He happens to be more or less correct... Grammar Nazis are typically drowned in the sludgepool that is the internet. I'm sure that your side must be happy to have the floods and floods of idiot "Consoles or Death" fanboys on it.BloodSquirrel said:
Crytek: PCs Are a Generation Ahead of Consoles
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Mmkay, if you can't recognize that you're trolling at this point, go sit in a corner and re-evaluate your life. And if you do recognize it, go sit in a corner and re-evaluate your life.BloodSquirrel said:
I have an original Doom floppy disk in its case unopened, and it reads exactly: "Doom includes 9 levels of the most incredible 3D action and superb graphics you will ever experience!". I hate it when people say old games were never about graphics, it's far from the case.jords said:
Edit: & Put it this way, One of my computer's GPUs is around twice as powerful as the graphics chip in an Xbox360... and I have 4 of them.
Crytec is a generation ahead of the average computer computer... maybe 2. If my PC can't run your game I don't care how nice ti looks, I'm not buying it. I'm not paying 2 thousand dollars to get a new PC to buy your game, dummy.
Not to mention that all your doing is making games prettier. That's actually fairly low on the list of things that games good. Other aspects and items are far more important.
Not to mention that all your doing is making games prettier. That's actually fairly low on the list of things that games good. Other aspects and items are far more important.
I've never been quite sure why people so fired up over the pc vs console debate. A console is a pc. Its a modified, customized, standardized computer with a custom os and a simplified interface. The advantage of a console is that its easier to develop for and a bit more secure against piracy (and apparently used game sales now..sigh). Also, consoles keep accidentally making peripherals that scientists and doctors find useful.
Disadvantage, the digital territory on your console is controlled by someone else, not you, and they don't want you fiddling with it, even if you are a doctor or a scientist.
Personally, I prefer the pc over the console and it has nothing to do with performance. Half the fun of gaming for me is the interesting mods, the custom maps, the custom models, custom sounds...etc, etc, etc.
What keeps the pc out of the limelight? Companies see a more profitable market in something they can control and they have the cash to tilt things in their favor.
Disadvantage, the digital territory on your console is controlled by someone else, not you, and they don't want you fiddling with it, even if you are a doctor or a scientist.
Personally, I prefer the pc over the console and it has nothing to do with performance. Half the fun of gaming for me is the interesting mods, the custom maps, the custom models, custom sounds...etc, etc, etc.
What keeps the pc out of the limelight? Companies see a more profitable market in something they can control and they have the cash to tilt things in their favor.
I do find it more convenient to play on console, so, I kinda hope you are correct but I will write one thing: for the first time in my life, I am doing something I have never done before: hooking up to my 55" LED a $600 PC with surround sound, bluray player, a TB drive and about 6 times the power of either my 360 or PS3 (to use mostly as a media PC, watch HBO as well as Netflix) but I threw in a ATI 5670 in there and will see how well games run for the fun of it. I finished buying parts today and have to put the thing together this weekend. Once I buy a $50 Xbox360 wireless controller for PC, it'll be interesting to see if I note a difference in gaming.BloodSquirrel said:
£5k? D: What the fuck man? Hahah, my gaming PC will run pretty much everything at max res, 4-6x AA, etc etc and I spent just under £600.Simalacrum said:I guess the rather long console cycle has also let PC's go even further ahead graphically - since console cycles were shorter before, I guess they might have been able to 'catch up' (so to speak) with PC's more frequently in the past... Though, I hastened to point out this is an amateur speaking who has only really been following the gaming industry since this generation of consoles
Still, I remain a console player at heart (even though my PS3 is far away at home and I have no TV at uni... *sniff*) - I honestly don't have £5000 or however much to invest in a big gaming powerhouse of a PC, and my little 13" MacBook Pro can't really compete against my PS3 graphically speaking
Also, graphics aren't everything Crytek! In many cases high-end graphics themselves can hold back games too - just look at Minecraft!
I'm going to be honest here, if Crytek are hampered in creativity terms because of the hardware/graphical limitations of the console systems... then I fear for the innovation department in Crytek =\
Worth looking into when your next loan payment's in! And how much was the macbook? D:
Except PC gaming isn't just visuals. Better controls, user made content instead of DLC bullshit, larger and more DIVERSE (anyone up for Generic shooter #17?) library etc.
