Deadpool will be pansexual in his upcoming movie.

[Erttheking]

So bisexual then. Wait I forgot, you have to pander to tumblr and saying bisexual isn't radical enough these days.

Yeah... I don't get it either. I mean I am bisexual, oe pansexual or whatever the hell they want to call it, and I still can't follow the distinction being made, ever after having it explained repeatedly... >_>

because apparently we needed a distinction between liking men and women, and liking anything human... >_<

Well some people don't really fall into the traditional binary genders, there's intersex people and gender neutral people. I think transexuals fall under the umbrella of pansexual too.

As for you not getting it, well, we live in a time where sexual minorities are only recently being allowed to fully express themselves. The terminology around them is still developing.

Well, let me put it this way, I largely refer to myself as bisexual, yet if you want to get into the way the distinction is being made, I am apparently pansexual.

My question (based admittedly only on my own perspective) Is if pansexual means what I think of as bisexual, then bisexual seems an especially strange concept.

Makes me wonder if bisexuals even exist. (as per the apparent point being made between bi- and pansexual being distinct and seperate concepts, which... To me, intuitively, they are not.)

I think My confusion stems from just not being wrap my head around having two words that to me personally mean the exact same thing, while constantly running into people that insist they are distinct from one another.

It feels like someone trying to explain the difference between the colours violet, and purple, yet even more ambiguous.

I think the overall difference between the two is that Pansexuals like all genders where as biesexuals like two genders and while they can like more they don't necessarily like more. Basically all pansexuals are biesexuals but not all biesexuals are pansexuals.

Like I said, the terminology is still evolving.

 

[Risingblade]

So he likes to fuck bread?

 

[Thaluikhain]

Makes me wonder if bisexuals even exist. (as per the apparent point being made between bi- and pansexual being distinct and seperate concepts, which... To me, intuitively, they are not.)

Eh, "pansexual" is easier to say than "bisexual, but there are more than two genders and not everyone identifies as one".

 

[CrystalShadow]

Makes me wonder if bisexuals even exist. (as per the apparent point being made between bi- and pansexual being distinct and seperate concepts, which... To me, intuitively, they are not.)

Eh, "pansexual" is easier to say than "bisexual, but there are more than two genders and not everyone identifies as one".

Meh. I suppose. Just starting to think that sometimes, just maybe, people are getting to be just a bit too pedantic with fairly minor details...
Or maybe that's just me... XD

 

[Erttheking]

So he likes to fuck bread?

Risingblade, it's Deadpool

Of course he does.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Makes me wonder if bisexuals even exist. (as per the apparent point being made between bi- and pansexual being distinct and seperate concepts, which... To me, intuitively, they are not.)

Eh, "pansexual" is easier to say than "bisexual, but there are more than two genders and not everyone identifies as one".

Meh. I suppose. Just starting to think that sometimes, just maybe, people are getting to be just a bit too pedantic with fairly minor details...
Or maybe that's just me... XD

Well...yes...but then anything can be a minor detail if it only affects people who aren't you (and often that you don't even know). If people think it's an important distinction, it's not like it's hard for me to remember that there is a sexuality with "pan" in it.

 

[CrystalShadow]

Makes me wonder if bisexuals even exist. (as per the apparent point being made between bi- and pansexual being distinct and seperate concepts, which... To me, intuitively, they are not.)

Eh, "pansexual" is easier to say than "bisexual, but there are more than two genders and not everyone identifies as one".

Meh. I suppose. Just starting to think that sometimes, just maybe, people are getting to be just a bit too pedantic with fairly minor details...
Or maybe that's just me... XD

Well...yes...but then anything can be a minor detail if it only affects people who aren't you (and often that you don't even know). If people think it's an important distinction, it's not like it's hard for me to remember that there is a sexuality with "pan" in it.

Yes, and it's also easy for some of these people to assume things like that even when in fact they aren't true...
Being attacked for that gets all the more bemusing when people don't have a clue who they are talking to...
Good way to get them to put their foot right in their mouth...
Assuming you can be bothered to actually mention it that is...


