DC Comics Reboots Lobo's Reboot

[Alar]

Please... please don't make Lobo a skinny pretty-boy. He's a buff, macho, raunchy biker dude. He is not any of that. Give him back his beard and his hog at the very least if you're going to sissify him like that!

Wait a minute...

If you're familiar with Lobo's personality, you might be understandably confused. If you're not familiar, know that "high society" and "moral codes" have never been Lobo's defining traits. According to Harras, however, this will be Lobo's official modus operandi, since the previous character was simply an alien that stole his respected name. DC will debut the new New 52 Lobo in Justice League #23.2, as he hunts his identity thief to prove once and for all who the "real" Lobo is.

...what? WHAT? This is the 'real' Lobo? Then what happened to the other one?! WE WANT COMICS ABOUT THE OTHER ONE, NOT THIS GUY!

Ugh... at least the first 'pretty boy' version they drew had spines on his arms, gnarly hands, and a somewhat more unkempt, hazardous appearance.

 

[RA92]

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure that the animated starfire was nothing like the actual starfire even before the reboot.

To be fair Starfire in the comics has always been a busty alien chick.

There's a huge difference between the original sexually liberated Starfire and the new wish-fulfillment sex object.

I would urge you to give this a read this for a more expanded commentary: http://comicsalliance.com/starfire-catwoman-sex-superheroine/

 

[MrGalactus]

OOOOR they could just develop the character and have him abandon his slaving ways. Sounds like a pretty interesting story arc, actually.
Why does DC have to solve every problem with a nuke these days?

 

[JediMB]

... still not as bad as what they did to Starfire.

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Actually it was the animated Teen Titans that deviated from the original Starfire.

Eh, both Teen Titans and New 52 deviated from the original, as far as I'm aware. New 52 by taking away her hippie-esque personality and replacing it with emotionless sexual availability, whereas Teen Titans did it by turning her into a younger and more relatable character.

But my post, unlike perhaps Raiyan's, mostly referred to how the current incarnations of both Starfire and Lobo display a deviation from the norm for the latter, but more or less a strict adherence to the norm for the former. NewLobo seems to be more of a sexualized pretty-boy than most male characters, whereas Starfire's sexualization doesn't make her particularly stand out from the rest of the industry's female characters.

So for female characters, it's Tuesday.

 

[MrGalactus]

... still not as bad as what they did to Starfire.

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Actually it was the animated Teen Titans that deviated from the original Starfire.

Eh, both Teen Titans and New 52 deviated from the original, as far as I'm aware. New 52 by taking away her hippie-esque personality and replacing it with emotionless sexual availability, whereas Teen Titans did it by turning her into a younger and more relatable character.

Mmmmm, nah, she's always been an emotionally detached psycho. She likes to use her powers to kill people she hates in ways as brutal as possible. It's her thing, so they really haven't changed her at all. Being a murderous vigilante means she fits into Red Hood and the Outlaws pretty perfectly without changing her much.

 

[Vausch]

So since the reboot:

Batman's timeline has been skewed to the point where he couldn't possibly have had all the Robins he's taken in

The former Teen Titan teams were erased from existence

Captain Marvel has become Shazam and Billy Batson went from being a pinnacle of innocence and good natured childhood to a bratty little twat

Blue Beetle got gorey and threw out light hearted fun and the unique plans of the Reach from being slowly conquering invaders to "Big armies wreck sh*t up"

Starfire went from an emotion based superpowered badass in a skimpy outfit to a nymphomaniac

Stephanie Brown was erased from existence and banned from being used

Artemis was introduced in Teen Titans and killed in the same issue

Everyone wears armour (Seriously, why?)

Wally West is no longer there

Rob Liefeld was put on 4 (or more) books

And now Lobo looks like he's gone emo and skinny.

IS this the Dark Age all over again?

 

[UniversalRonin]

Also... really? Infiltrate High Society? Fly a space ship? The Main Man doesn't need that. If he's going to "Infiltrate" high society, he's going right through the front door, and everyone in front of it. If he's going through outer space, Space gives him Oxygen to thank him for gifting it with his and his space chopper's presence.

This exactly.

Lobo doesn't need to look like some punk twilight fodder. He just needs a big mullet, a big mouth, and arms that dwarf both of them. And a space bike.

No Captcha, I'm not rewarding you for encouraging poor people to lose their already raided finances. (betfair comes up for the next 5 refreshes, then one of the moving ones where you just enter the phrase does.) That's better. Pillocks.

 

[chozo_hybrid]

I'm still catching up on a good chunk of comics before the reboot, the more I hear, the less I want to read on to the New 52...

