Democrats already proposing austerity before DNC even ends
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I think everyone already knows who they are. Who they are does not mean they are wrong about what they say about Trump though. People can disagree on policies and routes to get there, but still all agree that the jackass making an ass of himself at the bar needs to be thrown to the curb.
When I was bartending in college in the Texas Capital, where we had an extremely diverse group all sitting at the same bar all arguing about politics and disagreeing on just about everything under the sun, they would STILL all band together to help toss a jack ass when needed. This is pretty much the same thing. Austin Texas is progressive, at the same time we have a shit ton of conservatives and moderates here as well. People regularly debating politics at the pub is the norm.. but then there is always this one guy, one guy that gets under everyone's skin regardless of where you come from, what you represent and what you believe and at that point all other disagreements are tossed aside and everyone joins to toss the guy out even if it is the doorman's day off. Trump is THAT guy. Just like they all band together to toss the pedophile, the braggart, the racist, they also band together to toss the " pussy grabber"... although in Trumps case it may actually be worse, he may be all of those things and so much worse the way he talked about his own daughter...
You do when people are so irrationally scornful of Trump, ghostwritten "tell-all" books from the biggest grifters and criminals in his administration top best-seller lists.
An argument that sums up as "bawdy comedy is more like bawdy comedy than serious drama" is not exactly the incisive perspicacity we could have dreamed of.
Maybe because they're the ones who haven't spent as long watching slacker comedies, so haven't been lulled into a false sense of confidence that doing nothing somehow turns out fine.
" Irrationally" please elaborate. At this point it is actually irrational to NOT be scornful of Trump. Trump is responsible for 180,000 dead Americans right now. Trump is responsible for homelessness increasing right now. Trump is responsible for withholding already allocated funding to American families and US allies. Trump is responsible for ordering US officials to violate court orders because he wanted to harm children anyways. Trump is responsible for neglecting his presidential duties for personal financial gain. Trump is responsible for repeatedly leaking classified information and putting people in harms way by doing so. Trump is responsible for blatantly violating the emoluments clause. Trump is responsible for gutting the EPA. This list just goes on and on tbh..There is nothing " rational" about not holding Trump responsible for every single thing he has done since he has taken office.
We have all of his " Best people" telling us he is unstable, dangerous and unfit for office, yes, we really should listen to what they have to say regardless of how we feel about their political stance. These are the people who know him best telling us this now.
Is it not, when Shakespeare's greatest contribution to literature and drama was being among its democratizers? And, the co-option of his work by elitists, through the untrue assertion age is equivalent to quality and sophistication, erects a deliberately-constructed barrier to understanding that contribution? A 400-year-old dick joke is still a dick joke, no matter how badly today's wealthy and educated want to pretend the 400-year-old dick joke is somehow culturally and intellectually superior.
No finer description of those who say "Do U wNaT tRUMP 2 WiN?" have I ever heard.
Apparently, some people in this thread don't believe that rats abandon a sinking ship. Either that or they think that Biden being friends with the Clintons is a far worse transgression than everything you've laid at Trump's feet.
Everyone can write a book.
To fund a foundation you need some tangible aim beyond twitter zingers.
In this case it seems to come down to "Remember how great GOP was before Trump? Let's go back!"
The two are linked. People are so irrationally angry and credulous right now they're willing to throw money at anyone willing to say "orange man bad", regardless who they are or how awful they may be. The "tangible aim" is making money, and sadly, the bar for that is Twitter zingers.
Not really. Shakespeare's great contribution to literature is that he wrote lots of plays that people think are really good. And some not so good ones that also get staged because they piggy-back off the reputation of the better ones.
I don't think Shakespeare is particularly renowned for his dick jokes, though. Firstly, they are at best a small proportion of his output - not least because it seems to me an awful lot of Shakespeare's highest regarded plays (e.g. Hamlet, Othello, Henry V, King Lear) are poorly described as masterpieces of sexual comedy. Secondly because if I wanted old-school dick jokes, I'd dig out my Aristophanes long before I went to Shakespeare.
I can't remember what it was called, what was the medieval story where a penis (Not attached to anyone) is put on trial and then gets let off because it "honorably rose" at the sight of the lady who was wronged by it?
Let's be saying the quiet parts out loud, shall we? By "wrote" you mean "...in Elizabethan vernacular", and "people" you mean "English commoners, while playing a lifelong game of cat-and-mouse that extended as far as outright sedition against the throne".
How convenient is it the four exact plays that are "poorly described as masterpieces of sexual comedy", are the ones with his most famous sexual jokes. Particularly those Bowlderized by means of simply failing to explain them.
Shakespeare wasn't producing plays to commoners any more than other playwrights of the time. Also, please note that whilst Shakespeare was well respected, but not that highly regarded in his day. His reputation was higher amongst fellow writers, and became truly acclaimed generally over a century later.
Some overenthusiastic autobiographers may have tried to sell books on the back of highly speculative theories and rumours, but the actual historical record suggests no such thing.
They have innuendo. I'm not sure they're jokes.
Damnit, Agema. You're supposed to be the most well read person on the forums! How do you not know the name of my vaguely described penis story from hundreds of years ago?!
Ask yourself who closed down the economy because of a viral pneumonia. It was a difficult decision - lower casualties from the virus until it goes away, and doom the nation to an economic collapse - or sustain the casualties and soldier on. If you compare between countries that went on a whole shut-down and those that didn't, you wouldn't see much of a difference. Face-masks are nice but they are currently the only viable solution - very far from an effective solution.
You, then: "people thought his plays were really good".
You, now: "...but not that many people, until a century later".
You have a very strange definition of "speculation" if you think the existence of Thomas Bowdler and Robert Devereaux can be defined as it.
And? Lots of artists gain their highest recognition after their time.
You have a very strange idea of logic if you think the mere existence of Robert Devereux indicates Shakespeare was involved in sedition against the reigning monarch.
Becomes a whole lot less strange when Devereux and his supporters commissioned a performance of "Richard II" for the evening of their rebellion, one including the censored deposition scene. And, the commissioners of that performance had been imprisoned and/or hanged, drawn, and quartered, including some who had been patrons of Shakespeare at the time he wrote the play.
As I said earlier: for an aristocratic, dilettante autobiographer who needs a hook to make a humdrum autobiography more exciting to improve sales, spinning this sort of yarn is handy. As historical scholarship, it's as compelling as a wet fart: it's closer to the level of arguing that Denver Airport is the home to one of the Illuminati.