Eh... I am over a lot of this stuff. Even the things that very much do affect me personally, sometimes, the shouting just gets way too loud, and I get fed up of listening to anyone that argues about it, regardless of opinion or 'side' they take...

 

[Something Amyss]

I think My confusion stems from just not being wrap my head around having two words that to me personally mean the exact same thing, while constantly running into people that insist they are distinct from one another.

Well, I mean, the two may be synonymous to you, but there's a large number of bisexuals who aren't interested in trans, nonbinary, or intersex individuals. One of the reasons that "pansexual" exists is specifically to be inclusive to these groups.

Aaaand speaking of....

Well...yes...but then anything can be a minor detail if it only affects people who aren't you (and often that you don't even know). If people think it's an important distinction, it's not like it's hard for me to remember that there is a sexuality with "pan" in it.

Eh. Not only am I one of the groups that is frequently excluded by bisexuals, I am in a relationship with a nonbinary individual that considers themselves pansexual.

...I still don't think it's that big a deal, though I will respect the labels others ascribe to themselves. It's pretty much no effort anyway.

Myself? I very much don't have a problem with trans, nb or IS individuals, but I still think of myself as bisexual. I get the distinction, but I don't really care. You know?

EDIT: for clarity, when I say it doesn't matter to me or I don't care, that doesn't translate to "and it shouldn't matter to you, either/you shouldn't care."

This isn't named at either of you specifically, but there's a tendency to rely on "tokens" in these sorts of discussions. You know, "so and so is X and says Y, so Y is acceptable to X."

 

[9tailedflame]

Yea, that sounds like deadpool. Honestly, it seem a bit weird if he weren't.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Eh... I am over a lot of this stuff. Even the things that very much do affect me personally, sometimes, the shouting just gets way too loud, and I get fed up of listening to anyone that argues about it, regardless of opinion or 'side' they take...

I can certainly understand that.

Eh. Not only am I one of the groups that is frequently excluded by bisexuals, I am in a relationship with a nonbinary individual that considers themselves pansexual.

...I still don't think it's that big a deal, though I will respect the labels others ascribe to themselves. It's pretty much no effort anyway.

Myself? I very much don't have a problem with trans, nb or IS individuals, but I still think of myself as bisexual. I get the distinction, but I don't really care. You know?

EDIT: for clarity, when I say it doesn't matter to me or I don't care, that doesn't translate to "and it shouldn't matter to you, either/you shouldn't care."

This isn't named at either of you specifically, but there's a tendency to rely on "tokens" in these sorts of discussions. You know, "so and so is X and says Y, so Y is acceptable to X."

Oh sure, but, like you say, since it isn't a big deal, I see no reason not to use the label. If it was something substantial, if lots of people were objecting to it (that have any reason to do so, that is, not just the usual reactionary nonsense), that'd be different.

And also on the proviso that nobody expects a "one of the good one cards" for doing it.

Personally, while pansexual might be a technically better term than bisexual, I can't say I find the distinction that important. People deciding that it's a purely fictional sexuality, that nobody should be allowed to use the label, OTOH, there's an issue there, of course.

 

[Risingblade]

So he likes to fuck bread?

Risingblade, it's Deadpool

Of course he does.

I thought his heart belonged to chimichangas ;-;

 

[Panzer Camper]

Since the OT (obviously he was, how is this news) isn't even being discussed I have a serious question everyone.

If you like men and women you are bi.

If you like men, women, men who are women (vagina with man brain), women who are men, and extra you are pan.

What if you like women and men who are women?

This is the sticking point with me on pan referring mostly to the trans stuff. Do straight people that don't find trans people yucky (bi sexuals who aren't pan apparently) have to get a whole new orentation? Or do straight people that do find trans people yucky need the new orentation? What if your attraction depends on pre op or post op? Do we need a brand spanking four new orentations for straight and bi people that like some combination of these things?

