Dark Knight Rises Shooting Leaves 12 Dead

[FamoFunk]

Really sad news. You'd think you'd be safe going to a fucking cinema of all places without nut jobs like him there

 

[Extragorey]

*waits for the 'those people' to start preaching 'this is why we need to ban guns' crap*

This is why we need to ban guns...
People fight each other one way or another. With guns involved, there's simply a bigger mess.

 

[UNHchabo]

*waits for the 'those people' to start preaching 'this is why we need to ban guns' crap*

It's purile and juvenile responses like this that allowed this, Columbine, Virginia Tech and every other massacre to happen in the first place.

No. STOP. Both of you.

This is not the time or place to debate politics. Go start your own thread.

I hope for a full recovery from all currently in the hospital. I feel for the families of those involved.

 

[GoddyofAus]

Queue all the conservative Americans who'll claim that this attack is in no way a just cause for tighter gun control. Rather the opposite. After all, if everyone had guns you'd have less shootings wouldn't you?

It's times like these I'm extremely pleased to live in Australia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_%28Australia%29

Yeah.

It's ironic you brought that up, because following that massacre, the Government at the time introduced tough new gun laws, and there hasn't been a massacre of its size in Australia since.

Thanks for proving our point for us.

 

[GoddyofAus]

*waits for the 'those people' to start preaching 'this is why we need to ban guns' crap*

It's purile and juvenile responses like this that allowed this, Columbine, Virginia Tech and every other massacre to happen in the first place.

No. STOP. Both of you.

This is not the time or place to debate politics. Go start your own thread.

I hope for a full recovery from all currently in the hospital. I feel for the families of those involved.

No of course not, it's never the time that's the problem. It's much easier for those with the agenda to sweep the issue under the rug under the guise of "prudence for the victims", but I tell you what; the moment those same victims move from grief to anger, you will be hearing a lot more of it.

 

[the doom cannon]

And this is one reason I advocate for the death penalty. I for one don't want my tax dollars to fund a mass murderer's life. As for gun control stuffs, I am always an advocate for less stringent regulation on firearms. However, I do understand that guns don't solve the world's problems. Take this shooting incident from a while back. Supposedly 200 officers and SWAT responded on this incident, and they still had 11 casualties. Moral of the story: don't cut police budget http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

 

[UNHchabo]

No of course not, it's never the time that's the problem. It's much easier for those with the agenda to sweep the issue under the rug under the guise of "prudence for the victims", but I tell you what; the moment those same victims move from grief to anger, you will be hearing a lot more of it.

Fine. Maybe this is a good time to discuss it. Regardless, THIS THREAD is not the place. Some of us are looking for a factual account of what happened, because it happened less than 12 hours ago.

 

[sideshow]

This story offends me dearly. Not just as a sane human (that's already a given no doubt), no no. This also offends me as an avid cinema goer, Batman fan and as someone who likes socials. It's sad that all these went out because they wanted a good time with friends and/or family with a common interest and excitement... ruined and then some.

true, true. bad enough Heath Ledger died after the previous one now this. make me sick

 

[DancePuppets]

It's childish to think that 'banning all the guns' will stop criminals, or prevent massacres.

Seems to work pretty well over here in the UK. Although disarming everyone in the USA would be a nigh-impossible task now unfortunately.

 

[DancePuppets]

And this is one reason I advocate for the death penalty.

I will admit that this sort of thing is one of the reasons I'm against the death penalty. To do this there is clearly something psychologically wrong with the man and I'd rather not punish him because of some faulty wiring in his brain. I accept that he possibly won't fall under "has difficulty functioning" type of insane, but there is something up with the way he thinks. I just think he should be locked up away from everyone else to prevent it happening again and, if at all possible, treated.

 

[Terminate421]

I read about this but am also a bit unsurprised, growing up I wondered why these people never attacked crowded events. My heart goes out to the victims but i felt a bit prepared for this kind of thing.

 

[tehweave]

Is this how bad marketing has gotten nowadays? That people can actually confuse a masked gunman killing others for a promotional event of said movie?

I blame EA.

That was partially a joke.

 

[FEichinger]

Well ... Apparently Jessica Redfield, who witnessed the Eaton Centre shooting seven weeks ago, is among the casualties in Aurora ...

 

[Verkula]

The casualties included a four-month old baby who was released after being treated.

Who brings a four month-old baby to a midnight premiere of an action movie?

Probably the same kind who brought a baby to a sci-fi somewhathorror when I visited a theater in Manhattan.

 

[Ranorak]

It's almost ironic to shoot people in a theatre during a Batman movie.

Sick, twisted and simply disgusting, but ironic.

 

[Duckman]

To everyone demanding gun control: Fuck off
To everyone demanding everyone be armed: Fuck off

Now that I got that out of the way, I have to question how this is being handled. I know it's a young story still, and the details are scrambled at best. My problem is that with so little information, this is easily the most popular story I've seen all day. And for all the wrong reasons...

Using an event like this to push a particular agenda is disgusting to me, and anyone trying to do so should be wildly ashamed of themselves. But what do I know? I'm just from the internet.

 

[C2Ultima]

This is kind of harrowing for me living in Colorado. I was at a midnight showing of the movie 15 miles away from this incident. Absolutely horrible.

 

[Ignatz_Zwakh]

Fuck. That all I can really say. Fuck that some bastard decided "Hey, I'm going to waltz into some place where people are enjoying themselves and fucking CAP them! Why? I don't fucking know why, maybe because I'm miserable and THEY should be!"

Ah bollocks.

 

[Chatboy 91]

Why am I not surprised that this devolved into a gun control debate in less than a page? Just going to say this: No amount of gun control law is going to stop criminals from acquiring and using firearms for illegitimate purposes. You're only making it more difficult for the normal citizen trying to get a firearm for legal purposes.

 

[MrFalconfly]

Boom.

Godwin's Law has once again been met.

Also I don't think that it's as much Gun Control to keep guns out of the hands of crooks but more to make it easier to lock them up (for possessing illegal firearms).

It is also true that in a "open" society it is impossible to prohibit things, it just creates a black market and encourages more crime. study the war on drugs for a text book case of trying to ban things in an open border nation.

Besides we need guns to overthrow our government , our forefathers said so because you know they kicked out an oppressive government that was overtaxing them, restricting their right to arm themselves, and telling them who and where they could meet and what they could talk about etc.

Plus i do not want to even bring up how every dictator pretty much disarmed his people before he took power, and the ego on some of our politicians and the idea of one of them getitng ideas of bigger better things is not out of the question.

I do not think anyone that is pro guns, is arguing that mentally insane people should be armed at all, but we have gun laws in place to regulate things like felons getting guns, mentally ill getting guns, and bottom line on top of that if someone really wants a gun there is a way to get one reguardless.

banning them would simply make them more expensive, and make them very attractive to organized crime, unless someone seriously wants to try and convince me we can shut down every square inch of our border, then you have to convince me the politicians would even do it because some of them like those illegals voting and paying taxes and etc.

Well there we have the completely different issue of our respective countries (and their following history and culture). I mean I live in Denmark and I have a sneaking suspicion that it is because of the Danish culture that I can only see firearms in the hands of either Police or Military personnel (or crooks, and then there's hunters but they only use hunting rifles like the Model 700 or shotguns with room for two shells).