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If being incompetent produces indistinguishable results from being heinous, and he has apologized for neither, why forgive him?
Who is asking you to forgive him? Be specific.
Who ever said I even believe in forgiveness? That is an American Christian thing isn't it? Why would you make the assumption that anyone should forgive him? Bush being stupid STILL doesn't make him as bad as Trump being Stupid, incompetent, AND heinous along with too many other terrible things to list here...

AND BTW, the actual Bible never had Jesus ask for forgiveness on the cross.. that was added for flair later and didn't even exist in the earlier versions. All those " Jesus died for your sins" Pseudo Christians in the US don't even know what they are talking about.
 
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Who ever said I even believe in forgiveness? That is an American Christian thing isn't it? Why would you make the assumption that anyone should forgive him? Bush being stupid STILL doesn't make him as bad as Trump being Stupid, incompetent, AND heinous along with too many other terrible things to list here...
People with black-and-white world views tend to see anyone not being as explicitly outraged by something as them to be an implicit endorsement. It's how they compensate for being miserable all the time. This way, everything is everybody else's fault.
 
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Ah, so you're going with the classic defense of assholes everywhere: "That's just who I am and you're too PC to handle it."

Okay. Just don't complain when we treat you like what you admit to being. Because we totally will.
I didn’t say PC, nor have I said anything that isn’t PC. I said that I don’t care if you’re mad at me for pointing out actually true things.
 
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Who ever said I even believe in forgiveness? That is an American Christian thing isn't it? Why would you make the assumption that anyone should forgive him? Bush being stupid STILL doesn't make him as bad as Trump being Stupid, incompetent, AND heinous along with too many other terrible things to list here...

AND BTW, the actual Bible never had Jesus ask for forgiveness on the cross.. that was added for flair later and didn't even exist in the earlier versions. All those " Jesus died for your sins" Pseudo Christians in the US don't even know what they are talking about.
If two men stab you and one of them does a dumb cowboy impression while he does it, they both stabbed you.
 
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I didn’t say PC, nor have I said anything that isn’t PC. I said that I don’t care if you’re mad at me for pointing out actually true things.
Yes, exactly. You believe that speaking "truth" however it's defined gives you the right to treat other people like shit. And you embrace that assholism because you can't stomach the idea that being an asshole is why nobody is interested in hearing "truth" from you and would much rather get it from non-abusive sources. In the age of the internet, we can do that. We can access information without first having to be some childish fool's verbal punching bag.
 
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Yes, exactly. You believe that speaking "truth" however it's defined gives you the right to treat other people like shit. And you embrace that assholism because you can't stomach the idea that being an asshole is why nobody is interested in hearing "truth" from you and would much rather get it from non-abusive sources. In the age of the internet, we can do that. We can access information without first having to be some childish fool's verbal punching bag.
No.
 
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Does my speaking truth upset you? Are you really that offended that I pointed out people can get information form sources other than pissy internet randos? Too bad.
No, as in none of what you said is vaguely accurate.
 

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Okay, so why do you treat people like shit? Why do you think that's okay?
Because it’s more fun this way and because I don’t think delivering information in a way that’s comfortable does anything to resolve problems. I won’t be your midnight infomercial on the starving children in Africa.
 
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Because it’s more fun this way and because I don’t think delivering information in a way that’s comfortable does anything to resolve problems. I won’t be your midnight infomercial on the starving children in Africa.
Okay, don't tell me the real reason. That's your prerogative. And by the same token I won't be your punching bag to take out all your unprocessed impotent rage and frustration on. So if you don't have anything constructive to say me, or at least anything that isn't soaking in arrogance, keep it to yourself.
 

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Okay, don't tell me the real reason. That's your prerogative. And by the same token I won't be your punching bag to take out all your unprocessed impotent rage and frustration on. So if you don't have anything constructive to say me, or at least anything that isn't soaking in arrogance, keep it to yourself.
So what’s the real reason? Because I’m pretty sure I told you what I think it is.
 
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So what’s the real reason? Because I’m pretty sure I told you what I think it is.
Fuck if I know. I just know better than to take self-professed assholes at their word when they talk about themselves. They never give the full truth.
 

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Fuck if I know. I just know better than to take self-professed assholes at their word when they talk about themselves. They never give the full truth.
I admitted to being an obnoxious boor, not an asshole.
Edit: also, why did you even ask then? Seems pointless.
 
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I admitted to being an obnoxious boor, not an asshole.
Functionally they're the same thing. They both describe a person who puts their ego and personal grievances ahead of other social considerations and feels justified in mistreating people. You talk shit, you don't get to complain when people call you a shit-talker.

Edit: also, why did you even ask then? Seems pointless.
I was trying to be polite. One of us had to.
 

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Functionally they're the same thing. They both describe a person who puts their ego and personal grievances ahead of other social considerations and feels justified in mistreating people.
Like you.
 

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Functionally they're the same thing. They both describe a person who puts their ego and personal grievances ahead of other social considerations and feels justified in mistreating people.
I do put those ahead of social considerations I suppose, though not as justification for genuine mistreatment.