 

[kenu12345]

Came in here thinking this would be a pun for a joke that will be made in the movie. Ended up seeing a thread of people arguing over sexuals. I'll just throw in a quick word, I don't care what people identify as whether I believe it or not. I do feel that a couple sexualities out there are unneeded fluff that fits under other sexualities too, but hey if you feel like calling yourself one of those more power to ya. I'll just keep calling myself Bi cause I can like any human as long as they are a cool person

 

[Spider RedNight]

Why is this news? I don't care about the private sexual lives of comic book characters. It doesn't add any dimension or depth to them.

I'm in this boat, probably because the last time something I liked made a big deal about sexuality, that was too much of the character and they wouldn't fucking shut up about it (see. Janey Springs).

They're gonna make jokes, that's fine. I don't care if Deadpool's hetero, pan, demi, trans, or a furry. They're gonna make jokes about it either way.

Also I'm in the same group as the people that say this isn't news: it's Deadpool. *gasp*

 

[Panzer Camper]

This is the sticking point with me on pan referring mostly to the trans stuff. Do straight people that don't find trans people yucky (bi sexuals who aren't pan apparently) have to get a whole new orentation? Or do straight people that do find trans people yucky need the new orentation? What if your attraction depends on pre op or post op? Do we need a brand spanking four new orentations for straight and bi people that like some combination of these things?

Well let me put it this way - do you need to look up a shiela's skirt or down a bloke's zipper to see their junk before you're capable of being attracted to them? If you do, congrats, you're the first person in the world who ever answered that they are indeed attracted to a person's genitalia rather than their gender. If no, then you function like just about every other human being on the planet. Frankly people overthink when it comes to transgender people and genitalia.

Right. Point being people here are saying that is not the case because bi people function some different way and pansexuals are needed to fill the gap.

On a side note. Pansexual makes sense for people with no bits and people with all the bits or wanting to fuck a toaster or what not. I have issue more with the trans thing being forced into the main divide of bi to pan.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

If he starts hitting on a wok, are people gonna cry racism?

 

[CaptainMarvelous]

So... dropping come critical thinking here; how is this going to factor into the movie?

I mean, from the cast list we got D-Piddy, Weasel, Al, usual gang.

Then we have Vanessa/Changeling who's basically Mystique because Liefeld is incapable of original thought, but she fills the role of Wade's girlfriend. So... the Pansexual thing is gonna be tricky to show unless they explicitly have her use her powers to switch.

Rest of the cast seem off limits since its like Killebrew, Francis and Colossus (which, again, ultimate version.)

I think it's a play, the only reason they're pushing it is to attract positive attention in the form of "Inclusive! They have representation!" which is a valid marketing tactic but I wouldn't get super hopeful that it's going to be a particularly good representation of Pan-sexuality. Unless they go with the 'Nessa route which is a possibility, otherwise I sort of doubt his sexuality will be particularly prevalent in the movie.

(... >.> my own opinion that pansexuality is still just bisexuality since trans people are either male or female depending on where they're at in terms of transitions and mental state is not relevant.)

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Unless this is actually going to be important to the plot I don't see why we need to know this.

 

[Lieju]

To add to the bi/pan distinction debate, some people I know who ID as pan or prefer using the term do it because they dislike the 'bi' part and think it reinforces the gender binary.

Which I don't agree with but eh. I generally use the word 'bi' if I'mlabelling characters in my writing for example but it's not like I'm opposed to the term pansexual either.

Lot of people I know who ID as either consider them interchangeable, some do not.

I kinda dislike the definition of 'pan means you're attracted to trans people' though...
Another definition I hear is that bi means you like the genders differently, pan that your attraction is the same, but it's a definition that depends on the particular subculture.

I tend to consider the two things interchangeable at least if the person tells me nothing else. And which a person uses to describe themselves tells more about their background (and age possibly)

 

[Callate]

Most of what I've seen in the comics is Deadpool lusting after women, getting goofy crushes on men for humorous effect, and making inappropriate comments about just about everything.