And the fact is you probably paid 2 to 3 times as much for your console/TV combination as you would for a decent PC. But wait, you were going to get the TV anyway? Well everyone has a PC now as well, so why not add the few hundred you would spend on a console to building a decent PC? You're also going to end up paying extra for more expensive games, DLC, and a next generation of consoles.
And the fact is you probably paid 2 to 3 times as much for your console/TV combination as you would for a decent PC. But wait, you were going to get the TV anyway? Well everyone has a PC now as well, so why not add the few hundred you would spend on a console to building a decent PC? You're also going to end up paying extra for more expensive games, DLC, and a next generation of consoles.
Oh yeah. Crytek's right. Thanks to the PS3's graphical limitations, I just can't enjoy games. I say we need less gameplay and more graphical output. As graphics are the only thing that matters. (sarcasam detector explodes)
lol, PC gaming. Yea, your hardware has the potential to be better, but the money you spend on it could buy you 15 of each current-gen consoles.
Controls ass-backward as fuck. You have a keyboard and a mouse. Those are meant for typing and clicking.
With the software PC's get, it might as well be the original Xbox. Hey-o!
Controls ass-backward as fuck. You have a keyboard and a mouse. Those are meant for typing and clicking.
With the software PC's get, it might as well be the original Xbox. Hey-o!
Alucard832 said:
I think Crysis wants a word with you
Besides controllers work just fine, choice is always better than no choice
I don't really think the PC gaming market would die just because consoles could use a mouse and keyboard. One of the biggest things with PC gaming is the ability to add mods to a game. I think if console games were given that ability that might hurt the PC gaming market. I am not talking about the DLC that the developers make but the mods that people come up with.
"a decent gaming PC"
Yeah, I'll get right on that. And then, a year from now I'll invest another couple hundred. ANd the year after that, and the year after that...
Honestly, I prefer PC gaming (gotta love mods, and having a mouse and ~100 buttons), but you can't deny that not having to upgrade is a mark in console's favor. Considering the types of things you can do with the current gen, I doubt that PC's are being held back that much.
Yeah, I'll get right on that. And then, a year from now I'll invest another couple hundred. ANd the year after that, and the year after that...
Honestly, I prefer PC gaming (gotta love mods, and having a mouse and ~100 buttons), but you can't deny that not having to upgrade is a mark in console's favor. Considering the types of things you can do with the current gen, I doubt that PC's are being held back that much.
http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/1286442355tCXafRvsMc_2_5_l.gifKrantos said:
5760x1200 is 6.9 megapixels, the standard of 1280x720 for consoles is 0.9 megapixels
(which many games including Black ops, Alan wake even Halo: Reach failed to reach at 1152x720)
Those are not even the most powerfull graphics cards available 5760x1200 is 3 seperate 1920x1200 displays running off a single computer.
The cheapest set of graphics cards is the red line Sli GTX 460 that is about £280 which will drop in price way before the next round of consoles appear.
http://www.hardocp.com/images/articles/12788968667K0gVsvzTK_4_2.gif
but even a single GTX 460 for £140 is complete overkill if you more than halved the resolution and knocked 14xAA Sample rate off to give 1280x720 2xAA.
The power of the modern desktop PC is massivly underused on cross platform and ported games.
Damn StraightImprovizoR said:
There is no difference in storytelling between the two platforms, but pcs easily overpower consoles and pcs have for options and maneuverability for game play. There isn't anything a console can do that a pc can't, however there are a lot of things a console can't do that a pc can (multitasking). If you want you can even hook a controller to your pc.
I bought My PC in summer 2008 for about $1300 (USD). That includes; monitor, powerful speakers, gaming mouse, mic, power strip, keyboard, and computer. I can still play any game (except possibly crysis) on full graphics settings, and even have programs in the background.
also by the time I have to replace my PC, console gamers will have spent more on their consoles than I will on a new PC that will kick twice as much but as my current one, especially if they are on two or three consoles. (more than my current too).
*edit* custom build every time.