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Oooh, nice burn! You really got me with that one!DoPo said:
Say what you will about Undertale, but the only reason people voted for it is because it is new. Leave it a year or two, and that poll will be completely different. So no, it is not the best game of all time, not until we see the hype die down.
No, it's not. It's also not been voted as such. And even then, you're the one who somehow things the poll has any weight and hence tries to dismiss it.chocolate pickles said:
If you had, and I paraphrase, "known shit about ass", you'd have noticed nothing like what you claimed happened, actually happened. Things I had pointed out several times in this very thread.
Yes, it literally has. Don't believe me? check out the article: http://www.polygon.com/2015/12/16/10323192/undertale-gamefaqs-best-game-everDoPo said:
Nice fail you got there.
I could. I'm not going to though, purely based on how bad your current arguments are.DoPo said:
And so what if i link to Kotaku? it's a legitimate source that clearly outline my point in it's title alone. It wasn't necessary to link to Gamefaqs.
You linked to Polygon. Nice fail there.chocolate pickles said:
It clearly misrepresent what the contest is - it claims that users were selecting, and I quote "the definitive all-time greatest game". Something that from the sounds of it, you believe actually happened. So, yeah - that's wrong with linking to a completely different websitechocolate pickles said:
If you had, then you'd be linking to something that doesn't actually support anything you said, but something that supports what I've said. And I've, in fact, quoted to that effect.chocolate pickles said:
Oh dear. I gave the wrong name between 2 sites i frequently use at midnight. How will i live with myself.DoPo said:
To humour you, i will link to gamefaqs:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/bge20
hmmm: The title of the contest is 'Best.Game.Ever'. I wonder what that would imply.
Oh look: 'for the 20th anniversary of GameFAQs, we're asking you once again: What is the Best. Game. Ever.?'
'we'll pit 128 of the best games ever created against each other in 1-on-1 battles (up to 4 a day, running simultaneously), and let you, the users of GameFAQs, determine the winner.'
You know what, cheers man. You just gave me even firmer evidence. Thanks for doing my job.
So, what, you're going to omit thinking about both the title and the actual description of what kind of contest this is? Erm, good then. Let me enlighten you:chocolate pickles said:
EDIT: I'll also throw in an extra one for you:DoPo said:
You are now allowed to explain how this is supposed to be "all for realzies guyz".
You know its a little sad really because I kinda feel like I'd enjoy the game but I know virtually nothing about Undertale and I am already absolutely sick to death of hearing about it. To the point where I feel kinda ill at the idea of even trying to play it. The fandom is one of the most obsessive, hyperactive lots I've ever seen and I've seen some pretty hyperactive fandoms.
Feel like I'm missing out on a good game. Maybe in a couple of years when it all dies down. :-\
Feel like I'm missing out on a good game. Maybe in a couple of years when it all dies down. :-\
>When the fan art/head-canon is as good if not better than the original source.
Or, as I like to call it, the Star Wars prequel effect.
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Yeah, I kind of loved the game.
It's the kind of game I WISH would get a bit of a graphical overhaul.
Just not a huge fan of indie games that think 'retro' starts and ends with the Atari.
Or, as I like to call it, the Star Wars prequel effect.
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Yeah, I kind of loved the game.
It's the kind of game I WISH would get a bit of a graphical overhaul.
Just not a huge fan of indie games that think 'retro' starts and ends with the Atari.
YOu know what the greatest game of all time is? The one that never got released that no one ever got to play. Because it doesn't. Fucking. Exist.
In a world of subjectivity these debates are hilarious.
In a world of subjectivity these debates are hilarious.
Absolutely worth it for the ocean of boiled piss that has come from GameFAQs. I mean, I can't really attest to the game's quality because I haven't played it yet, but what it has caused is hilarious.
Honestly it seems a bit odd really to call it the best game of all time as we have not seen if it will stand the test of time as it hasn't really had that much time, it's the newest game from that list with the 2nd newest being fallout 3 I believe.
Really though I don't mind, the game doesn't look like it's for me as the combat looks to be a case of getting their shmup in my RPG (or via versa), but there are plenty of people who do like it and I can see why.
