Crytek: PCs Are a Generation Ahead of Consoles

Trelmayas

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WaaghPowa said:
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TheRightToArmBears said:
The thing is, not that many people have super-powered latest tech PCs. You could make a game for such crazy-ass PCs but it wouldn't sell too well.
The thing is, you don't need that. I invested in a good PC...two years ago. I can still run everything to the max.
This.
Also if you work out the actual costs of owning a home pc and a console, you'd be very surprised.
Rough math here: Console, 400 dollars after taxes, before additional accessories so about 500 - 600 depending on what you get.
Everyone on this forum has a computer obviously, Many of who probably purchases store pre builts so lets say 500 - 600 dollars.

You've effectively spent anywhere from 1000 to 1200 dollars on a console and a pc that can't play much of anything. with that much money you could've built a gaming pc that would blow an xbox out of the water and still serve as your home pc. Excluding the obvious exclusives most games are on pc as well.
It's much harder to argue cost of pc gaming when you work it out, and since Steam is always going nuts with sales, the cost of games in general is much lower than it would be for consoles.
Recheck your math. Xbox 360 $300. After sales tax that's $312-$336. Maybe throw in an extra controller and an extra something, it's $400 at most, not $500-$600. Most people aren't buying every single peripheral that's going to drive it above $400.
Basic pre-built laptop capable of high speed internet browsing, streaming movies in HD, and running Microsoft Office and Adobe Dreamweaver CS 5 cost me $400.

So personally I've spent about $750 and can do everything except play top level PC games. Even if I could have built a top of the line gaming rig for that much, I still wouldn't have a portable computer.

Additionally, most people don't want to deal with the hassle of getting games to work on the PC. Call me what you want, I just don't have the time or patience to troubleshoot when a game doesn't work on my PC. I've gone through that in the past when I had a gaming rig, and don't feel like it anymore. I like that when I buy a game for my Xbox, I put it in, and it runs. I'm not alone in this sentiment, and that's why consoles will always have a place.

Oh, and PC-fanboys, just because someone doesn't have the knowledge or inclination to build and maintain a gaming computer doesn't make them stupid. It means they have other pursuits, interests, and obligations outside of gaming.
 

Choppaduel

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F'ing right these consoles are holding back tech. This is the longest console cycle ever. Wake up people.
 

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BloodSquirrel said:
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That's "dissecting". Your argument is invalid.
(I can play this game...)
Nope- you actually have to have better Grammar. You made a mistake in the very sentence you were trying to call me out with, which is an instant loss. You've also just used an ellipses improperly.
This is the internet, English and spelling mean nothing here. Your argument is invalid.
It must feel great to have such an intellectual powerhouse on your side, lacktheknack.
Why is this person not banned yet?
 

Waaghpowa

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Trelmayas said:
My numbers are based on:
1) The usual costs where I'm from with the local sales tax
2) the amount of money I see people spend on electronics where I work

Also that 750 dollars you spent is actually more than what I spent for the initial computer I built over a year ago that's still more powerful than a console and does everything else.
It's fine that you just want your game to work, most people don't want to go through the trouble , I've personally never had a problem getting pc games to work; Steam sets up most of their games to work right after the download and if they don't they get patched pretty quick.

Never once did I say anyone was stupid or lacked technical understanding, I'm just showing you can get more bang for your buck and the cost argument isn't a particularly strong one.
 

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Ultratwinkie said:
AC10 said:
BloodSquirrel said:
Ultratwinkie said:
BloodSquirrel said:
lacktheknack said:
That's "dissecting". Your argument is invalid.
(I can play this game...)
Nope- you actually have to have better Grammar. You made a mistake in the very sentence you were trying to call me out with, which is an instant loss. You've also just used an ellipses improperly.
This is the internet, English and spelling mean nothing here. Your argument is invalid.
It must feel great to have such an intellectual powerhouse on your side, lacktheknack.
Why is this person not banned yet?
I wonder that myself as well.
Just make sure you're reporting posts in which he's being inflammatory, trolling, insulting or discouraging meaningful discussion. These things are disallowed on this site. The more reports, the sooner the mods will get to it.
 

maturin

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PCs are ahead because of games like Arma 2, which actually do things with the power and versatility of PCs.

Nobody cares how far ahead we are if it's all just "ooh, shiny!"
 

Delusibeta

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Trelmayas said:
Additionally, most people don't want to deal with the hassle of getting games to work on the PC. Call me what you want, I just don't have the time or patience to troubleshoot when a game doesn't work on my PC. I've gone through that in the past when I had a gaming rig, and don't feel like it anymore. I like that when I buy a game for my Xbox, I put it in, and it runs. I'm not alone in this sentiment, and that's why consoles will always have a place.
Last game that failed to work for me out of the box was Fallout 3, and that's Bethesda so I imagine a far few people on consoles had problems as well. Thankfully it only required to edit one text file. Before that, Worms Armageddon, which can be excused since it's over twelve years old and not available on any modern console. Ultimately, the vast, vast majority of PC games these days just work.
 

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dont understand why people think they need a lot of money for super PC's, i got mine for around 1500$ in 2007, including all the components and games, and haven't needed to change anything besides the fan once.
 

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TheRightToArmBears said:
The thing is, not that many people have super-powered latest tech PCs. You could make a game for such crazy-ass PCs but it wouldn't sell too well.
I thought that Crysis sell a million copies? Thats pretty good for a game few people would be able to play.
 

lacktheknack

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BloodSquirrel said:
lacktheknack said:
That's "dissecting". Your argument is invalid.
(I can play this game...)
Nope- you actually have to have better Grammar. You made a mistake in the very sentence you were trying to call me out with, which is an instant loss. You've also just used an ellipses improperly.
To my knowledge, the Spelling Gestapo was a subset of the Grammar Nazis. And how does one use ellipWHAT THE HELL AM I SAYING!?
 

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lacktheknack said:
lostzombies.com said:
Delusibeta said:
Yeah, we know. [http://www.gametrailers.com/video/unreal-overview-unreal-engine/707835]

Ultimately, PC gaming won't ever be as big as console gaming, but console gaming's reliance on motion controls will probably make PC gaming bigger.
Wait............console gaming has a reliance on motion controls?
If it wasn't heading that direction, Sony and Microsoft wouldn't have bothered with Move and Kinect.
that's not the issue at all, motion control is purely a cash cow that they have decided can prolong the time until a new generation is needed.

IE we can get more money out of these system until we need to spend money on R&D

This whole motion control era is just the console version of Hollywood's "NEW IMPROVED DIRECTORS CUT EDITION!" of old films before then have to start making something else