I love Lobo, his appearance in 52 was awesome, that whole series was awesome. But this? He looks more like a sissy boy, the Lobo I know would laugh in his face and put his cigar out on his nose.

 

[Ayay]

So when did Lobo join the cast of Final Fantasy 13 ? . Dont know what that twilight thing is but its no Lobo. To be fair i was not crazy about the style of the original, it was to sloppy for me , but this thing is just bad.

 

[Fanghawk]

Hang on, hang on, hang on...

I'm pretty sure one of my buddies linked me to the twitter of some woman who worked at DC. These were all theoretical designs that ultimately didn't make the cut she said.
The one that did was "Uglier" and...something else, can't remember now. I think it was "meaner" or something along those lines. The gist was, he was "more Lobo".

My source might of been bs, but you may wanna at least have a look for that and update the article before someone here gives up comics forever!


(Yeah, the concept art is terrible though. Sterile, is the first word that comes to mind.)

Edit: Found it.

In the source article (dated for last Friday), DC's Bob Harras names that specific design as the one editorial wanted. Perhaps there have been changes from there to the finished issue, but this is still the concept image DC is standing behind, at least for now.

 

[Milanezi]

Not to be a downer or anything...but that looks like pretty much exactly the opposite of what DC fans were hoping for.

I didn't like the reboot and, as you said, for someone who's trying to fix things, this new Lobo doesn't seem to be the case...

The original Lobo was a Hells Angels in space, and like the club members of Hells Angels, he was an anti hero, sometimes you'd hate his attitude, but mostly you'd be kinda "well, he DOES have a point" (like the hilarious edition where he creates a religion of his own due to the huge income it brings lol). He was a guy who'd be welcomed by fans with open arms whenever he showed up, as a vicious villain or as bad-mouthed antihero.
NOW... well, looks like they're making a harder version of Han Solo (which is cool, but it's not LOBO) with some CHARM and GOOD LOOKS (really not Lobo).

Lobo's looks always reminded me of Rob Zombie and Danny Trejo, now he reminds me of a very very angry Black Metal teenage band member?

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

HEY!! Don't knock Morbius he was cool a shame the whole dark line of marvel comics came to a crappy end and half of them would up in Doc Strange's vault. >>

I wouldn't knock ol' Michael, but the new Lobo design looks a LOT more like Morbius than it does the main man, at least to my eyes.

I guess but I would not use that design for anyone 0-o

 

[Kilroy17]

Maybe DC is just leading us on and just like the original Lobo was a parody of 90's comic characters, reboot Lobo is going to be a parody of the dark and brooding trend?

Probably not, but hey, one can hope.

That's actually quite a clever comment. It arguably 'fits' with the character to continue being a parody of the current trends as that is why he was created.

OP: I've never really been a big Lobo fan myself, I've never really enjoyed that biker, proudly crude thing he's had but I will admit he is at least an original character in the DCU so creating this new darker colder version of him I feel I may enjoy, but as someone has already said if they are going to change the character so much it is no longer a reboot really and they should just make a new character altogether. However overall I'm looking forward to seeing the new Lobo in the comics and I'm also ok with change provided this is were the writers passion lies and it is not some sort of cash grab. In other words I don't really mind if they change things a lot just as long as the writers are doing the story/character that they really want to as that is how I believe good comics are made.

EDIT: One other thing though is that the new version is yet another good looking character, now I'm not saying that's bad but in these comic book universes an ugly at least adds some variety.

 

[Mr. Q]

At times like this, I think back to the Robot Chicken Christmas Special where Santa Claus went postal on the heads of Coca Cola...


Then I picture myself as Santa, the victims as the head monkeys at DC Comics, and the head of Britney Spears as Rob Liefeld's head. And suddenly, I feel much better.

 

[Scarim Coral]

Wait? That main image is the reboot Lobo? That image is far too young and not gruff (in saying so the first two made him look like Kartos and too melee looking) to my liking. Heck he doesn't look like a badass as he was at all!

 

[Drakmorg]

"...altering his image to be physically attractive and mysteriously brooding..."

And here's the exact words where I lost absolutely all interest. Didn't even bother paying attention to the rest of the article.

 

[Kittyhawk]

Reboots are always a feather ruffler, especially for comic/game fans. The funny thing is that DC are going about the folly of pushing characters, when story should be king. This is also why they are finding it hard to sell Wonder Woman. Would I read Lobo? No, because I don't limit my story consuming scope to just over-entrenched super hero/villain comics. I prefer new more interest comics works many by pass.

Whatever they do, most fans will never be pleased anyway. I can certainly agree that making new stories and characters would be a better way to go. Why leave it all to Image, IDW, Boom etc? Probably cause that would take some effort.