That said it sort of takes the point out of a poll (or what little point there was) when you do rally a new fandom at the peak of it's population to flood the system. It just stinks of "This game is so good I'm going to force everyone to acknowledge this is the best game ever" and when people look back at the Gamefaqs listings in a year or two people aren't gonna say "oh hey look mario 64 got a boost last year" they'll be saying "Oh look that was the year this new game got super popular and flooded the system".
That said, if gamefaqs was really wanting to take it seriously they'd ask for a membership requirement to vote.
TLDR; I think fans did flood the system to get their own victory and some people are super salty about it, but overal it's a pointless joke poll that's been elevated though the fact it's been around a while (just like most game awards these days)
Really though I don't mind, the game doesn't look like it's for me as the combat looks to be a case of getting their shmup in my RPG (or via versa), but there are plenty of people who do like it and I can see why.
That said it sort of takes the point out of a poll (or what little point there was) when you do rally a new fandom at the peak of it's population to flood the system. It just stinks of "This game is so good I'm going to force everyone to acknowledge this is the best game ever" and when people look back at the Gamefaqs listings in a year or two people aren't gonna say "oh hey look mario 64 got a boost last year" they'll be saying "Oh look that was the year this new game got super popular and flooded the system".
That said, if gamefaqs was really wanting to take it seriously they'd ask for a membership requirement to vote.
TLDR; I think fans did flood the system to get their own victory and some people are super salty about it, but overal it's a pointless joke poll that's been elevated though the fact it's been around a while (just like most game awards these days)
Of all time? Really? I mean, I didn't care for Earthbound myself, and I don't hate Undertale, it's certainly good... but it's not the Second Coming of RPGs that everyone makes it out to be. It's a clever idea, and the characters are well-written, but when I finished it, I was a bit disappointed. Of course the characters are all well-written; they're all insanely simplistic.
Good game, maybe even a great game with clever ideas, but Greatest Game of All Time? No. I will firmly disagree with that.
Good game, maybe even a great game with clever ideas, but Greatest Game of All Time? No. I will firmly disagree with that.
I'm not crapping on anything. I was basically just saying it should stand the test of time before you start considering it in a poll for best of all time. If anything, I would say that Gamefaqs was in error putting the game in the running in the first place.shintakie10 said:Looking at it from where we are now, I'd have to say that OoT isn't even in the top 5 best LoZ games anymore. Heck, maybe even top 7 dependin on how you want to count those double games like Oracle of Seasons, or the remakes of older games.FoolKiller said:Yes. A Link to the Past would be the correct one... followed by Majora's MaskMarsAtlas said:
Also, to be best of all time you would need to be past five or ten years. Then if people still love it (even through rose-tinted diapers) you could make an argument for it.
Also, you should have won a lot of Game of the Year awards first before going for best all-time.
Twilight Princess was a much better version of OoT anyway, with clearer characters that actually had character and far more impressive visuals (not specifically graphics, but aesthetic too). Windwaker had exceptional characters and and amazing overworld that puts every other LoZ game to shame. Majoras Mask had the absolute best world building of any LoZ game, period, with the best story of any LoZ game.
Anyway though, its a for funsies poll that way too many people took way too seriously.
Yall can crap on Undertale fans all you want about how they're rude, bad, blah blah whatever. Doesn't matter because every other fandom is just as bad. Go to the FFVII boards and say that you think the game wasn't nearly as good as *insert any other FF game here*. You will get flamed terribly hard. They'll wish death in excruciating ways upon you, you'll probably get lots of gross usages of the word rape. Same with the OoT fans.
Are we really goin to judge the entirety of a fandom on the vocal douchebags that are a part of it? Seriously ask yourselves if you want to go down this route because I will gladly go down that route and denounce any number of things that people care about because douchebags are gonna douche in that fandom.
Also, I don't judge fans because I also have my own idiosyncracies which make me seem crazy.
Yeah, I don't particularly get what the fuss is about either. I liked Undertale, but if, say Batman: Arkham Knight had won the same poll, I'd care just as much, as in: very little.sonicneedslovetoo said:
Something about accepting that people like different things and all that. I'm not particularly hyped for Episode 7(I'll see it when the queues die down a bit), but I'm not gonna piss on people who are because they happen to like something more then I do.