Crytek: PCs Are a Generation Ahead of Consoles
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ok Alucard.Alucard832 said:
I could get 3 current gen consoles for the price of my pc.
also I grew up with both controller and mouse/keyboard controls. Neither are "ass backwards" as you so eloquently put it. The mouse/keyboard are however more complicated to use as controls to someone just coming into it. This does however allow them to do so much more.
The software on the PC also allows for more than the consoles.
*edit* how do you quote more than one person in one post?
true, but to be fair, Crysis didn't NEED a super computer to run it, i was running it on the computer i now use as a door stop. granted it ran shit on lowest graphics, it still ran. and their company is small enough to not have to worry about paying a million employees, only 580 in total.Ravek said:
Using the keyboard and mouse for gaming is not all that difficult. I was never really a big PC gamer until a couple of years ago but I was able to adapt to the controls of the keyboard and mouse quite easily. I don't understand why some Console gamers and some PC gamers have to insult one another. In the end we are all gamers. We should not be fighting amongst ourselves just because we prefer to play games on different machines.Alucard832 said:
Key words here: "You just need to invest in a decent gaming PC."
In any technological melting pot, you would inevitably have what the PC represents here: something which you spend more money to customize and build yourself, making it work better and more efficiently for your purposes.
On the other end of the spectrum, you have the console platforms, which have a flat cost (which goes DOWN over a generation rather than up, in addition to the platform itself improving via updates and patches) and which developers agree to limit themselves to in exchange for accessibility (for the players) and a more available player base (for the developers).
And graphics hardly ever mean shit-all--and when they do, they'll cease to in six months. Crysis was a piece of shit. Six months later, it was more of a piece of shit. I'm not saying PC gaming isn't as good, or indeed that there haven't a great deal of envelope-pushing PC gaming accomplishments just in the last year, but let's not muddy the argument and blame it on the consumers, who, if you want to look at it that way, are only maximizing their investment.
And in the case of Yerli, I'd blame it more on my lead designer's inability to create a compelling game without requiring that my players first spend several hundred dollars and sacrifice a goat.
In any technological melting pot, you would inevitably have what the PC represents here: something which you spend more money to customize and build yourself, making it work better and more efficiently for your purposes.
On the other end of the spectrum, you have the console platforms, which have a flat cost (which goes DOWN over a generation rather than up, in addition to the platform itself improving via updates and patches) and which developers agree to limit themselves to in exchange for accessibility (for the players) and a more available player base (for the developers).
And graphics hardly ever mean shit-all--and when they do, they'll cease to in six months. Crysis was a piece of shit. Six months later, it was more of a piece of shit. I'm not saying PC gaming isn't as good, or indeed that there haven't a great deal of envelope-pushing PC gaming accomplishments just in the last year, but let's not muddy the argument and blame it on the consumers, who, if you want to look at it that way, are only maximizing their investment.
And in the case of Yerli, I'd blame it more on my lead designer's inability to create a compelling game without requiring that my players first spend several hundred dollars and sacrifice a goat.
Even a mid-range gaming rig is more powerful than current consoles. There's no need to purchase or assemble a $1000+ gaming rig to play the current slew of PC titles with outstanding performance. The arguement that it costs more to maintain a PC is absolute BS. Once one has purchased a decent platform, updating major hardware every few years isn't all that expensive - about on par with how much new consoles run when they're released. Not to mention, the cost of PC game titles drops quickly after the first month or two, we don't have to purchase at the $60+ per title that holds on for a year or better for console titles.
But, the general misconception is that PC gaming is more expensive, and that it's easier to fire up a console for a quick gaming session. Until such myths are stamped hard in the ground and beaten with a length of PVC pipe - it won't ever rest, and new gamers fresh to the console market will pick up on them quickly without ever having tried "the dark side."
