I mean they really seem to be embracing that view point. As I said above, I feel like they are trying to play up AND play dumb about the fanservice issues to keep themselves on the radar. I know I'm thinking about the game now, which I never would have done otherwise.erttheking said:
Damn straight. The first time I saw the street fighter animated movie was on TBS superstation. My brother and I saw it again a few weeks later on HBO (the uncut version) and neither of us were expecting that shower scene.Fappy said:
Remember when anime characters had bulk? Street Fighter 2: The Animated Movie remembers. Sometimes a little too well (looking at you D.J.), but still, Chun Li at least had some freaking beef on her bones.Fappy said:
And if that works for them, it's fine, but they're gonna get some level of shit if they only thing they have going for them is fan service. The point of the OP is asking why Soul Calibur doesn't get as much shit about fan service as DoA does. That's because Soul Calibur has other stuff going on.CritialGaming said:
Yeah, homogenisation is a huge problem in a lot of recent anime. A lot of the characters are either teenage boys are girls that are super thin. Remember when anime had actual body types for different characters? Sure, there were a lot of muscle-bound ones, but you still had different varieties.Casual Shinji said:
...were they though? Bitching about it left and right, I mean. The actual "game" entries in the series review at the standard 6-7/10 that Japanese fanservice games tend to inhabit.CoCage said:
Both. From content and gameplay. Now, I can deal without the fan-service, but I usually ignore it anyway. When Senran Kagura first launched digitally on eShop for the States, most of the user ratings were in the 4s or 5's out 5. So that says something about the critical dissonance. Not to mention Marvelous found their niche audience outside of Japan who will buy the games. Hell, it's their most successful series, so SK ain't going away any time soon. The series has been critic proof by this point.altnameJag said:
Yeah, it's firmly entrenched in "fans of the series will like it" at this point. Plus being just about the only Musou Fighter outside Koei Tecmo. "It's a competent brawler where you don't have to fight the Yellow Turban Rebellion and has some dodgy fanservice" seems like an accurate descriptor based on what I played. As far as "critical dissonance" goes...let's just say Estival Versus's 10/10 user reviews tend to come in two flavors: "don't listen to the feminist SJW reviewers" and, I quote "I'm not putting it on a pedestal and saying it's genre defining but it definitely doesn't deserve all the ignorant hate it gets from people. It's a humble little brawler, nothing more and nothing less."CoCage said:
Agreed. The games aren't 10/10 (though what game is?). I grew beyond scoring games by the time I turned 20. At this point I tell people buy, wait for a sale, rent, or don't bother when it comes to games. I am glad you enjoy the game.altnameJag said:
It's always been funny to me how male gamers decry female involvement in game design due to the fear that women will be pandered to, thus making games worse off by whatever 'female sensibilities' will be casted to.erttheking said:
DOA has been counting on triggered gamers to empty their wallets to protest "SJWs" for a while now.erttheking said:
That has nothing to do with it. Koei Tecmo has been pumping out massive amounts of DLC at crazy prices for ages now. Look at any number of the DLC available for the Dynasty Warriors games.Something Amyss said:
I freaking called it. And some people (you know who you are) on this forum and a previous DOA6 topic, were worried about slightly less fan service.erttheking said:
erttheking said:
The Earth could be flat too.Something Amyss said:
But the first DOA Volleyball was reviewed somewhat favourably by the GJ crowd. Basically it pays for these fuckwits to pretend like the backlash against their exploitative practices and generally shitty PR is merely somehow just people taking a problem with the aesthetics. They are quite literally taking you for a ride and buying their bullshit that is patently bullshit.Paragon Fury said: