end.
about 7 hours worth.
Yeah, about that. Also they kill a lot of Koreans in hilarious ways, involving throwing them through buildings.

Though, again, seriously, this is a DIFFERENT writer from the first Crysis game.
 

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That's what I usually say when I'm killed on multiplayer.

I agree though. I can go on and get in a random match, and I can garantee that half the server hasn't beaten the campaign yet.
 

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nightwolf667 said:
You'd also know how terribly written the Mass Effect novels are because you'd be reading other books that are not related to video game titles and bringing those up instead. Also, it wouldn't be just for fun but because it would be part of your job.
What is this "reading for fun" shit you speak of?
 

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ddq5 said:
JEBWrench said:
ddq5 said:
Tomorrow: "Crysis 2 Writer says Gears of War is 'majorly fucking retarded.' "

He does seem to enjoy dissing mainstream games, especially their stories. I supposes Crysis 2 will have to prove that he isn't just talking out of his ass.
Vigilantis said:
I agree with him on his bashing I know of so far (Modern Warfare 2 and now Halo) however, though I do agree, I see this as being a little bit too cocky for his new product. Hopefully Crysis 2 lives up to all this talk.

Tommorow..."Crysis 2 Writer: Starcraft isn't story driven enough and Gears of War is just a bloody eyesore"
I feel a meme coming on.
"Crysis 2 Writer: Mass Effect 2: 'Sucked and should be ashamed of itself'"
"Crysis 2 Writer: 'Every one sucks but me!'"

As many people have already said, if Crysis 2 isnt amazing or at least very good I bet he will not be allowed to go near the media ever again.
 

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Angus565 said:
ddq5 said:
JEBWrench said:
ddq5 said:
Tomorrow: "Crysis 2 Writer says Gears of War is 'majorly fucking retarded.' "

He does seem to enjoy dissing mainstream games, especially their stories. I supposes Crysis 2 will have to prove that he isn't just talking out of his ass.
Vigilantis said:
I agree with him on his bashing I know of so far (Modern Warfare 2 and now Halo) however, though I do agree, I see this as being a little bit too cocky for his new product. Hopefully Crysis 2 lives up to all this talk.

Tommorow..."Crysis 2 Writer: Starcraft isn't story driven enough and Gears of War is just a bloody eyesore"
I feel a meme coming on.
"Crysis 2 Writer: Mass Effect 2: 'Sucked and should be ashamed of itself'"
"Crysis 2 Writer: 'Every one sucks but me!'"

As many people have already said, if Crysis 2 isnt amazing or at least very good I bet he will not be allowed to go near the media ever again.
Crysis 2 Writer: Your meme is bad and you should feel bad. John Solomon found at long last.
 

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Starke said:
Angus565 said:
ddq5 said:
JEBWrench said:
ddq5 said:
Tomorrow: "Crysis 2 Writer says Gears of War is 'majorly fucking retarded.' "

He does seem to enjoy dissing mainstream games, especially their stories. I supposes Crysis 2 will have to prove that he isn't just talking out of his ass.
Vigilantis said:
I agree with him on his bashing I know of so far (Modern Warfare 2 and now Halo) however, though I do agree, I see this as being a little bit too cocky for his new product. Hopefully Crysis 2 lives up to all this talk.

Tommorow..."Crysis 2 Writer: Starcraft isn't story driven enough and Gears of War is just a bloody eyesore"
I feel a meme coming on.
"Crysis 2 Writer: Mass Effect 2: 'Sucked and should be ashamed of itself'"
"Crysis 2 Writer: 'Every one sucks but me!'"

As many people have already said, if Crysis 2 isnt amazing or at least very good I bet he will not be allowed to go near the media ever again.
Crysis 2 Writer: Your meme is bad and you should feel bad. John Solomon found at long last.
Yeah, I went too far with that one.
 

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wow really? a writer for a game where you shoot aliens in NYC is bashing a game where you shoot aliens in places that someone actually had to work to create instead of copy pasting google maps? my butthurt meter is screaming right now.
 

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Se7enUpMustang said:
wow really? a writer for a game where you shoot aliens in NYC is bashing a game where you shoot aliens in places that someone actually had to work to create instead of copy pasting google maps? my butthurt meter is screaming right now.
I'm sorry, are you really that technologically illiterate?
 

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Se7enUpMustang said:
wow really? a writer for a game where you shoot aliens in NYC is bashing a game where you shoot aliens in places that someone actually had to work to create instead of copy pasting google maps? my butthurt meter is screaming right now.
You do realize right that the quote is an amalgamation of what he said. He didn't actually say that "Halo is bullshit", it's a misquote. You should go read the actual interview before making judgments.
 

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Angus565 said:
Yeah, I went too far with that one.
The weird part is, and I know it's some kind of psychological weirdness on my part, but I could swear your avatar looks more depressed in that post...
 

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but also as books and a lot of branching out media... hell there were even some decent animated movies as well as some live action short clips.
Point is, I still find the Halo lore very deep and fun to get into, but given that the surface appears to just be a straight up action game I can't really blame him for not looking deeper.... save for that if he missed Halo 2 and that whole section with the Arbiter then that's the only way I can understand why he wouldn't at least acknowledge that the plot does not go on a linear path,
ok, now Vrex, while i agree with most of your opinion, i have to say that if a game fails to deliver a good story in... well... the game, having books, and other media filling the gaps does not make for a good story, i know the arbiter is an amazing character, but i also notice that he might be the only one

and another thing, you talk about "Lore" but in Video Games, Lore comes from what happens "In-Game" filling the holes with books and animated videos is not good Game story telling, and with todays advancements in VG, i dont know why we have to keep our stories on our books and our games on our consoles, there could be a very good story in a video game (like say in Bioware games) or ok, lets go to a more known example, Half Life, its a really good story telling, i know everything of what´s happened and i feel compelled to know more because of what happened in the game, comparing it to Halo, well, i still dont have a frikken idea of how it all started (the war with the aliens) or why should i care, who shot first? (for example) i might find out reading a book, but thats not a good story in a videogame its a good book made from a video game

no offence intended Vrex (i too love Halo, and i to know more about the lore and stuff, but still, its not a good story in the game, its a good story as a WHOLE)
I sort of see your point, but to me even if the games are the weakest entries in canon to me they still delivered a decent action/epic/popcorn muncher plot which is usually all you can hope for in a straight linear action game.
But hey, thanks for showing me respect, regardless.
 

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His books are not really that good though in all fairness. Especially when compared to the likes of Dan Abnett.
 

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About a week from now "Crysis 2 Writer says plants Vs Zombies has no character development".
 

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Mornelithe said:
As much as I liked Crysis/Crysis Warhead, I don't know much about Halo, but I can say at the very least, that Bungee actually optimized their code for the platform they were on. Unlike the abortion Crytek's currently working on. As for the writing? Heh...anyone who's played Warhead, knows the writing wasn't exactly....the most important factor of the games lol.
he did not write for crysis/warhead. he IS CURRENTLY writing for crysis 2. and read the interview
 

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April 29: Crysis 2 writer says Super Mario Bros' story was "like something a three year old would write" and that it was "pathetic". He also called the characters "Unrealistic" "generic" and "two-dimensional". He then stuffed his head into his own anus and resumed his normal activities.

OT:
Halo's story pretty much blows. It's pretty much detached from the pointless, linear and repetitive run n' gun game play that made it so damn popular.

IMO the Jak and Daxter trilogy had a good story.