But, the general misconception is that PC gaming is more expensive, and that it's easier to fire up a console for a quick gaming session. Until such myths are stamped hard in the ground and beaten with a length of PVC pipe - it won't ever rest, and new gamers fresh to the console market will pick up on them quickly without ever having tried "the dark side."
It's not a myth, it's fact. PC gaming requires knowledge of computer hardware, time to custom build and maintain a gaming computer, installs, troubleshooting, and regular hardware upgrades. I was a PC gamer for several years, but I don't have the time anymore.imperialreign said:
PC gaming does have it's advantages, but if you can't honestly see the advantage consoles might have for some people, you're a fanboy.
Sorry, I should have explained what I meant a little better. Yes, PC's are getting lightyears ahead of consoles graphically, but that's only a very small portion of what makes a game. Additionally, graphics on the consoles already take so long (which means they use a lot of $) to make that they're keeping developers from spending time on other things. So, even though PCs definitely can produce tons better graphics, I don't really consider that to be a very big deal.jamesworkshop said:
The other problem with PC is that it's so danged expensive. Sure, things are getting cheaper, but I've already dumped about $500 into my current computer and it can barely play low end 360 games (because of my processor, unfortunately). That doesn't prevent me from enjoying the games I play, however. In fact I generally spend about 3X as much time on the PC as I do anything else (and I don't even play MMO's). I just don't see graphics as the be all, end all of gaming.
What hardware are you running because my PC is pretty much low end kit now and absolutly kills gamesKrantos said:
Meh you can build a 500-600$ PC that can keep up with the 360 or PS3 for at least 4 more years.
The trouble is at the core of the amtter is PC gamers are 10 generations ahead of console gamers as its hard to sell cheap uninspired wank to PC gamers easily(and yes I am calling out you Fallout "I'mashooter" 3 and Bio"retarted"shock) So why even bother making stuff for the PC its not configured for customizing the keyboard or mouse and worse yet its a port me down with no work done to optimize it for PC.
Sucks to be a Gamer that likes PC controls and qaulity these days its all shiny bright bloom and explosions to keep the drooling other half happy with crap....
ALso most PC devs have stopped making new gaming rig centered games as its cheaper to make it for the console.. not to mention dumbing it down so much saves alot on the budget and bug testing....
The trouble is at the core of the amtter is PC gamers are 10 generations ahead of console gamers as its hard to sell cheap uninspired wank to PC gamers easily(and yes I am calling out you Fallout "I'mashooter" 3 and Bio"retarted"shock) So why even bother making stuff for the PC its not configured for customizing the keyboard or mouse and worse yet its a port me down with no work done to optimize it for PC.
Sucks to be a Gamer that likes PC controls and qaulity these days its all shiny bright bloom and explosions to keep the drooling other half happy with crap....
ALso most PC devs have stopped making new gaming rig centered games as its cheaper to make it for the console.. not to mention dumbing it down so much saves alot on the budget and bug testing....
I don't necessarily disagree with anything you're saying - but one doesn't need to upgrade their hardware as often as people like to make out. It's not like how PC gaming was 10 years ago, whereit wasn't uncommon for a new range of titles to come out that you absolutely had to upgrade your 6 month old hardware to play. You could right now fire up a gaming rig with a 775 dual-core and a HD3870 nad have decent enough performance. The only big drawback is how large of a resolution you want to run.Trelmayas said:
But, really, the problem being is the general users lack of knowledge of the PC in general. There are too many people that don't want to do their research, or simply don't care. They want things to work right straight out of the box. I don't blame them at all in this respect. But OEMs have been taking advantage of that for years now - using older hardware, cheap, poor-quality hardware, under-rated equipment . . . then they sell that off to the consumer at cheap prices, while throwing a ton of numbers at them to confuse them into thinking it's a good deal. That's, IMHO, where a lot of the "expensive," and "constantly breaking or having to upgrade" thinking has come from, and it's true - users who purchase OEM systems generally have to upgrade or replace failed components more often.